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Mcgahee Dissapointed On Himself

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McGahee basically said that he is not playing well and he thinks LeRon McClain and Ray Rice are both doing a good job and should continue to play. He also said that he played like "do-do", which made me laugh. :lol:

first of all, Im happy that McGahee is stating that he knows he's not doing as good as he can play. I now know that he is a bit less egoistic than I thought.

Second of all, Im also happy that he didn't go ahead and blame the coach and not himself. Looks like Harbaugh's policy is working on McGahee, who is blaming himself and saying that the team should go with who's hot, referring to Rice and LeRon.

Also, this might be a drive for McGahee to perform harder for this sunday's match vs the steelers. I think that he'll get this chance to bounce back and prove to himself and everybody that he can play.
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i want all 3 backs to play.. but want mcclain to start.... did yoou see how choice ran through pittsburg... that guy was like a cut rb... having rice/willis take the load of mcclain will help us out
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Stand up move! I hope he can pull it all back together, he really was a dynamic back. He should be fine!
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Tempting, but no. Something drastically needs to give him a boost. Somebody needs to light a fire under him. His drive, his spark, his determination to be the best RB EVER is dwindling, while our productivity as a team hangs in the balance. Whenever he has a good run, he negates it with a fumble. Willis, please bring back McGahee version .07
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[quote name='T-Sizzle55' post='102584' date='Dec 11 2008, 07:39 PM']Tempting, but no. Something drastically needs to give him a boost. Somebody needs to light a fire under him. His drive, his spark, his determination to be the best RB EVER is dwindling, while our productivity as a team hangs in the balance. Whenever he has a good run, he negates it with a fumble. Willis, please bring back McGahee version .07[/quote]
Well i mean mcgahee has shown signs of life this season, plus i think he's still a good receiving threat for Flacco on those screen passes and such.
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[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='102619' date='Dec 11 2008, 08:36 PM']then how comes he didnt practice today?[/quote]

He didn't practice for undisclosed family reasons. But would this explain for his lack of effort?
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[quote name='#1 D' post='102623' date='Dec 11 2008, 08:43 PM']He didn't practice for undisclosed family reasons. But would this explain for his lack of effort?[/quote]

It would to me. Practice is an important part of being good on the feild on Sundays. Especially since he's coming off injuries.
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People keep whining and [i]whining[/i] about him fumbling... making it sound like Willis is fumbling twice a game.

McGahee has 3 fumbles on 152 carries.
McClain has 3 fumbles on 162 carries.

Last year he had 4 fumbles on 294 carries... so I'm going out on a limb that this [b]banged[/b] up version of McGahee is the reason to why he plays the way he does. People need to chill out and see what he can do this upcoming offseason and evaluate how he plays next year. McClain and Rice are getting the job done now... and what the hell, so is Flacco. No need to **** and whine about Willis day in day out.
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[quote name='kze' post='102647' date='Dec 11 2008, 09:30 PM']People keep whining and [i]whining[/i] about him fumbling... making it sound like Willis is fumbling twice a game.

McGahee has 3 fumbles on 152 carries.
McClain has 3 fumbles on 162 carries.

Last year he had 4 fumbles on 294 carries... so I'm going out on a limb that this [b]banged[/b] up version of McGahee is the reason to why he plays the way he does. People need to chill out and see what he can do this upcoming offseason and evaluate how he plays next year. McClain and Rice are getting the job done now... and what the hell, so is Flacco. No need to **** and whine about Willis day in day out.[/quote]


in the words of Ray Lewis, "what about right now? tomorrow is too far away what about right now?"
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[quote name='ravensorioleshoyas522155' post='102649' date='Dec 11 2008, 10:33 PM']in the words of Ray Lewis, "what about right now? tomorrow is too far away what about right now?"[/quote]

Yea, Mcghaee is def. NOT giving us anything right now. If anything we almost would have had a shutout against the Skins is Mcgahee's fumble didnt result in a TD.

and about the MCCLAIN, MCGAHEE argument.

