Ravens Season-Review Press Conference

[rmw10]

Well this thread has gone downhill quickly.

[runamuk]

The team missed out on the play-offs but last time I checked, 8-8 isn't a losing a season. There is nothing wrong with the ZBS. You might believe upgrading Gino won't change anything but that doesn't necessarily make it so. If Monroe returns, Osemele returns healthy and the team finds an upgrade over Oher at RT (not particularly difficult), the OL will rebound as a unit. 

 

Strictly looking at the WRs the team has drafted and pinning it on Ozzie is foolish. You don't develop WRs when your QB play is routinely in flux and you're mostly committed to pounding the rock and playing good defense. To your last point, I don't know where the team stated it would draft 5 starting lineman. Regardless, for as poorly at the unit played this season, they don't need massive overhaul to become a good unit again. 

I agree with the first part of your post I think we already have the rt on the roster. Jensen or wagner , I have only seen college video on Jensen but I think he is a good fit for zbs .  it does work well for other teams college ,high school and nfl we just need to get the line upgraded get them taught and pray no one gets hurt . I saw some promise at the end of last year.

 

 

I agree about the wr's I get the whole they need time to develop . but other teams find first round talent at wr and they contribute from day one. we don't need to trade every first round pick away , we don't need defensive weapons every single year. we paid joe 120 million then said have at it. we need an aj green a calvin Johnson, danny woodhead. name your favorite  wr.  even the browns pick better wideouts then we do so do the jags,,,ok that's a stretch. but you get the point and its vaild.

[arnie_uk]

Any where you can watch this rather than just listen?

[Ed_Reed20]

the guy that destroyed the offense last year is still in charge of the offense and has the blessing of the coaches general manager and the owner. I just finished watching the pressor. they are not making scheme changes they are upgrading the center spot . they changed the scheme knowing it could  destroy the season, and now they are recommitting to  the same scheme and person who destroyed the offense got joe hurt. and made below average players out of probowl backs. the only thing we disagree on is semantics. to you and others 8-8 is a winning season . to me playoffs is . the patriots are successful because they stick with what works they do not stick with what is a failure and there coach admits when he is wrong ours doesn't . the upside is how long can is possibly take  for a scheme to work. we had one bad season. maybe we just have one more or two....does anyone really know .

 

every wr we  draft winds up on ir til they develop . brown and smith exceptions over 20 not counting this upcoming draft

 

Castillo didn't destroy the offense. Numerous injuries to the offensive line, the departure of Q and absence of Pitta were much bigger issues. The ZBS didn't destroy the season. I never claimed 8-8 is a winning season. I simply disproved your point that it was a losing one.  

 

That isn't true at all. The last two late-round WRs in Streeter and Mellette wound up on IR because they weren't going to contribute on special teams. Doss was rarely active but he wouldn't have got much action anyway with how little Cam went three-wide. Regardless, he wasn't on IR. Reed wasn't on IR besides when he was obviously hurt. Marcus Smith was active for half the season and into the play-offs. Justin Harper was a stash. Yamon Figurs contributed mostly on special teams as a rookie. Demetrius Williams and Mark Clayton obviously weren't on IR as a rookies. Neither was Devard Darling. That's going all the way back to '04. So your point, besides making no sense, isn't true at all. 

[rmw10]

Any where you can watch this rather than just listen?

 

Saw that the full video is supposed to be up on the Ravens home page tonight.

[runamuk]

I know everyone is upset  and I know media folks are paid to prognosticate . Eisenberg stated "if Monroe is not signed Michael oher could be slated at LT. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Juan-Castillo-To-Be-Offensive-Line-Coach-Next-Year/85460a55-6cfb-4fee-a7c7-e4c043d1da03#commentSystem this on the main news feed . that can't be a serious option

[runamuk]

Castillo didn't destroy the offense. Numerous injuries to the offensive line, the departure of Q and absence of Pitta were much bigger issues. The ZBS didn't destroy the season. I never claimed 8-8 is a winning season. I simply disproved your point that it was a losing one.  

 

That isn't true at all. The last two late-round WRs in Streeter and Mellette wound up on IR because they weren't going to contribute on special teams. Doss was rarely active but he wouldn't have got much action anyway with how little Cam went three-wide. Regardless, he wasn't on IR. Reed wasn't on IR besides when he was obviously hurt. Marcus Smith was active for half the season and into the play-offs. Justin Harper was a stash. Yamon Figurs contributed mostly on special teams as a rookie. Demetrius Williams and Mark Clayton obviously weren't on IR as a rookies. Neither was Devard Darling. That's going all the way back to '04. So your point, besides making no sense, isn't true at all. 

I understand the point your making but that is a horrible list of wideouts

[redravenfan]

Castillo didn't destroy the offense. Numerous injuries to the offensive line, the departure of Q and absence of Pitta were much bigger issues. The ZBS didn't destroy the season. I never claimed 8-8 is a winning season. I simply disproved your point that it was a losing one.  

