Disturbing Joe Flacco stats?

[bcavanagh]

fuck flacco this year....terribleeeeeeee

[bcavanagh]

Flacco played absolutely horrible and there is no excuse..even when he had weapons the last few weeks he continued to make bad play after bad play..

 

along with the run game...shoot me

[ravensfan520]

what I said about tyrod is fact he came in and in two mintues helped the pats score 14 points look it up I did not make it up.
if you are so upset by his contract that you have to post this same thing over and over you might want to rethink things. the contract stands ozzie is smarter then any of us fans and he is smart enough to know what a qb is worth and he was willing to pay the price. it is amazing how everyone says Ozzie is the best gm in the business and he never pays too much for any player and then when he makes his biggest acquisition of talent all of a sudden he is stupid and made a bad choice. Joe flacco is the future of this team end of story .
Playoffs every year he has been in the league until now
3afccg
1 superbowl win with mvp.

if you can't recognize a winner then quoting my post is not going to help you cause since he got here all he ever does is win, and another thing if he had not been hurt we would have smashed the bengals and everyone knows it .

I dont think it would have beat the bengals at home hurt or not. He didnt fair to well earlier in the season at M&T ... remember dalton 3 int that game the d played lights out we could barely survive on offense etc... heres a new stat to keep up with... 1 year 8-8 3rd in division since new contract. Only 5 more years to go to and now we start the rebuilding phase of the contract... while most teams already have pieces in place... bengals (young) steelers always play hard and were robbed by the refs in kansas city game ( I hate to say). And browns have a high draft picks to retool and and get a qb(bunch of them this draft)

[ravensfan520]

Exactly!That's another thing people overlook.

brown was good at times like everybody... he made some great catches but went on spans were he wasnt getting targeted or playing... dropping passes etc.

[ravensfan520]

I've seen way too many people over the last year saying "Forget (insert big time wr),we're stacked at wr.Lets see what these undrafted wrs,seventh round picks and Tandon Doss can do" for anyone to call Flacco out about his stats.We downgraded our wrs and o line and lost our te.What ravens fan was actually expecting Flacco to have career stats after that?

they probably expecting a franchise qb to overcome that... that's why he was labeled the leader and signed to the large contract.

[flynismo]

they probably expecting a franchise qb to overcome that... that's why he was labeled the leader and signed to the large contract.

That is true, and didn't Spiderman's father say "with big money comes big responsibility"?

But in hindsight, this offense never stood a chance. Not even Spidey could have overcome the train wreck we called an offense

[jimmypowder]

That is true, and didn't Spiderman's father say "with big money comes big responsibility"?

But in hindsight, this offense never stood a chance. Not even Spidey could have overcome the train wreck we called an offense

Yep. I'm not sure what the coaches and front office were thinking prior to the season when looking at our oline.

You had a lazy,inconsistent Mckinnie who probably could not finish a season out. You had Osemele with major back problems last year.A new undersized Center, Yanda who had major shoulder surgery and Oher ,a huge bust that has regressed each year it seems.

 

This setup Flacco for failure big time.

 

Tell you what . Give Joe the Broncos oline and our current players and he would have lit it up this year. WIthout Boldin .

[jimmypowder]

Phillip Rivers is a damn good QB so I won't even argue about who is better between him and Joe.

 

Romo = Witten,Bryant,that rookie who made big plays(I forget his name) and Austin

 

Ryan =Julio,White,Gonzales and Douglas

 

Flacco=Torrey Smith andddd..........

As much as I like Torrey,hes not even close to a Bryant ,Julio Jones type receiver.

[wayne]

they probably expecting a franchise qb to overcome that... that's why he was labeled the leader and signed to the large contract.

How is this not hard to understand. At some point, you got to overcome some things if you feel you are elite. Yea, you wont win every time being elite not working with much but within the madness, show some type of life to make it be a unanimous conclusion that if given more to work with, you would shine like a new penny. I don't feel Flacco made it unanimous to feel that way, it's more like a split decision. Sometimes he shows it but for the most part, he doesn't show it. His bads look really bad.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

Man every thread is a Flacco thread now smh.

Alot of people complained about Flaccos pocket awareness and mobility, this year he really improved in that aspect. His accuracy this year was bad, in part because of his recievers not really getting seperation. How many times did we hear the announcers saying no one was open? Alot of his ints was throwing into double coverage forcing throws trying to make a plays. Our number 1 reciever had 2nd most drops in league, I dont know how flacco is responsible for that, but that does affect him and his stats. I feel like he didnt really trust his receivers this year. Hopefully he will get some weapons in draft.

[Jokerraven]

I dont think it would have beat the bengals at home hurt or not. He didnt fair to well earlier in the season at M&T ... remember dalton 3 int that game the d played lights out we could barely survive on offense etc... heres a new stat to keep up with... 1 year 8-8 3rd in division since new contract. Only 5 more years to go to and now we start the rebuilding phase of the contract... while most teams already have pieces in place... bengals (young) steelers always play hard and were robbed by the refs in kansas city game ( I hate to say). And browns have a high draft picks to retool and and get a qb(bunch of them this draft)

agree to disagree 31 other teams in the league your not forced to be a flacco or ravens fan. flacco bashing is getting old.I like joe and I am excited for a new season

 

football 101 no oline no offense .I can't help you learn about football as I am learning myself. and btw we beat the bengals no need to lie about it that's fact. have a good day .

