Biggest Loss From Our SB Roster

[The Raven]

..... and vice versa..........

 

Yep, fair point again. It doesn't matter either way though. I believe the game is won in the trenches, and following that, Birk is the biggest loss, not Boldin. If the line holds up, the Boldin loss isn't as bad. 

[wayne]

Even Harbaugh at the end of the season said we had no replacement for Anquan . Nothing like treating a guy who was a huge factor in us winning the Super Bowl and asking him to take a pay cut ! Let's say you just landed the biggest contract for your company that they ever had and they ask you in a few months to take a pay cut because we need some more employees in finance ? Laughably bad and Bisciotti knows it .

True. That had to be one of the worse moves of all time for the FO to let Boldin go for a 6th rd pick after he had a great showing in the playoffs. Like getting employee of the week only for the next week that your company tells you they cutting down your pay or else they have to let you go if you don't accept the pay cut.

[TSizzle00]

I will admit I underestimated losing Matt Birk cost on offense but also we had injuries and BOTH tackles stepped back in a big way. Had the Oline troubles not happen I swear we make the playoffs Boldin or not.

[wayne]

Birk would have probably made a slight difference but I wouldn't figure a washed up 38 year old Birk would have our O-line playing up to the expectations that some of you guys seemingly have on here. O-line played average in the last 4-5 games. Which we had game film so I could debunk this myth about our O-line sucking so bad in the pass blocking department.

[The Raven]

Birk would have probably made a slight difference but I wouldn't figure a washed up 38 year old Birk would have our O-line playing up to the expectations that some of you guys seemingly have on here. O-line played average in the last 4-5 games. Which we had game film so I could debunk this myth about our O-line sucking so bad in the pass blocking department.

 

Dude, I am quite aware that pass blocking was good in the second half of the season, outside of the Cincy game, because that was horrid. Run blocking was an issue all season. 

[wayne]

Dude, I am quite aware that pass blocking was good in the second half of the season, outside of the Cincy game, because that was horrid. Run blocking was an issue all season. 

Ok. So you saying what Im saying,lol. I agree to agree

[Tank 92]

Marlon Brown and Pitta would have easily made up his numbers. Marlon matched his TDs by himself. Doss shouldn't even be on the team in my opinion.

 

I agree. We wouldn't have missed Q if Pitta had not gone down.  The only reason Doss was brought back was the injuries we incurred.  He was sitting home watching TV, and probably will be doing the same next year.

 

 

 

But if we had a healthy Pitta all season, do you think that Boldin wouldn't have been missed as much?

 

 

Yes

[jimmypowder]

Boldin for a 6th rounder One of the worst trades in Ravens history !

[TSizzle00]

It's not just about making his numbers up though, it's obviously deeper than that. I hope I don't have to go into detail to explain it but I will.

 

I know its more than about numbers but people also tend to overrate "leadership" as if that's all that is needed to win a football game. Ravens had leaders and rah rah people in those losing seasons too. Ravens lost a lot of people from the SB team, they were bound to miss one or two of them. If we miss only 1/6 or something of that nature that is not too bad in a rebuilding year. I think we'll be alright going forward.

[The Raven]

We didn't trade Boldin for a 6th. We traded him for a 6th and $7.5 million in cap space. 

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="The Raven" post="1746829" timestamp="1389574158"] We didn't trade Boldin for a 6th. We traded him for a 6th and $7.5 million in cap space. [/quote] Ok that clarifies it . still a terrible trade considering we got players like Huff and Spears for it .

[TSizzle00]

I agree. We wouldn't have missed Q if Pitta had not gone down.  The only reason Doss was brought back was the injuries we incurred.  He was sitting home watching TV, and probably will be doing the same next year.

 

 

 

Yes

 

Boldin brought a strong short passing game to the Ravens. Ravens never anticipated Pittas injury and having the worse Ravens running game in the history of the franchise. I still believe these had a larger impact than simply not having Boldin.

[PurpleSnowman]

Birk is obviously the right choice. Our line is pathetic without his skill and leadership.

[The Raven]

Ok that clarifies it . still a terrible trade considering we got players like Huff and Spears for it .

 

And players like Dumervil and Canty....................

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="Tank 92" post="1746678" timestamp="1389571113"] I agree. We wouldn't have missed Q if Pitta had not gone down. The only reason Doss was brought back was the injuries we incurred. He was sitting home watching TV, and probably will be doing the same next year. Yes[/quote] It's ridiculous to think that if we had Pitta all season we would not have missed Anquan . Please take a look again at some of Q's plays in last year and this year's postseason . That's a Pro a Bowl caliber possession receiver .

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="The Raven" post="1746870" timestamp="1389574692"] And players like Dumervil and Canty....................[/quote] Not impressed with either . Doom is way overrated and disappeared in many games Name me one impact play that either made that made a difference in any game this year .

[The Mom Gene]

It's ridiculous to think that if we had Pitta all season we would not have missed Anquan . Please take a look again at some of Q's plays in last year and this year's postseason . That's a Pro a Bowl caliber possession receiver .

