SecretAgentMan

What kind of WR do you want?

252 posts in this topic

This isn't a "who do you want us to get thread"? Rather a what kind of WR do you think WR should get?

WR is a huge need(duh). But what kind? Some will say possession WR(Boldin esq dude. Matthews, Nicks) Others will say big body WR. (Cooper, Benjamin, Evans, Barden), some will say playmaker(Lee, Watkins, Beckham).

Me? Well what do Manning, Brees, Rodgers, and Brady all have in common.

They have a tough slot WR that will go over the middle and take a hit, but still have the chance to make a big play afterwards.

I think we are missing a little quickie slot WR, and it's obvious Marlon can't be that.

I may have us getting Beckham Jr, but I'm also an advocate for us getting a Hawkins, a Brandin Cooks. A little out WR.

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Somebody like Boldin. Simple as that. Attack the middle and make tough catches. Break tackles and get YACs. Fight for yardage.

 

You know, a guy that does things that NONE of our current guys do except MAYBE Marlon.

-1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think what we need is a clear WR2 and/or a clear slot receiver. Marlon Brown can improve at either role if he has to imo, and Aaron Mellette looked good enough in the preseason to play a possession guy if we need it (wouldn't be opposed to having him in the slot tbh). But Marlon gives us a lot of flexibility as to what kind of guy we can take.

 

Most importantly we need someone who can run short and intermediate routes, and has reliable hands. The short passing game is a huge link in the chain missing from our system as that allows us to attack more of the field vertically, forces a defence to spread out and really opens up the deep threat (I also think it would help the running game if we had that credible threat, though not solve everything by any stretch). Jacoby was good as that guy for us, but I fear he'll be a cap casualty. If we replace him I'd rather see a guy who can run better routes and has more reliable hands.

 

Being able to go up and the ball's another big component, and I think that inclines me towards a bigger receiver who can also run a few nice routes.

 

Finally, I think we need another deep threat more than the coaches are letting on. Don't get me wrong here, I love the idea of bringing our passing game closer to the LoS and think we should. But the deep ball is our big weapon, and if we let Jacoby walk then we'd only have Torrey for that role (and Deonte Thompson, who needs a bit more work). I'd rather have a second guy who can blow the top off a defence among other things, as any deep safety could just focus on Torrey otherwise.

 

I don't think we have a crippling need for a Welker-like slot guy, as long as whoever we bring in can provide Joe with a quick release valve if he needs it. Wouldn't complain at all about a pure slot guy though.

 

In the draft I really like Marqise Lee and Odell Beckham Jr as I think they're the best fit for all three categories. There isn't really anyone who stands out to me in a big way in FA imo.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Something like Jeffery or Vincent Jackson. ;)

Tough and physical who can go up and fight for the ball.

Someone with Matt Elams initials.

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Something like Jeffery or Vincent Jackson. ;)

Tough and physical who can go up and fight for the ball.

Someone with Matt Elams initials.

No we aren't getting Mike Evan's far to slow, we need a fast playmaking receiver, quick slot receivers can be found in later rounds 

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i think we should get an OC first and depending on the scheme decide what kind of WR we need.

 

ideally a Calvin Johnson, AJ green, Fitz  like wr who is a physical freak would be ideally but those dont grow on trees.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No we aren't getting Mike Evan's far to slow, we need a fast playmaking receiver, quick slot receivers can be found in later rounds 

 

We already have fast playmaking receivers. Boldin already proved that you don't need speed to make plays. A lot of our receivers don't jump up and overpower people for the ball. That being said, I'd love for the Ravens to draft Mike Evans.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

someone who can be a contributor from day one. No Injured reserve, no raw talent, no needs to learn x y z. we have enough of those already .

7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i think we should get an OC first and depending on the scheme decide what kind of WR we need.

 

ideally a Calvin Johnson, AJ green, Fitz  like wr who is a physical freak would be ideally but those dont grow on trees.

 

 

Kenny Britt the ability to be one of those guys.We should sign him.The only reason people don't mention his name along with those other guys is because he has never had a good QB.If Flacco was throwing to him his numbers would explode just like Demaryius Thomas' did when he got Manning.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kenny Britt the ability to be one of those guys.We should sign him.The only reason people don't mention his name along with those other guys is because he has never had a good QB.If Flacco was throwing to him his numbers would explode just like Demaryius Thomas' did when he got Manning.

I thought Britt was also lazy and an alcoholic, but maybe I'm getting my reports mixed up. He's not mentioned with those guys because he isn't one. Megatron was still productive before Stafford, and Fitz wasn't that bad without Warner.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We need a fighter. Someone to battle for balls in the air, solid hands and a great route runner. Doesn't need to have blazing speed, we have Torrey, Jacoby (at the moment) and Deonte for that.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kenny Britt the ability to be one of those guys.We should sign him.The only reason people don't mention his name along with those other guys is because he has never had a good QB.If Flacco was throwing to him his numbers would explode just like Demaryius Thomas' did when he got Manning.

 

im not sure though.

 

britt does have exceptional physical skills but he does not have a good mentality if i have to believe all the reports about him.

so far he has shown questionable hands and sloppy RR.

