DB coach Teryl Austin now Detriot Lions DC

[TXRavensFan]

Okay back on topic, losing a great coach like Austin will show up in Pees defense. Mark my words. If you don't wanna promote your best coaches you are going backwards as an organization.

Who would you consider a better coach, Austin or Pagano?

[ravens_4life]

Austin lions new dc. announced on Sirius nfl.

[HoldingCall]

Webby?  He was a shell of his former self this year. Not blaming Austin, just sayin'.

It's not unusual considering the type of injury and amount of layoff time he's recovering from. Due to the recovery and inactivity associated with his type of injury, most if not all were aware that Webb would be tested this year. 

[ShapeShiftnTrick]

I'm glad for him. He's a great coach, and he could do wonders with that defense they have there.

[jazz1988]

Okay back on topic, losing a great coach like Austin will show up in Pees defense. Mark my words.  If you don't wanna promote your best coaches you are going backwards as an organization.

 

I think it's silly to not realize that all nfl teams lose great to good position coaches and you can't really keep them all . To my understanding Austin has never been a defensive coordintor in the nfl  and if he does become the defensive coordinator with The lions well I wish him much success.  I think the Ravens will be able to  find suitable replacement and they probably could hired former texans secondary coach Vance Joseph(Texans pass defense was ranked 5th in the league last year)

[2legit2quit]

I think our players make up for Pees shortcomings as a DC. Think about how stacked our defense was last year, I was expecting us to be top 5 (this is opinion of course).

I think in some cases coaches get too much credit when a unit plays well (Pees) and some get slammed to harshly when one fails (Castillo). Sometimes you have to think about what they have to work with.

Now I'm not saying coaches don't have an affect because I really believe if Pagano was DC last season were a top 5 D. I also believe that there's not a oline coach in the league who could've made lemons out of lemonade with Shipley, Gradkowski, and Oher stinking up the oline.

I would like a new DC because when I can see what our defense is doing when they line up I don't like it. I think other teams can see that too and sometimes our players are good enough to stop them anyway, that's just my opinion though.

Austin will be missed, hopefully we find someone good to fill his spot. As far as the whole Pees situation, I try not to be a complainer so if he stays I'm cool with it I'm just not a fan of him.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Congrats to Teryl Austin. He deserves it.

Just wish it would have been an in house promotion and not going elsewhere.

[Tank 92]

It's not unusual considering the type of injury and amount of layoff time he's recovering from. Due to the recovery and inactivity associated with his type of injury, most if not all were aware that Webb would be tested this year. 

 

Right. 

[Guest RBates]

Who would you consider a better coach, Austin or Pagano?

Wow its close, but i have to go with Pagano. I wanted him to be our Head coach. 

[Guest RBates]

I think it's silly to not realize that all nfl teams lose great to good position coaches and you can't really keep them all . To my understanding Austin has never been a defensive coordintor in the nfl  and if he does become the defensive coordinator with The lions well I wish him much success.  I think the Ravens will be able to  find suitable replacement and they probably could hired former texans secondary coach Vance Joseph(Texans pass defense was ranked 5th in the league last year)

Finding a guy like Austin that actually made the db's better is hard.  Texans pass defense can be accredited to their pass rush  Not necessarily the play of the defensive backs. We have witnessed continuous improvement in our db's, year in and out.  Last year it was Corey Graham this year Jimmy Smith.  

 

 

Austin will be missed and should have got an opportunity here.  It's not like Pees's defense is playing lights out.

[TXRavensFan]

Wow its close, but i have to go with Pagano. I wanted him to be our Head coach.

We seem to have done ok when we promoted him, then ultimately left. I think we'll be ok if Austin leaves - the LFW article today reports that the news of Austin being hired by the Lions last night was picked up from a fake Twitter feed, although they do appear to be close to a deal.

[Guest RBates]

We seem to have done ok when we promoted him, then ultimately left. I think we'll be ok if Austin leaves - the LFW article today reports that the news of Austin being hired by the Lions last night was picked up from a fake Twitter feed, although they do appear to be close to a deal.

Pagano had no where to be promoted to.  From defensive coordinator to John's job would have been his only move.  Pees implements the bend but don't break kinda philosophy.  I want someone that takes chances and can change the game on defense.  

 

Austin may or may not have been that guy. But Pees is stale in his play calling and his defense is boring.  They don't scare anybody. Minnesota with Matt Cassell balled on them.

[Militant X 1]

Pagano had no where to be promoted to.  From defensive coordinator to John's job would have been his only move.  Pees implements the bend but don't break kinda philosophy.  I want someone that takes chances and can change the game on defense.  

 

Austin may or may not have been that guy. But Pees is stale in his play calling and his defense is boring.  They don't scare anybody. Minnesota with Matt Cassell balled on them.

 

I agree!

 

#Mili

[jazz1988]

Finding a guy like Austin that actually made the db's better is hard.  Texans pass defense can be accredited to their pass rush  Not necessarily the play of the defensive backs. We have witnessed continuous improvement in our db's, year in and out.  Last year it was Corey Graham this year Jimmy Smith.  