...who didn't play like a pro bowl caliber possession receiver for us last year...  not until the playoffs anyway.  His stats last year were mediocre at best.  The Niners used Q as their #1 receiver because of Crabtree being injured...  he was never our #1. 

 

Having Pitta around those first 14 games would have helped us immensely.  Expecting him to just fall back into place the last 3 was pushing it...  and even watching that was an improvement to the offense. 

 

It's tough sitting here at home and playing the "what if" game...  and reality is it doesn't really matter now does it.  What's done is done...  Can't go back, Can't change it.  We can only improve for next year.

[gabefergy]

Half of the people in this thread still don't know how to spell Boldin.

 

My vote was Birk, and I don't think it is very close. Our OL was a disaster and Gino was a big reason why.

[Sami84]

...who didn't play like a pro bowl caliber possession receiver for us last year...  not until the playoffs anyway.  His stats last year were mediocre at best.  The Niners used Q as their #1 receiver because of Crabtree being injured...  he was never our #1. 
 
Having Pitta around those first 14 games would have helped us immensely.  Expecting him to just fall back into place the last 3 was pushing it...  and even watching that was an improvement to the offense. 
 
It's tough sitting here at home and playing the "what if" game...  and reality is it doesn't really matter now does it.  What's done is done...  Can't go back, Can't change it.  We can only improve for next year.

Bs..he was our number 1 . Torrey is no boldin..can you quit it. He was our best.

[gabefergy]

Not impressed with either . Doom is way overrated and disappeared in many games Name me one impact play that either made that made a difference in any game this year .

Dumervil made a lot of impact plays. He was constantly putting pressure on the QB this season. He pretty much single-handedly stalled the Dolphins on a drive that could have won the game for them. 

[redrum52]

...who didn't play like a pro bowl caliber possession receiver for us last year...  not until the playoffs anyway.  His stats last year were mediocre at best.  The Niners used Q as their #1 receiver because of Crabtree being injured...  he was never our #1. 

 

Having Pitta around those first 14 games would have helped us immensely.  Expecting him to just fall back into place the last 3 was pushing it...  and even watching that was an improvement to the offense. 

 

It's tough sitting here at home and playing the "what if" game...  and reality is it doesn't really matter now does it.  What's done is done...  Can't go back, Can't change it.  We can only improve for next year.

That's funny cause I don't remember our qb lighting it up either last year until the post season either.  Boldin was one of the few wrs we had who could find holes or get open when needed.  He also brought a toughness to the offense.  Was a good run blocker as well and another reliable set of hands, something we didn't really have this season.

 

He also did play as our #1.  The good thing about him was he could play inside or out and excelled where ever he was put.

[redrum52]

Half of the people in this thread still don't know how to spell Boldin.

 

My vote was Birk, and I don't think it is very close. Our OL was a disaster and Gino was a big reason why.

You spelled it wrong, it's Bolden.

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="gabefergy" post="1746895" timestamp="1389575664"] Dumervil made a lot of impact plays. He was constantly putting pressure on the QB this season. He pretty much single-handedly stalled the Dolphins on a drive that could have won the game for them.[/quote] Any Strip fumbles, pick 6, fumble recovery ,interception , batted pass ? I don't recall .i think he had one strip . And did nothing the second half of the season . Nothing

[1/28/01]

And players like Dumervil and Canty....................

Still would have preferred Boldin and an extension.

[The Raven]

Still would have preferred Boldin and an extension.

 

At the time, it made sense, but looking back, I think I might have preferred Boldin. Hindsight

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="redrum52" post="1746896" timestamp="1389575694"] That's funny cause I don't remember our qb lighting it up either last year until the post season either. Boldin was one of the few wrs we had who could find holes or get open when needed. He also brought a toughness to the offense. Was a good run blocker as well and another reliable set of hands, something we didn't really have this season. He also did play as our #1. The good thing about him was he could play inside or out and excelled where ever he was put.[/quote] Remember Q's block on Ray Rice's 3 and 17 against San Diego ? Just wicked . No receiver on our team currently is capable of making that type of block .

[gabefergy]

Any Strip fumbles, pick 6, fumble recovery ,interception , batted pass ? I don't recall .i think he had one strip . And did nothing the second half of the season . Nothing

10 sacks, 11 hits, 40 hurries. That's pretty impactful. He only graded out as the 3rd best 3-4 OLB in the league, so I guess that's a bit disappointing.

[NFLfan123]

My vote goes to Birk.

 

OL was a joke all season long (outside of Monroe who did a great job)

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="gabefergy" post="1746923" timestamp="1389576688"] 10 sacks, 11 hits, 40 hurries. That's pretty impactful. He only graded out as the 3rd best 3-4 OLB in the league, so I guess that's a bit disappointing.[/quote] I'm talking about a impact play that changed a game . None that I recall

[gabefergy]

Still would have preferred Boldin and an extension.

Boldin for a year yes, an extension no. Boldin is not the future. He would have had another Boldin year and caught ~60 balls for ~1,000 yards and had some big games and clutch moments I am sure, but extending a 33 yr old WR that is on the decline is not a very smart move.