[News] Coaching Search Rumor Mill

[Ravenslifer]

no, im talking about a SB, people dont care about pro bowl

 

Well I think we're both talking about the improvement of Joe as a QB, and Kubiak has a track record - it's not his fault at all that Shaub seems to consistently throw redzone INTs when the game's on the line.  And as a QB coach/OC he lead Steve Young to what's considered the greatest QB performance in Superbowl history and John Elway, noted for his failures in clutch Superbowl situations in the 80s, to a great performance against Atlanta in his last Superbowl.

[Bravens292]

I'm hearing a bunch of talk on ESPN and the comments about Norv following Zimmer to Minnesota. Has he worked with Zimmer before or just wishful thinking like us?

[Geving]

Norv Turner is overrated if you ask me. The only success he had as an OC were with Dallas in the 90s when he had three of the best skill position players of all time in Aikmen, Irvin, and Smith. Not to mention the fortress of a line. Since then, he hasn't had success. That may have to do with personnel but who can tell?

 

Why don't you want Kubiak? He made Schaub look like a top five passer at times.

Because he seems inept to in-game adjustments. His playcalling is extremely conservative and at times very predictable. If you think Cam was vanilla, then watch Kubes playcalling. Flacco's biggest attribute is his arm strength. Norv can put that to use in his playcalling. 

Kubes would destroy that attribute. I know Schaub has a noodlearm, but I know Houston fans have been calling for Kubes head for years. And I watched them a lot since I have a lot of friends that are Texans fans.

[PolishRifle]

Because he seems inept to in-game adjustments. His playcalling is extremely conservative and at times very predictable. If you think Cam was vanilla, then watch Kubes playcalling. Flacco's biggest attribute is his arm strength. Norv can put that to use in his playcalling. 

Kubes would destroy that attribute. I know Schaub has a noodlearm, but I know Houston fans have been calling for Kubes head for years. And I watched them a lot since I have a lot of friends that are Texans fans.

 

Kubiak's playbook has only the play-action pass in it. That's it.

[FastEddie]

I'm open to any name honestly as long as they throw the organizational playbook on the shelf for a while...I think most of our competition have a copy lol.

[omar586]

Well I think we're both talking about the improvement of Joe as a QB, and Kubiak has a track record - it's not his fault at all that Shaub seems to consistently throw redzone INTs when the game's on the line.  And as a QB coach/OC he lead Steve Young to what's considered the greatest QB performance in Superbowl history and John Elway, noted for his failures in clutch Superbowl situations in the 80s, to a great performance against Atlanta in his last Superbowl.

i would rather have an offense that can takes to a SB, than a QB that throws for 4k yards every year and never makes to the playoffs or SB. aka matt ryan...

[izvoodoo]

i would rather have an offense that can takes to a SB, than a QB that throws for 4k yards every year and never makes to the playoffs or SB. aka matt ryan...

That's really no Ryan's fault.  They have a lot of offensive weapons and simply not enough playmakers on defense.

[Ravenslifer]

Don't know if anyone posted this yet, but Aaron Wilson tweeted that Rich Gannon believes a lot of people would be interested in the Baltimore OC job.  Hopefully competition leads to a very good one coming here.

[jazz1988]

Because he seems inept to in-game adjustments. His playcalling is extremely conservative and at times very predictable. If you think Cam was vanilla, then watch Kubes playcalling. Flacco's biggest attribute is his arm strength. Norv can put that to use in his playcalling. 

Kubes would destroy that attribute. I know Schaub has a noodlearm, but I know Houston fans have been calling for Kubes head for years. And I watched them a lot since I have a lot of friends that are Texans fans.

 

Funny cause what  you said about Kubiak is the samething that has been said about Norv. I"m pretty tired of Flacco been labeled as a quarterback that can only throw it deep and honestly just because Kubiak runs a west coast offense doesn't mean he wont be able  to take advantage of Flacco so called biggest attributes aka his arm strength. 

 

When Norv was the head coach of the chargers there were fans calling for  his head and best believe they didnt care too much about his play calling either.

[FerrariFan87]

Look what Kubiak did with an undrafted FA RB in Arian Foster... and Matt Schaub before, well, this season... and Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels, etc.

 

I'd looooooove to see him calling plays.

[jazz1988]

Kubiak's playbook has only the play-action pass in it. That's it.

 

Come on that can't be totally true and honestly whats wrong with play action when you have one of the best running backs in the league. I know you like Norv but overall he's really no different from Cam Cameron it will basically be the same offense  just  with some wrinkles . Fans will still be screaming out wheres the slants and short passes ,Torrey Smith/other receiver will still be running deep as usual, there will still be more  isolation routes as usual,   and Flacco won't be giving more control of the offense( Rivers definitely didn't when Norv was the offensive coordinator ),.