MCCLAIN is NOT A RB he is a FB .. and there IS a difference.
Mcgahee IS a RB therefore he should know when to protect the ball.

Both have fumbles, both have made mistakes.

But unlike Mcgahee, Mcclain tends to pull thru when we need him the most.
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[quote name='ravensorioleshoyas522155' post='102649' date='Dec 12 2008, 03:33 AM']in the words of Ray Lewis, "what about right now? tomorrow is too far away what about right now?"[/quote]


Sit him, let him rest. Give him time to realise what he's missing and give him a spark to play harder. I'm just tired of people backstabbing the only offense we had last year. He CAN play when healthy, but people are too quick to throw him under the bus due to one season. I don't hear Charger fans, Steeler fans, Rams fans etc complaining about their lead running back this year, even the way they are playing. Some fans need to relax a little, especially when our offense is functioning as good as it is doing right now.
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[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='102638' date='Dec 11 2008, 09:19 PM']It would to me. Practice is an important part of being good on the feild on Sundays. Especially since he's coming off injuries.[/quote]

True...Plexi Glass had the same "family issue" thing going on, but it was a lot worse.
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[quote name='kze' post='102657' date='Dec 11 2008, 09:40 PM']Sit him, let him rest. Give him time to realise what he's missing and give him a spark to play harder. I'm just tired of people backstabbing the only offense we had last year. He CAN play when healthy, but people are too quick to throw him under the bus due to one season. I don't hear Charger fans, Steeler fans, Rams fans etc complaining about their lead running back this year, even the way they are playing. Some fans need to relax a little, especially when our offense is functioning as good as it is doing right now.[/quote]


i dont get why people say all the offense we had last year did you forget about mason it was'nt just mcgahee it was him and mason last year but hes ok when healthy but not all that either way .
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[quote name='kze' post='102657' date='Dec 11 2008, 10:40 PM']Sit him, let him rest. Give him time to realise what he's missing and give him a spark to play harder. I'm just tired of people backstabbing the only offense we had last year. He CAN play when healthy, but people are too quick to throw him under the bus due to one season. I don't hear Charger fans, Steeler fans, Rams fans etc complaining about their lead running back this year, even the way they are playing. Some fans need to relax a little, especially when our offense is functioning as good as it is doing right now.[/quote]


Im not throwing him off the bus, I dont want to see him go next season if he WANTS to play for us. The thing thats been bugging me MOST about him is all these"injuries" funny, he had a "concussion" on Sunday but yet sat for 10 min. after the game talking to redskins players.. if you have a concussion shouldnt you be in the hospital? Im used to seeing PAASSIONATE players on our football feild.. I havent seen that in Mcgahee this season. But his injurys this year have caused him to NOT be the explosive back he was for us last year. Im sorry but as a Ravens fan I WANT whats best for my team and right now Mcgahee is NOT whats best for this team..
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[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='102662' date='Dec 12 2008, 03:44 AM']Im not throwing him off the bus, I dont want to see him go next season if he WANTS to play for us. The thing thats been bugging me MOST about him is all these"injuries" funny, he had a "concussion" on Sunday but yet sat for 10 min. after the game talking to redskins players.. if you have a concussion shouldnt you be in the hospital? Im used to seeing PAASSIONATE players on our football feild.. I havent seen that in Mcgahee this season. But his injurys this year have caused him to NOT be the explosive back he was for us last year. Im sorry but as a Ravens fan I WANT whats best for my team and right now Mcgahee is NOT whats best for this team..[/quote]


Understood. I never said I want to see him out there playing the way he is doing now either, have I? What I'm trying to get across is that he IS a good player when healthy, and that people should stop whining about releasing/trading him and what not. It's not uncommon for players to have bad seasons (especially RBs), so you know, see what he has to bring next year before completely abandoning a player with great potential.

Let me say this again, just to get my point across: he ISN'T performing at his top level, but I don't think people should turn their backs on him [i]right now[/i].

