Expectations for Joe Flacco in the offseason

[flynismo]

......and Jacoby and Evans maybe? :D

Haha, I like the way you think! One can only hope...

The more I think about it, the more likely I think Evans is going to happen.
I think Harbaugh tipped his hand....I think we intend on resigning Monroe and moving KO to RT.
Then we take Evans, and grab an OG in the second or third.

[Ravenslifer]

If the O-line gets fixed (getting Monroe locked up long term and getting a good right tackle to replace Oher will be 2 huge helps), and they get him some impact weapons - one TE and a good between the numbers receiver would go a long way (funny how everyone says Flacco has the weapons, yet they have no problem with the Bengals and Steelers drafting a ton of first and second round receivers and still giving Ben and Dalton all the credit).

[flynismo]

That one's a bit tough to smallow.

LOL! I miss the days when our biggest concerns were what our playoff seeding will be and correcting people's grammar!

[cursona pirate]

Get lots of reet.


( any one? Any one? )

I got you. Thats an oldie

[GrimCoconut]

Improve his accuracy, recognize defenses and communicate protection to the OL (hard to say if he struggled here or not), and that's about it.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

enjoy some quality time with his kiddies...

[Bobby]

He should never ever read this forum......   :268213:

[Poes Crows]

Maybe Joe was nicked up. That would explain the regression.

 

Joe will need a solid offensive line to show his best.  Assuming Osemele comes back as good as 2012 that would go a long way, but what about center, right and left tackle?  Anyone trusting Pro Football Source regarding Monroe's rating is deluding themselves. Monroe was not the panacea. We'd be much better off in regard to our cap problems to have a monitored McKinnie lined up next to a healthy Osemele.

 

Which brings me to how to help Joe Flacco topic by reversing the bonehead moves of a G.M.:

 

1. Resign McKinnie to a strict weight and performance based contract;

 

2. Resign Anquan Boldin if the Niners are dumb enough to not value his Possession Function. (They won't be); and

 

3. Resign Ed Reed, Bernard Pollard and cut Cleats Elam.  There's no sense pretending we improved.  For those with a good memory Pollard was easily our leading tackler in 2012 and despite Jacoby Jone's great catch on a drifting ball against the NY Jets, Ed Reed does not get scorched over the top.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

Maybe Joe was nicked up. That would explain the regression.
 
Joe will need a solid offensive line to show his best.  Assuming Osemele comes back as good as 2012 that would go a long way, but what about center, right and left tackle?  Anyone trusting Pro Football Source regarding Monroe's rating is deluding themselves. Monroe was not the panacea. We'd be much better off in regard to our cap problems to have a monitored McKinnie lined up next to a healthy Osemele.
 
Which brings me to how to help Joe Flacco topic by reversing the bonehead moves of a G.M.:
 
1. Resign McKinnie to a strict weight and performance based contract;
 
2. Resign Anquan Boldin if the Niners are dumb enough to not value his Possession Function. (They won't be); and
 
3. Resign Ed Reed, Bernard Pollard and cut Cleats Elam.  There's no sense pretending we improved.  For those with a good memory Pollard was easily our leading tackler in 2012 and despite Jacoby Jone's great catch on a drifting ball against the NY Jets, Ed Reed does not get scorched over the top.

Um no....no.... and no.

just no.

[Bruce_Almty]

Spend his money and chill....that's what Joe Kewl does.

[Tru11]

get healthy and spend time with the new born family clearing his head.

 

tell who ever is in charge of the offense to customize the existing play book to his strengths.

 

study film.

 

get to work with whoever is availeble at WR.

 

take ozzie to a restaurant for a big juicy steak and after the meal give him some indicators on certain positions like lets say WR and o-line that can use some help....

[flynismo]

get healthy and spend time with the new born family clearing his head.

tell who ever is in charge of the offense to customize the existing play book to his strengths.

study film.

get to work with whoever is availeble at WR.

take ozzie to a restaurant for a big juicy steak and after the meal give him some indicators on certain positions like lets say WR and o-line that can use some help....

Meh.....last time Flacco advised Ozzie on WR, we ended up with Doss. Just take Ozzie out for a steak and tell him to do his thing

[Tru11]

Meh.....last time Flacco advised Ozzie on WR, we ended up with Doss. Just take Ozzie out for a steak and tell him to do his thing

 

 

no name just positions lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

perhaps flacco rather have a new RT then see osemele move from  LG to there.

or he rather has pitta in the slot and brown on the outside with torrey.

or perhaps he is more confortable with torrey in the slot and a huge fella on the outside.

 

maybe just subtle things that could view the way the FO look at players slightly favor what flacco wants to do.