 

 

Austin will be missed and should have got an opportunity here.  It's not like Pees's defense is playing lights out.

  Considering that the Ravens have  a good history of finding good defensive coaches i doubt that.  What makes you think Austin would be better then Pees? What makes you think he will be a good defensive coordinator in the nfl?

[HoldingCall]

OC Pees: There were individual plays I disagreed with but all in all I was not disappointed. Reason! Pees had to replace on field general Ray Lewis, top level LB Ellerbe, and Lieutenant Ed Reed. Not to overlook McClain being out for most of the season, I have to give Pees a pass.

 

Considering the level of players he had to replace, Pees did a good job. I would hesitate to tamper there without good reason.

[Tru11]

Pagano had no where to be promoted to.  From defensive coordinator to John's job would have been his only move.  Pees implements the bend but don't break kinda philosophy.  I want someone that takes chances and can change the game on defense.  

 

Austin may or may not have been that guy. But Pees is stale in his play calling and his defense is boring.  They don't scare anybody. Minnesota with Matt Cassell balled on them.

 

when you take chances you also increase the risk.

 

with the offense showing no sign of making things happen, what makes you think they would do anything if the defense made a mistake lol.

 

when you have  something to fall back on then you can take risk.......

when you know points come at a premium you best bet is to play it safe and maybe due to the more snaps perhaps get a turnover lol.

[BmoreBird22]

Just floating this idea out there, but has anyone wondered if Pees bend but don't break defense is in response to the offense? I'm not one to blame the offense for a winded defense, but I would be one to consider that the lack of Ravens scoring points could have limited the amount of chances that the defense could take. Let's say they throw in the kitchen sink, but get burned for a score. That's a lot more devastating then playing it extremely safe and having to make a goal line stand. 

Pees wasn't terrible in New England, when you look at the stats. (I don't watch New England much, so I can't say how he did philosophy wise), but maybe getting a new offensive coordinator who can help take the offense to a next level will allow the defense to take more chances.

Back on subject, good luck to Teryl Austin. He did a great job developing young defensive backs and given the state of the Lions defensive backs, they could use the help. I see them taking Darqueze Dennard and him developing into an All-Pro under Austin.

[Guest RBates]

  Considering that the Ravens have  a good history of finding good defensive coaches i doubt that.  What makes you think Austin would be better then Pees? What makes you think he will be a good defensive coordinator in the nfl?

Because its obvious he is a good coach.  Look at our Db's over his tenure here.  Now can he coach a whole defense?  Who knows?  But he is one of those guys that i would have like to take a chance on.  Pees brings nothing to the table and Spags taking over for Austin is a joke. 

[Guest RBates]

when you take chances you also increase the risk.

 

with the offense showing no sign of making things happen, what makes you think they would do anything if the defense made a mistake lol.

 

when you have  something to fall back on then you can take risk.......

when you know points come at a premium you best bet is to play it safe and maybe due to the more snaps perhaps get a turnover lol.

if you play defense like this you will not be feared.  what im saying is i want our defense to be our offense some days.I haven't seen a game under Pees where it looked like that.

 

Austin is young and innovative.  Now we just have 2nd chance coaches.  The only one good on our staff is the linebackers coach.  

[Tru11]

if you play defense like this you will not be feared.  what im saying is i want our defense to be our offense some days.I haven't seen a game under Pees where it looked like that.

 

Austin is young and innovative.  Now we just have 2nd chance coaches.  The only one good on our staff is the linebackers coach.  

 

yeah i know and i loves for the defense to create chaos as well but this past season it was probaly bettert to be safe then sorry.

 

previous ravens teams could at least run the ball but this was the worst offense ive seen as a ravens fan lol

[Militant X 1]

Because its obvious he is a good coach.  Look at our Db's over his tenure here.  Now can he coach a whole defense?  Who knows?  But he is one of those guys that i would have like to take a chance on.  Pees brings nothing to the table and Spags taking over for Austin is a joke. 

 

Agreed!  I would have loved to hear the news that Austin would be the Ravens new DC.  Now he's off to Detroit and I believe that he will do well.  He has an entire off season to get prepared.

 

if you play defense like this you will not be feared.  what im saying is i want our defense to be our offense some days.I haven't seen a game under Pees where it looked like that.

 

Austin is young and innovative.  Now we just have 2nd chance coaches.  The only one good on our staff is the linebackers coach.  

 

Ain't that the truth?  I hate watching a passive defense man.  Smh!

 

#Mili

[The Raven]

if you play defense like this you will not be feared.  what im saying is i want our defense to be our offense some days.I haven't seen a game under Pees where it looked like that.

 

Austin is young and innovative.  Now we just have 2nd chance coaches.  The only one good on our staff is the linebackers coach.  

 

Austin is young and innovative? You talking out of your bum again? He's nearing 50 and he's never done anything to suggest he's innovative. Guess you just have another boyfriend to go with Tyrod

[GTRavens]

Austin is young and innovative? You talking out of your bum again? He's nearing 50 and he's never done anything to suggest he's innovative. Guess you just have another boyfriend to go with Tyrod

"Young and innovative" is an extremely dumb cliché that people use to describe a vague, ambiguous idea of an ideal coach who doesn't actually exist. People love to use it when they complain about the current coach not blitzing/running some kind of wild spread on every play.