 

 Overall if the Ravens do hired Norv thats cool but I think its time to move away from the Air Corydell

[Robbo15]

Aww nawww helll naww we Need Norv gary wouldn't help joe out one bit

[Robbo15]

I'm crossing my fingers for Norv.

Please god, I hope we aren't promoting someone from the inside or are getting Kubes.

im with you

[PolishRifle]

Aww nawww helll naww we Need Norv gary wouldn't help joe out one bit

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 14m

League source confirms Vikings granted permission to interview Browns' Norv Turner for offensive coordinator vacancy in Minnesota

[Robbo15]

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 14m but would they let us interview him ?

League source confirms Vikings granted permission to interview Browns' Norv Turner for offensive coordinator vacancy in Minnesota

[izvoodoo]

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 14m

League source confirms Vikings granted permission to interview Browns' Norv Turner for offensive coordinator vacancy in Minnesota

Doubt browns would let him interview in the division.

[gabefergy]

Doubt browns would let him interview in the division.

I saw it somewhere that Browns are letting their assistants interview anywhere.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

Ravens haven't asked to interview Norv yet.

 

Either him or Kubiak would be fantastic. Both have fielded multiple top offenses. 

[RavensFanInCA]

Just got a notification saying we have a profile in mind. That doesn't say very much, but we'll see what happens I guess.

Here's the corresponding article: http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/John-Harbaughs-Statement-On-Offensive-Coordinator-Search/cdfa178c-f2f3-49bc-92df-f3b128727107

[JEEPercreepermd]

Flacco bashers need to give him a break. He is not the reason we called a predictable offensive game all season. Joe also probably didnt enjoy getting knocked down every time he dropped back to pass.Give him credit for not calling out his o-line that was the worst in the league !

You'll never get that through the heads of anyone here.

There are a few here who want to pin it directly on Joe, and their only argument as to why.

[Bravens292]

according to Aaron Wilson, Harbs said he will interview people outside the building so don't expect Hostler or Castillo yet.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

my concern with a lot of the names being popularly mentioned like kubiak and norv, is that these guys may want to bring in "their guys" as position coaches which would mean a massive overhaul. I think most fans are on board with that idea.

But Castillo and Hostler seem safe to me from the organizations standpoint. A new coordinator coming in may not want to be handcuffed to those 2... which could prompt the organization to side with "our guys" and promote from within to avoid that overhaul.

As much as I hate to say it, I think its more likely hostler or Castillo gets the job, as the FO would rather sprinkle in a new position coach here or there than to cut bait with those 2 to accommodate a new coordinator coming in.

[gabefergy]

my concern with a lot of the names being popularly mentioned like kubiak and norv, is that these guys may want to bring in "their guys" as position coaches which would mean a massive overhaul. I think most fans are on board with that idea.

But Castillo and Hostler seem safe to me from the organizations standpoint. A new coordinator coming in may not want to be handcuffed to those 2... which could prompt the organization to side with "our guys" and promote from within to avoid that overhaul.

As much as I hate to say it, I think its more likely hostler or Castillo gets the job, as the FO would rather sprinkle in a new position coach here or there than to cut bait with those 2 to accommodate a new coordinator coming in.

Generally position coaches are hired by the HC not a coordinator.

[Free Agent]

The more I think about it, the more I think Norv would be a perfect fit.

[izvoodoo]

I saw it somewhere that Browns are letting their assistants interview anywhere.

I really think Norv Turner would be my choice for OC.  I'm just a fan, but Norv's playing calling demands seem to meet the criteria for our players.

[AsianRice]

The more I think about it, the more I think Norv would be a perfect fit.

Norv is the master of Cameron, and if Cam's system can get us a 2013 SB, improved Norv's system can flourish our offense...

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Generally position coaches are hired by the HC not a coordinator.

I understand that, but with both Kubiak and Turner being former head coaches, established, and I think both wanting to get back to the head coaching ranks, they may not want to take the job where they have to be handcuffed to those 2.

I mean quite frankly, if my goal was to be a head coach I wouldn't want that goal to be dependent on Castillo an Hostler succeeding in their roles. Id stand firm on both being out.

[Sizzlebshu]

Generally position coaches are hired by the HC not a coordinator.

Just curious who would your choice for OC be? I have a name in mind, but I wana see what you're thinking

[gabefergy]

Just curious who would your choice for OC be? I have a name in mind, but I wana see what you're thinking

I don't know. I'd probably lean towards Norv. I like him as a play caller and even though he is still a student of Don Coryell, I think he is less single minded about the plays he calls than Cam was.

[Sizzlebshu]

I don't know. I'd probably lean towards Norv. I like him as a play caller and even though he is still a student of Don Coryell, I think he is less single minded about the plays he calls than Cam was.

Hmm we aren't thinking the same way. Not that that is a bad thing. I was leaning more toward Shanahan.