Disturbing Joe Flacco stats?

[monkeycatt]

just read this on nfl.com final power ranking list.  is this really true?

 

. But all those who would rank Flacco over the Philip Riverses, Tony Romos and Matt Ryans of the world just because Flacco has won a Super Bowlshould remember that he finished 32nd in passer rating, has now completed fewer than 60 percent of his passes for three straight seasons and has yet to throw more than 25 touchdown passes in a year. 

 

 

that CAN'T be correct!

[ratedr]

No it's true.

I don't really care about completion percentage (because it rewards dink and dunkers) or even the # of TDs to be honest.

I do care however that he's turning the ball over at a ridiculous rate.

[Sami84]

just read this on nfl.com final power ranking list.  is this really true?

 

. But all those who would rank Flacco over the Philip Riverses, Tony Romos and Matt Ryans of the world just because Flacco has won a Super Bowlshould remember that he finished 32nd in passer rating, has now completed fewer than 60 percent of his passes for three straight seasons and has yet to throw more than 25 touchdown passes in a year. 

 

 

that CAN'T be correct!

 

Hes our joe Fluko and we are stuck with him, so lets get him weapons to bail him out! BY the way.. Flu-cko isnt a swear word. It just means hes a bit flucky. Mods just chill! Fluke= Lucky. 

[Tank 92]

It's disturbing that anyone who watched all of the games(like people here) would think that this "stat" is disturbing.

[Sami84]

its not disturbing. It is depressing as i honestly dont see him becoming consistant. (in the good way)

[monkeycatt]

It's disturbing that anyone who watched all of the games(like people here) would think that this "stat" is disturbing.

i knew it was bad, just not THAT bad.

[redlobster]

Did he play terrible this year ? Yes . is it funny the article brings up rivers , Ryan , and romo and the fact they don't have a super bowl ring. Those three are also known chokers , flacco needs to reign in his unnecessary turnovers, though.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Would still take Flacco over any of them

[ratedr]

Would still take Flacco over any of them

Same.

[runamuk]

Flacco is the qb I want .

[ravensfan520]

I am torn about this... I didn't want to sign him to the big contract knowing that we had to many holes to fill. The offensive line needed help before the season started and the then traded the best wr we have every had. I guess the team thought that pitta could play the role of Boldin. I still don't understand that logic even when Pitta was back the team didn't fair any better... heck the blocking got even worse. Pitta needed Boldin just as must as Joe did.

but now we are stuck with a qb that a cap will continously grow each year leaving less space for other players. I know I am in the minority but I believe that we could have faired this well 8-8 with Taylor as qb. Why because the offense would have been forced to change its scheme and in the offseason. I saw it in the preseason that we were doomed. Yes Flacco won a superbowl but so did the rest of that team and only Flacco got the credit... he was the mvp.

So what do we do... we have an average qb that performs only down the stretch but struggles so much during the game we have to play catch up with a less than stellar offense.

maybe we will get a great couple of steals in the draft... but in all honesty we need more than just a few pieces.

[BirdWatcher]

Would still take Flacco over any of them

Agreed. The only one of those stats I care about are the turnovers, which he needs to rein in next year. A better oline and receivers who fight for the ball will help with that, too.

[Alexir]

No it's true.

I don't really care about completion percentage (because it rewards dink and dunkers) or even the # of TDs to be honest.

I do care however that he's turning the ball over at a ridiculous rate.

 

Flacco isn't a dink and dunker?

[I AM LEGEND]

No it's true.

I don't really care about completion percentage (because it rewards dink and dunkers) or even the # of TDs to be honest.

I do care however that he's turning the ball over at a ridiculous rate.

A dink and dunk completion vs an incomplete pass.....hmmm...

[Yatagarasu]

We set Flacco up for failure this year.

 

Ozzie knows he needs to revamp the offense with some fresh weapons, protections, and some new minds to make Flacco back to his Super Bowl glory days.

 

We all know what Flacco is capable of.

[ratedr]

Flacco isn't a dink and dunker?

lol are you kidding? Flacco used to be a dink and dunker, now he's basically the mad bomber.

[Tank 92]

We set Flacco up for failure this year.

 

Ozzie knows he needs to revamp the offense with some fresh weapons, protections, and some new minds to make Flacco back to his Super Bowl glory days.

 

We all  Some know what Flacco is capable of.

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="Yatagarasu" post="1731939" timestamp="1388614420"] We set Flacco up for failure this year. Ozzie knows he needs to revamp the offense with some fresh weapons, protections, and some new minds to make Flacco back to his Super Bowl glory days. We all know what Flacco is capable of.[/quote]Ozzie figured the oline would be fine since it was the same as last years less Birk . That was a HUGE miscalculation .He loaded up the defense with several busts like Huff,Canty & Spears of which two got released midseason Not a good year at all in terms of Front Office decision making . Yep the Front office set up Flacco for failure !! we should be lucky he's not seriously hurt .

[A Fish Called Yanda]

I do kind of wish we had franchise tagged him after last season and then had contract negotiations with him this year.

 

Would certainly have helped w/ the cap.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Get him a QB coach and fix all the flaws in his game (because there ARE flaws, but thankfully they ARE fixable).