[Jokerraven]

Man every thread is a Flacco thread now smh.

Alot of people complained about Flaccos pocket awareness and mobility, this year he really improved in that aspect. His accuracy this year was bad, in part because of his recievers not really getting seperation. How many times did we hear the announcers saying no one was open? Alot of his ints was throwing into double coverage forcing throws trying to make a plays. Our number 1 reciever had 2nd most drops in league, I dont know how flacco is responsible for that, but that does affect him and his stats. I feel like he didnt really trust his receivers this year. Hopefully he will get some weapons in draft.

I know the flacco bashing is worse then fire cam in every single thread

[jimmypowder]

I know the flacco bashing is worse then fire cam in every single thread

Joe did  help win a Super Bowl less then a year ago,didn't he?

[Jokerraven]

Joe did  help win a Super Bowl less then a year ago,didn't he?

if you read these forums you would think we paid schaub or tebow that money . Ungrateful doesn't even come close. Cutler just got 18 million a year, no ring, Ryan more then Flacco no ring, Bradford set to make three million more then Joe.  Romo I can do this all day.  but ignore works :)

[ravensfan520]

agree to disagree 31 other teams in the league your not forced to be a flacco or ravens fan. flacco bashing is getting old.I like joe and I am excited for a new season

football 101 no oline no offense .I can't help you learn about football as I am learning myself. and btw we beat the bengals no need to lie about it that's fact. have a good day .

cap space 101... you cant put an adequate offense around an overpaid qb... look at the giants or falcons cardinals (kolb). The steelers went through more lineman in one game then we went through in a year and they finsihed with the same record. You cant pay for one player and expect to put a bunch of weapons around him.

[shawn ny]

It doesn't help that his receivers drop a considerable amount of catchable balls.

[Ravenseconbeast]

I'm seeing the same argument over and over. "Give flacco everything he needs, THEN he'll prove it to you!"

So where is all that money comming from to help this elite QB that needs 'all this help'?

[wayne]

cap space 101... you cant put an adequate offense around an overpaid qb... look at the giants or falcons cardinals (kolb). The steelers went through more lineman in one game then we went through in a year and they finsihed with the same record. You cant pay for one player and expect to put a bunch of weapons around him.

Agreed. The contract Joe received hurt the team in him getting more weapons around him.

[Ravenseconbeast]

cap space 101... you cant put an adequate offense around an overpaid qb... look at the giants or falcons cardinals (kolb). The steelers went through more lineman in one game then we went through in a year and they finsihed with the same record. You cant pay for one player and expect to put a bunch of weapons around him.

Yup that's what I've been telling the few people here for weeks. Some just refuse to face the reality.

[Tru11]

Yep. I'm not sure what the coaches and front office were thinking prior to the season when looking at our oline.

You had a lazy,inconsistent Mckinnie who probably could not finish a season out. You had Osemele with major back problems last year.A new undersized Center, Yanda who had major shoulder surgery and Oher ,a huge bust that has regressed each year it seems.

 

This setup Flacco for failure big time.

 

Tell you what . Give Joe the Broncos oline and our current players and he would have lit it up this year. WIthout Boldin .

 

you do realise the broncos o-line lost their 2 best players to injury very early right.....

ryan clady and dan koppen are on IR since the season started lol.

im pretty sure the guy playing QB has alot to do with this unit playing well.

im pretty sure it also helps that the skill positions are filled with great players for that QB to play around with.

 

i know you want to defend flacco and all but he is no way near peyton level lol.

i have no doubt peyton or rodgers would have done a lil bit better behind our o-line.

those 2 are on another level and proved they can play behind a shitty o-line.

however in flacco defense those 2 always had some pretty stellar skill positions players altough you can argue that some of those players became stellar because of them.

[wayne]

I'm seeing the same argument over and over. "Give flacco everything he needs, THEN he'll prove it to you!"

So where is all that money comming from to help this elite QB that needs 'all this help'?

In one year ( not even one year, 6 months ), Flacco has bad coaches, bad O-line, bad Wrs all of a sudden......... all of this in a 6 month span. These same Flacco homers were praising Caldwell just 6 months ago and now he just all of a sudden start calling bad plays? People were praising Torey Smith and Jacoby and now they aren't even 3rd string quality WRs?

[Ravenseconbeast]

you do realise the broncos o-line lost their 2 best players to injury very early right.....
ryan clady and dan koppen are on IR since the season started lol.
im pretty sure the guy playing QB has alot to do with this unit playing well.
im pretty sure it also helps that the skill positions are filled with great players for that QB to play around with.

i know you want to defend flacco and all but he is no way near peyton level lol.
i have no doubt peyton or rodgers would have done a lil bit better behind our o-line.
those 2 are on another level and proved they can play behind a [profanity deleted]ty o-line.
however in flacco defense those 2 always had some pretty stellar skill positions players altough you can argue that some of those players became stellar because of them.