I'm out.
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[quote name='kze' post='102668' date='Dec 11 2008, 09:49 PM']Understood. I never said I want to see him out there playing the way he is doing now either, have I? What I'm trying to get across is that he IS a good player [i][b]when healthy[/b][/i], and that people should stop whining about releasing/trading him and what not. It's not uncommon for players to have bad seasons (especially RBs), so you know, see what he has to bring next year before completely abandoning a player with great potential.

Let me say this again, just to get my point across: he ISN'T performing at his top level, but I don't think people should turn their backs on him [i]right now[/i].

I'm out.[/quote]

Personally, I think that (bolded) is the problem. When is McGahee healthy? And why should we only expect top play from an athlete when 100 percent? Can you name one player on our roster that is 100 percent healthy? No, and I don't think that any other teams' fans could either. It's December, it's do or die time for ALL teams. Every player on every team is hurt in some way. And yet, they still manage to give it their all and LOOK like they're giving it their all. Freakin' Clinton Portis, although he was benched for most of the game versus the Ravens, has been hurt ALL year, with multiple, actual injuries. And yet he's still the number three back in the entire league....and he's playing for the 'Skins. What does that tell you?? That he has passion, he WANTS the ball, he WANTS to make a difference, he WANTS to be the best at his position, and his play CLEARLY shows this. McGahee? Not so much. The injuries B.S. is just that, B.S. Everyone is injured, but if they can get on the field and are allowed to, they are still doing whatever they can to help. He's (McGahee) just not doing that, and that's why fans are not believing in him. I think we'd all be more forgiving if he at least looked like he was trying, like earlier this year. But now..it's like he's given up.
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Hopefully he can put this slump of a year behind him and play these last 3 games like the Mcgahee we all knew last year, then continue into next year with the same mind set. However I believe last year should be his last straw if he messes it up to.

Ravens Girl: Depends on how serious the concussion is, However I do agree if it wasnt that serious he maybe could have played through it. My friend this year got a concussion on the last play of the game so bad that he didnt know what to do, and instead of lining up to shake hands and all he just started to sprint to the other teams sideline. It was odd, all he could remember was his last name, not his first. We were just talking about it yesterday, he doesnt remember it at all.
Crazy concussion if you ask me.
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[quote name='rlh445' post='102671' date='Dec 11 2008, 09:57 PM']Personally, I think that (bolded) is the problem. When is McGahee healthy? And why should we only expect top play from an athlete when 100 percent? Can you name one player on our roster that is 100 percent healthy? No, and I don't think that any other teams' fans could either. It's December, it's do or die time for ALL teams. Every player on every team is hurt in some way. And yet, they still manage to give it their all and LOOK like they're giving it their all. Freakin' [b]Clinton Portis[/b], although he was benched for most of the game versus the Ravens, [b]has been hurt ALL year, with multiple, [u]actual[/u] injuries[/b]. And yet he's still the number three back in the entire league....and he's playing for the 'Skins. What does that tell you?? That he has passion, he WANTS the ball, he WANTS to make a difference, he WANTS to be the best at his position, and his play CLEARLY shows this. McGahee? Not so much. The injuries B.S. is just that, B.S. Everyone is injured, but if they can get on the field and are allowed to, they are still doing whatever they can to help. He's (McGahee) just not doing that, and that's why fans are not believing in him. I think we'd all be more forgiving if he at least looked like he was trying, like earlier this year. But now..it's like he's given up.[/quote]

