Ravens Season-Review Press Conference

[rmw10]

that makes a lot more sense

 

Yeah I think that's why John hit him back with the "I hope we have him before then."  I took it as sarcasm calling Ozzie out for messing up, but maybe that's just me lol

[Free Agent]

He just really isn't all that good. The problem is we have no good offensive options. Its like when you are in the club and start hitting on a girl thinking she is an 8. Problem is she is really a 5, she just surrounds herself with a bunch of 3's to make herself look better. When we can draft a better option for cheaper then let him walk. We are cash strapped and can use the money for someone better like Arthur Jones. I have said it before I will say it again, Pitta ain't worth 5 mil a year no way no how.

 

He's definitely not worth a big contract, that's for sure. He's only had half a season of really good play, plus the limited time he got this season. But I disagree, he is that good. He's a very reliable receiving option, and he's a mismatch for linebackers and safeties. He's not blockbuster contract-worthy, but he is a very good receiving TE who needs to be resigned.

 

If only Ozzie would add Ebron or Amaro along with Pitta to make create a two-headed monster... that's what I'm hoping for.

[Sami84]

I think the way ozzie said We Know indicates a free agent wr. In a draft you really dont know what you are getting...just my 2 C

[Sami84]

Why not decker along with ebron/amaro ?

[Inqui]

Why not decker along with ebron/amaro ?

He'll be way to expensive. I reckon he's a product of Peyton Manning and Demariyus Thomas anyway.

[Inqui]

I think the way ozzie said We Know indicates a free agent wr. In a draft you really dont know what you are getting...just my 2 C

My call there is Ebron or Amaro. Ozzie said a "WR or a TE", and I'd be stunned if at least one of those two weren't there at 17. Even if they have great and wonderful combines, teams will be a bit hesitant about taking them before 15.

[Jillester]

Juan's going to be the OL coach next year. So what is Moeller going to ?

 

Hopefully Andy read the writing on the wall during the season and has lined up another job elsewhere.  I'd be astounded if he took a lesser position with the Ravens.  

[LookatmeImopen]

Ravens receivers need to scheme more to get open. Our pass patterns are vanilla and predictable. If the running backs were hurt then why didn't we see more of the backups? Pita is one of the best possesion receivers in the league, very valuable, very noticeable when he wasn't in the line up, but I agree with Ozzie we do need a tight end who is big, athelic, can catch, and run after the catch. Strong safety needs to learn to tackle in the open field. What the heck happened to the offensive line we saw after the Denver game last season. Have no clue what happened  there and will not point to the obvious, because it usually isn't the case. I don't know who was hurt, and who wasn't, but the who unit was broken. This was in no way all the centers fault, just a spiritual break down of the unit as a whole. The running game finally looked deciet in the first quater of the Cincinati game then we abandoned it, Passed on 2nd and two. Why? If it is starting to work go with it. Football is as much psychological as physical we had a chance to have the backs feel good about themselves and compltely abandoned the opportunity. It ain't going to all click if you don't let it when it's there.

 

Observations from 40 years on the couch.

[Gordo52]

Hopefully Andy read the writing on the wall during the season and has lined up another job elsewhere. I'd be astounded if he took a lesser position with the Ravens.

We should make him wash Flacco's cars and jewelry

[redravenfan]

in relation to the te or wr. could the wr they have in mind still be in the playoffs and they can't say anything just yet. it is possible .I doubt its a draft target

[PerpetuallyBored74]

I was disappointed when Ozzie said a wide receiver OR tight end.

 

We need a dual-threat TE even more than we need a WR.

We can use Pitta, Mellette, or Marlon Brown in the slot and we have Torrey + whoever we keep as the other deep threat (Jacoby or Deonte and I think Brown can also be used here)

What we don't have is a TE who can block well enough to execute off tackle runs and help out as an extra pass protector while being a decent enough receiver that when he's on the field it isn't a near-automatic run play (think Todd Heap or Heath Miller)

The traditional Air Coryell doesn't have much deception to it (especially the way WE execute it).

Mainly that's done through play-action, which not only requires a strong running game but also a TE who can catch AND block.

We also need another red-zone threat because we can't count on our coaches to devise clever red zone schemes, so we need our players to just flat-out beat whoever's covering them.

[Jillester]

We should make him wash Flacco's cars and jewelry

 

He has enough experience in serving others as he held Castillo's clip board /IPad for the majority of the season  :wootwoot: 

[DeltaRaven]

We definitely need that tough catch in traffic pass catcher (one with size would help).