 

based on potential and if he is cheap he could be a good signing but do you have faith the ravens have the coaches to make that potential come out?

Ravens havent been that good at getting the best out of a WR.

And with Britt mental issues i have a hard time believing they will get through to him.

 

He is nice though in madden lol.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This isn't a "who do you want us to get thread"? Rather a what kind of WR do you think WR should get?

WR is a huge need(duh). But what kind? Some will say possession WR(Boldin esq dude. Matthews, Nicks) Others will say big body WR. (Cooper, Benjamin, Evans, Barden), some will say playmaker(Lee, Watkins, Beckham).

Me? Well what do Manning, Brees, Rodgers, and Brady all have in common.

They have a tough slot WR that will go over the middle and take a hit, but still have the chance to make a big play afterwards.

I think we are missing a little quickie slot WR, and it's obvious Marlon can't be that.

I may have us getting Beckham Jr, but I'm also an advocate for us getting a Hawkins, a Brandin Cooks. A little out WR.

 

Tough over the middle the guy with reliable hands - the one thing our receivers tend to do is drop a few easy ones, and that's costly.  Q's and Pitta's specialties are catching the tough passes and moving the chains, and being open when Flacco needs them the most.  We missed that this entire season.  I'm all for taking one of the tight ends in round 1 and then coming out with a guy like Jordan Matthews (my favorite receiver in this draft) in round 2.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The WR i like is Jordan Matthews from day one i said he is a raven to me. but don't be surprise if the ravens trade back a little and take Bradin Cooks to be a tavon austin type guy in the slot with Marlon brown. also don't be surprise the ravens double dip at WR.

 

here's Bradin cooks highlights he matches touch catches, run excellent Routes has great hands and he's not afraid of going over the middle to make a catch and take hit.  

http://youtu.be/lfJvQEYRJsw

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Something like Jeffery or Vincent Jackson. ;)

Tough and physical who can go up and fight for the ball.

Someone with Matt Elams initials.

Does his name rhyme with Ike Mevans? LOL

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been tweeting my horn for Beckham Jr in the draft. I'm looking for more of a slot guy to work the underneath,catch screens,run reverses and in general not drop the ball.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm torn. One part of me wants us to get the big, fast beast like Evans, Benjamin or even Coleman(project) who could be around in the second round. The other part wants a compact, quick, tough possession type guy that can move the chains like Beckham or Cook.

 

How about both?  :D

 

The bigger need seems to be in the slot.  The OP is right. We are missing that quick possession type guy that seems to be the common thread for big passing game success.  

Edited by Tank 92
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I want a big strong WR , but to honest I just want a consistent player, I do not care about size as cause there is so many good small WR, just give me a good OC that knows how to use him,,,,,,,,,,,

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Really, I would to get someone with the knack to get open and with good hands, regardless of the "category" of receiver he is.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Really, I would to get someone with the knack to get open and with good hands, regardless of the "category" of receiver he is.

 

 

I'm kinda' thinking the present core of Torrey, Marlon and Jacoby can be those types of guys if we have the threat in the slot, TE and a decent running game.  It may be that what we perceive as their deficiencies were exacerbated by opposing Ds knowing they were basically our only options. 

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm kinda' thinking the present core of Torrey, Marlon and Jacoby can be those types of guys if we have the threat in the slot, TE and a decent running game.  It may be that what we perceive as their deficiencies were exacerbated by opposing Ds knowing they were basically our only options. 

Could very well be. Our plays were also fairly vanilla and straight off the route tree without much scheming to get guys open. That said, there are those "slippery" guys who always seem to be open regardless of formation or route. I'd love for us to be able to find one of those guys.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Could very well be. Our plays were also fairly vanilla and straight off the route tree without much scheming to get guys open. That said, there are those "slippery" guys who always seem to be open regardless of formation or route. I'd love for us to be able to find one of those guys.

 

 

Agreed, a la Stokely, Welker.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No we aren't getting Mike Evan's far to slow, we need a fast playmaking receiver, quick slot receivers can be found in later rounds 

 

By that logic, maybe you take a guy like Mike Evans in the first, and then add a Jarvis Landry or a Rashad Greene type in the later rounds. Not that I would do that, but it seems like an option if you're up for double dipping at WR.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Personally, I just want a guy who can get some separation and then make the catch. A guy who can be counted on for the ten yard, chain-moving catch. That's what I want.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Somebody like Boldin. Simple as that. Attack the middle and make tough catches. Break tackles and get YACs. Fight for yardage.

You know, a guy that does things that NONE of our current guys do except MAYBE Marlon.

I agree with this. It seems like we never had many throws in the middle. The only one I can think of is Jacoby Jones catching a 4th down catch in the middle. I think that was the vikings game?
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good question. We've got our burner, Torrey Smith, to stretch the field. Marlon Brown is pretty much another T.J. Houshmandzadeh IMO, a possession receiver and redzone weapon. Jacoby, I don't see coming back. Missing from our group is a quick receiver ala Andrew Hawkins/Wes Welker and one who is physical ala Anquan Boldin/Brandon Marshall.

4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now