[Guest RBates]

Austin is young and innovative? You talking out of your bum again? He's nearing 50 and he's never done anything to suggest he's innovative. Guess you just have another boyfriend to go with Tyrod

So as far as I'm concerned 48 is not old as a coach.  Its young for some and old for others.  

 

The guy has done absolutely nothing in his career to suggest that he knows how to coach except as a position coach he made the position he coached one of the best units on the team.  

 

Where do these guys that claim to know football come from?  This is the same guy that ragged on the Virginia QB's yet here we are with one in the Super -Bowl.

 

Im dropping the mic and setting the stage on fire>   WOOOOF

[The Raven]

So as far as I'm concerned 48 is not old as a coach.  Its young for some and old for others.  

 

The guy has done absolutely nothing in his career to suggest that he knows how to coach except as a position coach he made the position he coached one of the best units on the team.  

 

Where do these guys that claim to know football come from?  This is the same guy that ragged on the Virginia QB's yet here we are with one in the Super -Bowl.

 

Im dropping the mic and setting the stage on fire>   WOOOOF

 

Never said he was old but he's not young.

 

That makes him innovative? Teaching technique makes him innovative? Wow!

 

I only rag on bad Virginia QBs, and mainly just to spite you. Was that not obvious?

 

Only thing you set on fire is my brain, lol.

[Guest RBates]

Never said he was old but he's not young.

 

That makes him innovative? Teaching technique makes him innovative? Wow!

 

I only rag on bad Virginia QBs, and mainly just to spite you. Was that not obvious?

 

Only thing you set on fire is my brain, lol.

48 is young for some.  Obviously he fits that mold his age hardly shows when you look at him.

 

Spite me?  LMAO If you knew what you were talking about half the time you talked, you would have seen Russel Wilson, Cam or Kap going deep in the playoffs from the start of the season. Scrambling Qb's are no good.  LOL......  Flacco is the man.   

 

Austin is another person you have misjudged.  I'm telling you now, so you can remember who told you.  He can only teach technique because he is a position coach right?  If that's the case, why is Harbaugh our head coach?

[The Raven]

48 is young for some.  Obviously he fits that mold his age hardly shows when you look at him.

 

Spite me?  LMAO If you knew what you were talking about half the time you talked, you would have seen Russel Wilson, Cam or Kap going deep in the playoffs from the start of the season. Scrambling Qb's are no good.  LOL......  Flacco is the man.   

 

Austin is another person you have misjudged.  I'm telling you now, so you can remember who told you.  He can only teach technique because he is a position coach right?  If that's the case, why is Harbaugh our head coach?

 

Wilson is one of the few runners that can make plays with his arm. Cam and Kaep rode their run game and defense into the playoffs, sorry. 

 

It's funny how much you take out of context. 

 

On the comment about Harbaugh, I don't even know what your point is there. He does a lot of work with the DBs during camp and teaches technique as well, so there's that

[SecretAgentMan]

Wilson is one of the few runners that can make plays with his arm. Cam and Kaep rode their run game and defense into the playoffs, sorry. 

 

It's funny how much you take out of context. 

 

On the comment about Harbaugh, I don't even know what your point is there. He does a lot of work with the DBs during camp and teaches technique as well, so there's that

Wilson is a pass first QB who runs if he has to. His mobility is more of getting out of the pocket and throwing it off of a broken play(Baldwin last night is the perfect example). He's a good runner, but he's a pass first QB.....Why I like the guy. RGINT and Kaep are gimmick QBs. RGINT has the potential to grow into something more though, I don't think Kaep does. Not the thread for this though.

 

 

He hates Harbaugh for whatever reason. I hate losing Austin, but he's replaceable. Next man up

 

EDIT: He called him innovative? He's not that but he's a damn good DB coach. I'll miss the guy but their isn't a single innovative coach on our team

[Guest RBates]

Wilson is one of the few runners that can make plays with his arm. Cam and Kaep rode their run game and defense into the playoffs, sorry. 

 

It's funny how much you take out of context. 

 

On the comment about Harbaugh, I don't even know what your point is there. He does a lot of work with the DBs during camp and teaches technique as well, so there's that

You made it sound like he is not innovative because he only teaches technique.  He can be innovative at that alone.  I would say that he definitely knows what he is doing as a Db's coach, judging off of the steady improvement that our Db's have shown.  

 

Harbaugh comment= It's easy to say what someone can't do, until they are given an opportunity and they prove you wrong. 

[The Raven]

You made it sound like he is not innovative because he only teaches technique.  He can be innovative at that alone.  I would say that he definitely knows what he is doing as a Db's coach, judging off of the steady improvement that our Db's have shown.  

 

Harbaugh comment= It's easy to say what someone can't do, until they are given an opportunity and they prove you wrong. 

 

All I said is that Austin has never shown that he's innovative. I'm not saying he won't be, but he hasn't done anything to show that he is right now.