I agree w/ this. IF you see any of the broncos game, peyton's game changed when those 2 lineman went out. I think his performance dropped considerably for ONE game..then a week after its the same Peyton again. That guy knows how to make things work.

[Tru11]

Yup that's what I've been telling the few people here for weeks. Some just refuse to face the reality.

 

flacco got paid alot of money i agree.

But to be fair not alot of it counts against the cap so it isent actually hurting the team.

 

the blame for the offense struggles lies with the coaches who tried to improve certain things but infact broke more then they fixed.

its not management nor players.

 

its the coaching for the biggest part by far.

[Ravenseconbeast]

In one year ( not even one year, 6 months ), Flacco has bad coaches, bad O-line, bad Wrs all of a sudden......... all of this in a 6 month span. These same Flacco homers were praising Caldwell just 6 months ago and now he just all of a sudden start calling bad plays? People were praising Torey Smith and Jacoby and now they aren't even 3rd string quality WRs?

As crazy as this sounds, we'll go through 5 OC with flacco by 2015. The blame game for apologists is everyone else except flacco.

[wayne]

you do realise the broncos o-line lost their 2 best players to injury very early right.....

ryan clady and dan koppen are on IR since the season started lol.

im pretty sure the guy playing QB has alot to do with this unit playing well.

im pretty sure it also helps that the skill positions are filled with great players for that QB to play around with.

 

i know you want to defend flacco and all but he is no way near peyton level lol.

i have no doubt peyton or rodgers would have done a lil bit better behind our o-line.

those 2 are on another level and proved they can play behind a [profanity deleted]ty o-line.

however in flacco defense those 2 always had some pretty stellar skill positions players altough you can argue that some of those players became stellar because of them.

No, Manning backup lineman was All world lineman, blasphemy and shame on you for saying his 2 best lineman were hurtt for most of the year b/c that hurts the Flacco homers reasoning behind their logic. Yes, QBs can help their O-line out to perform better..... that should be so obvious to anyone. QBs can also help out in their O-line playing bad.

 

Also, I would take Russel Wilson, Cam Newton, and possibly Kapernick as candidates that would have done a lot better with the same ingredients Flacco has.

[baltimorefan328]

Agreed. The only one of those stats I care about are the turnovers, which he needs to rein in next year. A better oline and receivers who fight for the ball will help with that, too.

 

I agree that some of Flacco's interceptions wouldn't have happened if the receiver went back to the ball or fought harder for it, but this still kind of scares me. Receivers that will fight for the ball doesn't necessarily mean those receivers are any better at getting off coverages or getting separation, which is two things I think the Ravens receivers extremely lack. I just cant think that every wide receiver that comes to baltimore fails to get separation, especially with a guy like Doss coming in who was supposed to be a perfect guy to find holes in zones and get open in the scouting report when he was drafted. Seems coaching has to be a reason for the lack of production 

[Ravenseconbeast]

No, Manning backup lineman was All world lineman, blasphemy and shame on you for saying his 2 best lineman were hurtt for most of the year b/c that hurts the Flacco homers reasoning behind their logic. Yes, QBs can help their O-line out to perform better..... that should be so obvious to anyone. QBs can also help out in their O-line playing bad.

Also, I would take Russel Wilson, Cam Newton, and possibly Kapernick as candidates that would have done a lot better with the same ingredients Flacco has.

Speaking of Russell Wilson. Wow. How many lineman did he had to go through? I think 5 starting lineman went out this season. And he was still considered MVP candidate.

Some players just know how to make it work and make things work and be highly productive. some just sits there and ask to have help. Jay Cutler reminds me a lot of what flacco will go through. And that's certainly not the QB I want if Joe is the next cutler.

[Token]

Yep. I'm not sure what the coaches and front office were thinking prior to the season when looking at our oline.

You had a lazy,inconsistent Mckinnie who probably could not finish a season out. You had Osemele with major back problems last year.A new undersized Center, Yanda who had major shoulder surgery and Oher ,a huge bust that has regressed each year it seems.

 

This setup Flacco for failure big time.

 

Tell you what . Give Joe the Broncos oline and our current players and he would have lit it up this year. WIthout Boldin .

 

Well the thing about Peyton is that he makes his oline look a lot better than it is with his audibles, adjustments at the line, and quick release. It's not an indictment against Joe because not many QBs (if any) make the amount of pre-snap adjustments that Peyton does. I mean when you look at his tackles, Chris Clark alone gave up 7 sacks and Orlando Franklin gave up 3.5 but also had 10 penalties to go with it, 6 of which were holding. Vasquez was the one elite player they had this year. It's just the benefit of having Peyton, he makes everyone better.

[flynismo]

As crazy as this sounds, we'll go through 5 OC with flacco by 2015. The blame game for apologists is everyone else except flacco.

Using your "logic", then thatt makes our FO a bunch of Flacco apologists too.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Using your "logic", then thatt makes our FO a bunch of Flacco apologists too.

Thats a cheap excuse nismo. FO makes mistakes too. They're not perfect.