 

That isn't true at all. The last two late-round WRs in Streeter and Mellette wound up on IR because they weren't going to contribute on special teams. Doss was rarely active but he wouldn't have got much action anyway with how little Cam went three-wide. Regardless, he wasn't on IR. Reed wasn't on IR besides when he was obviously hurt. Marcus Smith was active for half the season and into the play-offs. Justin Harper was a stash. Yamon Figurs contributed mostly on special teams as a rookie. Demetrius Williams and Mark Clayton obviously weren't on IR as a rookies. Neither was Devard Darling. That's going all the way back to '04. So your point, besides making no sense, isn't true at all. 

one injury ko he was replaced with Shipley .Ok  semantics. every wideout either goes to ir or is not successful. you can't seriously look at that list and say that's a successful draft? that's a terrible list  doss is on joe that was his bad

[redravenfan]

I know everyone is upset  and I know media folks are paid to prognosticate . Eisenberg stated "if Monroe is not signed Michael oher could be slated at LT. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Juan-Castillo-To-Be-Offensive-Line-Coach-Next-Year/85460a55-6cfb-4fee-a7c7-e4c043d1da03#commentSystem this on the main news feed . that can't be a serious option

he'snot a functioning right tackle I don't evision this ever happening

[arnie_uk]

Saw that the full video is supposed to be up on the Ravens home page tonight.

doubt I'll be asleep by your night, already 9 here.

[Ed_Reed20]

one injury ko he was replaced with Shipley .Ok  semantics. every wideout either goes to ir or is not successful. you can't seriously look at that list and say that's a successful draft? that's a terrible list  doss is on joe that was his bad

 

Yanda played hurt the entire season as well. Two key injuries there, coupled with the loss of Birk and McKinnie regressing to his underwhelming ways were major issues. 

 

I've never claimed it was a good list. The team's history with WRs poor. It hasn't strictly been a talent evaluation issue though. I challenge you to name situations where WRs have developed despite mostly garbage QB play and run-first offensive philosophy. 

[Ravenseconbeast]

The kicker is why did Castillo not follow Andy?

Exactly man..that green drink must've worn off

[jimmypowder]

Exactly man..that green drink must've worn off

Clearly Andy didn't want him.

[AsianRice]

This press conference title should be Castillo is saved!........

[Willbacker]

The kicker is why did Castillo not follow Andy?

Andy did fire him in midseason. Kinda making him the scapegoat but Andy lost his job anyway.

[jazz1988]

The kicker is why did Castillo not follow Andy

 

 

Andy Fired Castillo why would he  want to be hired by Andy again? I think I did see that Chefs had some interest in Castillo but ultimately Castillo choose the Ravens out of all the other teams that were interested in him.

[Gordo52]

Just started watching. I think Ozzie has some bird poop on his shirt haha

[arnie_uk]

So the keys points are

1. Wr or tight end to convert third downs and get yac.
2. Interior oline
3. FS
4. Run better
5. Juan is oline coach, everything in flux, but they think wr coach is a very good one.
6. Expecting big step up from rookies, namely brown Elam, Williams and juice. Juice was praised a lot, said he's key. Spell end leach?
7. Suggs won't be playing at his cap number more or less. Well be extended, or released, Ozzie isn't a Virgin in regards releasing good players. Won't restructure, but will extend. Ngata maybe?

Think that's more or less it

[Willbacker]

So the keys points are

1. Wr or tight end to convert third downs and get yac.
 

Or must be changed to and.

[rmw10]

Or must be changed to and.

 

Nope.  Ozzie specifically said WR or TE.

[KnowNoLimits]

Starting to have resentment towards Flacco for breaking up the team. He's not worth what he's paid.

[RobFuseRaven]

in all fairness no oline replacing gino with a rookie . joe won't be throwing to anyone either .

 

I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying there are a lot of variables that can cause a wide receiver not to produce. We can all sit here and say that the Ravens have a history of drafting bust receivers. But that's just scratching the surface without looking at the rest of the team. You have to have a good QB, O-Line, OC, good coaching etc.

[redravenfan]

who are the available  free agent wide receivers and tight ends. no  point drafting anyone unless we trade up and get some one who can come in and contribute day one knowing ozzie hes trading back and we get defensive players instead.

[arnie_uk]

Nope.  Ozzie specifically said WR or TE.

what did he mean by we will have one by the end of the 2014 season? Are they signing someone who's injured and won't start the year, or someone suspended and will miss a few games? Blackmon? Or draft someone who won't start from day 1? Thought his wording was very precise harbs even said I hope we have him before then. Precise but weird.

[bravensfan52]

I wonder if Alex Mack really is on our radar 

 

 

 

what did he mean by we will have one by the end of the 2014 season? Are they signing someone who's injured and won't start the year, or someone suspended and will miss a few games? Blackmon? Or draft someone who won't start from day 1? Thought his wording was very precise harbs even said I hope we have him before then. Precise but weird.

 

Living in Jax I know the prescription of Blackmon is Monster talent with peanut butter between the ears. Even If he came here I dont think he could clean up. He needs serious help and atm only jail time may help. But he has all the talent to be one of the best receivers in the league 

[Willbacker]

Nope.  Ozzie specifically said WR or TE.

I forgot what the topic was and was stating my opinion. My bad.

[rmw10]

what did he mean by we will have one by the end of the 2014 season? Are they signing someone who's injured and won't start the year, or someone suspended and will miss a few games? Blackmon? Or draft someone who won't start from day 1? Thought his wording was very precise harbs even said I hope we have him before then. Precise but weird.

 

I think he meant to say by the end of the 2014 OFFseason.

[Gordo52]

Biscotti is such a great owner. Seriously, we're lucky.

[Gordo52]

Juan's going to be the OL coach next year. So what is Moeller going to do??

[arnie_uk]

I think he meant to say by the end of the 2014 OFFseason.

that makes a lot more sense