Get him a competent play caller (and don't let Harbs near that person).

Get the WRs a coach who knows how to teach them how to beat press coverage and make quick sharp cuts out of their breaks (no more of this rounding off the route nonsense)

Get an O-line with a blocking scheme that gives them what they need to just be AVERAGE at least.

Get a short yardage game (for both pass and run); enough with constantly taking shots deep and praying for either a completion or a PI--that's lazy, unimaginative coaching (and not even how the Air Coryell is supposed to work, smh)

[NaveSenrag]

I do kind of wish we had franchise tagged him after last season and then had contract negotiations with him this year.

 

Would certainly have helped w/ the cap.

 

Last offseason would have been a cap nightmare.

[Jokerraven]

I am torn about this... I didn't want to sign him to the big contract knowing that we had to many holes to fill. The offensive line needed help before the season started and the then traded the best wr we have every had. I guess the team thought that pitta could play the role of Boldin. I still don't understand that logic even when Pitta was back the team didn't fair any better... heck the blocking got even worse. Pitta needed Boldin just as must as Joe did.

but now we are stuck with a qb that a cap will continously grow each year leaving less space for other players. I know I am in the minority but I believe that we could have faired this well 8-8 with Taylor as qb. Why because the offense would have been forced to change its scheme and in the offseason. I saw it in the preseason that we were doomed. Yes Flacco won a superbowl but so did the rest of that team and only Flacco got the credit... he was the mvp.

So what do we do... we have an average qb that performs only down the stretch but struggles so much during the game we have to play catch up with a less than stellar offense.

maybe we will get a great couple of steals in the draft... but in all honesty we need more than just a few pieces.

yep the best idea was to put tyrod in and they did that and in two mintues he scored 14 points for the opposite team. the flacco bashing gets old. he is paid in line with other qb's and no tyrod would not have won a superbowl that  makes no sense at all . flacco made 6.8 mill this year and next year he will make 14.8 million which is below average for a starting qb in the league. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/joe-flacco/

 

this year was an anomaly anyone knows that if you don't have an oline you can't have a successful offense. it has been repeated over and over . if you have watched any football at all you must know that if a qb is flat on his back with a defender on top of him he will not be able to throw the ball it is not rocket sceince I swear it is very simple .

he was sacked a record 48 times, was hit over 90 times  and hurried three times that .

when the cap it escalates and becomes unmanageable it will be redone. basically it was a three year deal. and everyone knows this but because they are angry and emotional because we did not make the playoffs they are ranting and raving and blaming it all on joe . calm down this is how football works. you want to talk contracts talk about ngata, or suggs and lay off joe for 5 minutes .

[A Fish Called Yanda]

 

 

Last offseason would have been a cap nightmare.

 

 

This is very true - but it would potentially help us from entering a cap nightmare in the coming years when Joe's salary is really going to restrict us (if we don't restructure, that is).

 

But you are completely correct - it's highly unlikely that our defense would have any of the new faces that it currently has if we had tagged him last offseason.  The only question is would being in a cap nightmare for this year be better than what may happen starting in 2016.

[StingerNLG]

Can someone remind me how to put users on the ignore list?   Because anyone who uses the term "Fluko" to describe Flacco and his 5 years of success here does not deserve the time of day.  

 

The Flacco bashing in this city is embarrassing to me as a fan and season ticket holder.   

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Can someone remind me how to put users on the ignore list?   Because anyone who uses the term "Fluko" to describe Flacco and his 5 years of success here does not deserve the time of day.  

 

The Flacco bashing in this city is embarrassing to me as a fan and season ticket holder.   

 

Hover over your name at the top right of the forum and go to "Manage Ignored Users" :D

[ratedr]

I do kind of wish we had franchise tagged him after last season and then had contract negotiations with him this year.

Would certainly have helped w/ the cap.

In the cap for the long term? Yes. But short term? We would've been screwed.

[dhstandard]

For the first few years of his career we would run the ball in the red zone.  Our goal line run game used to be amazing so it's not too worrisome.

 

Completion percentage doesn't mean jack when you toss a bunch of deep balls regularly.  Also how many times have we seen our running backs drop short passes or receivers not making plays on the ball.

 

I was amazed when I saw Marvin Jones on the Bengals make that one handed grab.  I don't remember any of our receivers every doing that.  Only Boldin and Mason.

[Tank 92]

Ozzie figured the oline would be fine since it was the same as last years less Birk . That was a HUGE miscalculation .He loaded up the defense with several busts like Huff,Canty & Spears of which two got released midseason Not a good year at all in terms of Front Office decision making . Yep the Front office set up Flacco for failure !! we should be lucky he's not seriously hurt .

 

 

Not sure how they were to know that Pitta and KO would go down. We were weak in depth, but the cap gives only so much room.  As has been beaten to death, the major investment this year was, out of necessity, in the D.

 

Canty a bust at a $1.5 mil. cap hit?

[ratedr]

Canty was definitely no bust.

[hawkprey]

I hate when people say things like "Tony Romos of the world" when they're referring specifically to Tony Romo. Who are the other Tony Romos that rank over Flacco?