 

I'm thinking they go after Hakeem Nicks in FA...who would be a value sign with him coming off a couple of injury plagued seasons. I actually wanted him during the draft (where we ended up with Oher) and thought he was similar to Boldin. The FA market looks pretty scarce otherwise. 

 

If they're unable to sign Nicks they'll be looking in the draft at Evans, Benjamin, Ebron, or Amaro. If none of them land to us it'll be later in the draft or a later trade. 

 

Gino is out at center.....but won't be losing his job to a rookie draft pick. We'll definitely be bringing in a veteran. I've heard people mention Jenson as a possible option at center but I'm not aware of what he's capable of at the position. 

 

Due to KO's ability (and size) to play either LG or RT it leaves us with options. Whatever falls to us in the draft will fill one spot and we'll move KO to the other. Leaves us with a line of Monroe - Rookie/KO - FA - Yanda - Rookie/KO. Wagner, Jenson, and Gradkowski as depth. Lets just hope KO can come back healthy.....back injuries are tough. 

 

I'm disappointed that Juan Castillo will be back. I don't buy the "long-term success" stories people have been selling from Philly. Talk to any Eagles fan about their running game for the past 10 (up until 2013). Blame the personnel all you want but day 1 we had the same OL as last year minus Birk and it went from top 10 in the league to all time bad....that doesn't just happen because of one center. 

 

But, we have no choice now but to give him a chance and see if he can prove himself now that Harbs has put his neck out on the line for him. I find it odd that we have guaranteed spots to some lower tiered coordinators but the head OC himself is still up in the air and whoever it does end up being doesn't get any input as to who he wants on his staff. Doesn't sound like a recipe for success to me....it sounds like more of the same that we saw just this past season. 

 

Elam to SS where he belongs is good news. I'm excited to see what he can do in his natural position. Free safety will be a target in the first 3 rounds. Outside of Byrd there doesn't seem to be many options in FA....lots of SS but not many FS. 

[Ravenseconbeast]

@Tru11 pointed this out: 

 

castillo last seasons as an offensive line coach on philly:

 

2010 49 sacks

2009 38

2008 23

2007 49

2006 28

2005 42

2004 37

2003 43

2002 36

 

ravens this season 48.

 

Flacco must be thrilled lol.

[Jokerraven]

@Tru11 pointed this out: 

 

castillo last seasons as an offensive line coach on philly:

 

2010 49 sacks

2009 38

2008 23

2007 49

2006 28

2005 42

2004 37

2003 43

2002 36

 

ravens this season 48.

 

Flacco must be thrilled lol.

aren't they all very very high I thought 20 something was high 4 years of 40 plus sacks . how can anyone say  his offense was so successful he has a stunning record...that's nuts he was oline coach when vick was qb ...omg it just clicked I was thinking foles

[Jokerraven]

in relation to the te or wr. could the wr they have in mind still be in the playoffs and they can't say anything just yet. it is possible .I doubt its a draft target

if they wait on anyone let them wait on earl Thomas . secondary problem solved

[theblackdog]

Why not decker along with ebron/amaro ?

 

Decker would be too expensive and based on my dealings with him on my fantasy league, he was very up and down this year as a WR.

[SecretAgentMan]

Ozzie just practically guaranteed that we WILL have a guy on our team that will convert third and seven and get YACs. He seems to get it

That could be a lot of people then.....

 

Sounds like he's prepared........

 

Problem is, no one's perfect. So yeah. I don't expect him to get everything right......

 

I'm gonna miss Suggs though....

[hawkprey]

Is it me or does "Receiver who can catch in traffic/catch 3rd downs and get YAC" = "someone actually good"? How are you a good receiver if you can't do those things?

 

To me, when people say "possession guy" and "speed guy", they really mean "slow but good WR" and "fast but bad WR". We need a good WR.

[DomMcRaven]

Besides Castillo and Hostler gone, all I'm really ask for is an innovative OC. But I think we're beating a dead horse with this.

[The Raven]

Is it me or does "Receiver who can catch in traffic/catch 3rd downs and get YAC" = "someone actually good"? How are you a good receiver if you can't do those things?

 

To me, when people say "possession guy" and "speed guy", they really mean "slow but good WR" and "fast but bad WR". We need a good WR.

 

Ask Torrey and Jacoby, lol, sorry but they don't do that stuff well.