Beautiful post.. took the words RIGHT out of my mouth..
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Im just curious how all of us would feel if we DIDNT have mcclain and rice to back us up.. makes me wonder where we'd be & thats a scary thought.
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The running game has been down these past couple weeks and its obvious Mcgahee has been the key to the downfall. While we did get 140ish yards vs the skins, it all came at the end on that last drive. The offense isnt consistently picking up yards in the first half on the ground, and we cant make a deep playoff run (or probably beat the steelers) if we cant run the ball. McGahee is going to be the key to us making a playoff run because McClain can't do it all. Hes not a first half back, hes a bruiser at the end of the game that benefits from a tired defense and his size. We need mcgahee more than anyone right now to show up down the stretch, but lets not write him off just yet. I think last years willis is going to show up and its gunna be big for the offense when he does. Dont judge McGahee on a bad stretch of games and say hes lost it. Wait and see how he does down the stretch before we cut him for next season. Give him a chance to prove himself again.
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Don't throw Willis under the bus. That's a multitalented back with a wicked stiff arm, his problems aren't his body it's mostly mental, I think, at this point. He's faster and better than he's showing, we all know that. It's not just toughness, either. We gotta get the Sopranos psychiatrist on him, or something.

Anybody that saw that hit in the Bowl game vs. Ohio State and sees him playing today knows toughness isn't the problem. That was one
of the most sickening things I've ever seen, aieee.
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If McGahee can put his bad play behind him and have a solid game this Sunday it will go a long way to the Ravens controlling this game. If we can put pressure on their LBs and Safeties with routes from out of the backfield it will help keep them off balance. Maybe catch them in one of those blitzes and get Willis matched up one-on-one with a LB. I think a guy like Rice could have been huge in this game.

Having a healthy explosive McGahee with a powerful smash mouth combo of McClain and Lo Neal will help the Ravens ware down that Steelers front 7 and get those DBs lookin into the backfield.
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Dallas or even Jacksonville would probably be the game he "breaks" back out again. It's pretty tough sledding against, Foote, Farrior, Hampton, Polamalu, etc.

McClain will probably get more carries and end up with about 75 yards, Willis with about 40 and less mistakes. Parmesan or whatever his name is might get a few carries.

I didn't think Portis would get anything against us, and I feel the same way about Fast Willie. Moore is a little more of a threat at this point but, against us, more so with catches in the flat than runs. It would kick me in the head if the Steelers got more rushing yds. than the Ravens.

I'm thinking their 3rd down % on offense will be like 3/14 unless Ben is breakin tackles and throwin downfield to open receivers like crazy, which isn't like the Ravens of this year.

The important thing is how they're playing right now. I'd give the Ravens' D a 9.5 as of the last few games, and the offense a 7. Pittsburgh I'd give a 9.5 on D, and a 4 on offense. Special teams? It's a wash, I guess. With the Ravens at home, if the teams play at all like they should according to recent history, it's about a 23-13 Ravens win. It'll take special teams or defensive scores for the Steelers to win, methinks.
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[quote name='Macadamia' post='102643' date='Dec 11 2008, 09:25 PM']He's terrible. Please dump this head case next season.[/quote]Cutting or trading him would result in an $11 million dead money cap hit in 2009.
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i know alot of people around here want him gone but i think willis still has it. i think for now we should just let him rest for if we make the playoffs and only use him if the running game is struggling. because once he gets healthy willis is a top back in the league.
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[quote name='rlh445' post='102671' date='Dec 11 2008, 09:57 PM']The injuries B.S. is just that, B.S. Everyone is injured, but if they can get on the field and are allowed to, they are still doing whatever they can to help. He's (McGahee) just not doing that, and that's why fans are not believing in him. I think we'd all be more forgiving if he at least looked like he was trying, like earlier this year. But now..it's like he's given up.[/quote]


Did you not see him playing with blood trickling out of his eyes? No one can question his toughness. The man is a soldier, and for that he gets my respect.
I just think that the injuries have taken it's toll on him. His entire collegiate and professional career, he has been prone to getting hurt because of the way he plays. We knew that long before we traded for him; we knew what we were getting into. He most likely needs a few weeks off to recuperate, both mentally and physically.
When healthy, he's a huge part of this offense; I think next year he'll turn it around big time.
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I'm hoping Willis has a break out game shortly. I wish him the best. However if he has ANOTHER fumble that results in a TD i WILL be screaming TAKE WILLIS OUT!!!! thats just how fans are. they want whats best for the TEAM.
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