 

 

One more comment from me on Castillo: His run games are proven to work. The quarterbacks they had in his time were Vick and McNabb. Both scrambling guys, right? Scrambling guys, I think tend to get sacked more. And, scheme has little to do with pass protection in my book. You can at least try to scheme a hole open, but you can't design a scheme that will ensure that your offensive line will pick up and stop a four man rush. Pass protection is one area where you really need the personnel. 

[Free Agent]

To me, when people say "possession guy" and "speed guy", they really mean "slow but good WR" and "fast but bad WR". We need a good WR.

 

Not necessarily. Torrey is a speed guy. Is he a bad WR? Not at all. I'd say the label of "speed guy" means that they're more one dimensional. They can be utilized as a deep threat to take the top off of defenses and stretch the field, but they generally don't have the route running ability or the physicality to go over the middle and make the tough catches.

[hawkprey]

Not necessarily. Torrey is a speed guy. Is he a bad WR? Not at all. I'd say the label of "speed guy" means that they're more one dimensional. They can be utilized as a deep threat to take the top off of defenses and stretch the field, but they generally don't have the route running ability or the physicality to go over the middle and make the tough catches.

A good WR would be fast AND come down with those catches/run routes well. Torrey isn't bad or good yet. He's an average starter.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

Ozzie just practically guaranteed that we WILL have a guy on our team that will convert third and seven and get YACs. He seems to get it

 

Yeh, Ozzie gets it, all right! We had a guy on our team that converted third and sevens and got YACs. His name was Anquan Boldin who has better career stats than Larry Fitzgerald. I guess that's why they call him the Wizard of Oz. I'm glad he has seen the error of his ways. I just wish he would admit that he was wrong when Q was traded for a 6th (?) round draft pick and a tip from Jim Harbaugh on Marlon Brown, an UFA. It would be great to see Q in purple & black again but I don't think it will happen so the next best thing will be a clone of him but a little taller. It takes a big man to admit he was wrong. Fess up, Oz!

 

I know its business but I don't like what he said wrt Terrell Suggs either. Its totally tactless and he might as well have told Terrell he's not afraid to let him go. That's not the way to win friends and influence people. It didn't work out too well last year. I'm surprised to hear a GM talk like that at a Press Conference. The technique usually backfires by building a wall between the negotiating parties instead of tying to build a bridge.

[omar586]

They talked quite a bit about building size in the trenches as well.

i agree here, trenches is where we need to b strong every year

[omar586]

suggs needs to extend his contract and retire a raven.

 

ngata needs to do the same.

 

 

drafting OL have been terrible past years, cousin, jah, .. we need to draft better OL players..

[Ravenseconbeast]

suggs needs to extend his contract and retire a raven.

ngata needs to do the same.


drafting OL have been terrible past years, cousin, jah, .. we need to draft better OL players..

Don't forget Gino.

I'd love to see if we have a chance to pick up Tyler Larsen @ 3rd round

[arnie_uk]

Yeh, Ozzie gets it, all right! We had a guy on our team that converted third and sevens and got YACs. His name was Anquan Boldin who has better career stats than Larry Fitzgerald. I guess that's why they call him the Wizard of Oz. I'm glad he has seen the error of his ways. I just wish he would admit that he was wrong when Q was traded for a 6th (?) round draft pick and a tip from Jim Harbaugh on Marlon Brown, an UFA. It would be great to see Q in purple & black again but I don't think it will happen so the next best thing will be a clone of him but a little taller. It takes a big man to admit he was wrong. Fess up, Oz!

I know its business but I don't like what he said wrt Terrell Suggs either. Its totally tactless and he might as well have told Terrell he's not afraid to let him go. That's not the way to win friends and influence people. It didn't work out too well last year. I'm surprised to hear a GM talk like that at a Press Conference. The technique usually backfires by building a wall between the negotiating parties instead of tying to build a bridge.

negotiation tactic. If u say u want him he has all the leverage. Say you've been here before and ended up cutting guys. He has none

[KnowNoLimits]

It's uncharacteristic of Ozzie to announce something about a star player in that manner. I don't believe Suggs is going anywhere. Ozzie is more a behind the scene guy, not a Jerry Jones.

[Inqui]

negotiation tactic. If u say u want him he has all the leverage. Say you've been here before and ended up cutting guys. He has none

Exactly this. A contract talk is between a player's agent and the FO, not the player themselves and the FO. You don't sign contracts by becoming friends with the player.