 

we always take BPA , but maybe it can now become BPA for the offense orso hahahah.

[Bruce_Almty]

Maybe Joe was nicked up. That would explain the regression.

 

Joe will need a solid offensive line to show his best.  Assuming Osemele comes back as good as 2012 that would go a long way, but what about center, right and left tackle?  Anyone trusting Pro Football Source regarding Monroe's rating is deluding themselves. Monroe was not the panacea. We'd be much better off in regard to our cap problems to have a monitored McKinnie lined up next to a healthy Osemele.

 

Which brings me to how to help Joe Flacco topic by reversing the bonehead moves of a G.M.:

 

1. Resign McKinnie to a strict weight and performance based contract;

 

2. Resign Anquan Boldin if the Niners are dumb enough to not value his Possession Function. (They won't be); and

 

3. Resign Ed Reed, Bernard Pollard and cut Cleats Elam.  There's no sense pretending we improved.  For those with a good memory Pollard was easily our leading tackler in 2012 and despite Jacoby Jone's great catch on a drifting ball against the NY Jets, Ed Reed does not get scorched over the top.

Bringing Jonathan Ogden and Matt Burk back at age 25 would be nice also.

[Ravenslifer]

Meh.....last time Flacco advised Ozzie on WR, we ended up with Doss. Just take Ozzie out for a steak and tell him to do his thing

 

To be fair, the choice was between Doss and 4 other receivers - I can't think of any receivers taken after Doss that did anything.  He might have just been the best of 5 bad choices.  Which is more of a reason that  we should draft a receiver that has a higher upside/chance at success - the fact that Doss was cut, was out of work for a month, then came back because he was good enough to make the receiving corps, and proceeded to do nothing, should tell everyone all they need to know about our current crop of receivers and what Joe has to work with.

[gabefergy]

Get healthy!

[Jokerraven]

Get ready to win superbowl number two.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Agreed - Get completely healthy is the main wish for him. Any player at this stage in a career should definately start (if they haven't already) and stay completely true a physical training regiment that will promote career longivity. Take time to enjoy his family time and don't watch a single playoff game if he can help it.

 

I would also agree with film study whenever possible. Hopefully, he can invite over some of the offensive players from time to time - not for work, but to hangout and chill.

 

And last, but not least, buy a property in a crisis area in Baltimore, build a state of the art technology center, hire some unemployed tech gurus to helpout and give deserving youths somewhere safe to go and prepare for the future.

 

Just a thought-

[frozen joe flacco fan]

We can all agree Joe is now the franchise. He is not one of the elite four QBs in the league and will not be until we resolve the O-line problems. In the off-season, Joe needs to work on the things that are within his control. They area:

 

1) Get rid of the ball sooner;

2) Learn how to check down to relief valve better when other receivers are covered;

3) Develop better timing with his returning core of receivers;

4) Improve his PA handoff fake to sell it to LBs.

 

Its up to Joe to work OT this off-season with Torrey, Marlon, Ray Rice and Dennis to develop timing patterns. Working on #3 will help him with #1. At times, he holds onto the ball too long. 

 

The other thing he needs to work on is stepping up into the pocket but this will not improve until the O-line issues are resolved. Most often his pocket breaks down due to the inside pressure. Organizations of "elite" QBs do not allow their QB to be sacked. At a time when QBs were not protected as an endangered species, the Baltimore Colts offensive line allowed John Constantine Unitas to be sacked a grand total of 74 times in his 17 seasons with the Colts. Do the arithmetic. Our offensive line is simply woefully inadequate.

 

Joe has all the talent and ability to be one of the league's elite QBs. He just needs the right mentor and a better back-up QB who will push him to succeed. With all due respect to Tyrod Taylor, he is not the answer. It is interesting that John Unitas mentored Dan Fouts in his last season in the league. Where's Marc Bulger when you need him?

[edthehead]

I just want joe to be a little more consistent practice,practice,practice,,get healthy and practice some more

[Guest I-70WestRaven]

Drop a little weight? Work on your foot work and pocket mobility. Get healthy of course and study a lot of film. See where your check downs are and don't hold the ball so long, you don't have any time as it is!

[K-Dog]

Let me drive his Vette.

[Tank 92]

Let me drive his Vette.

 

 

"I get a car?.......I get a car!"  lol

[redrum52]

"I get a car?.......I get a car!"  lol

Was no one else a little shocked by that?  Has he never watched the SB before?  It's not like the car to the SB MVP was a new concept.

 

 

We can all agree Joe is now the franchise. He is not one of the elite four QBs in the league and will not be until we resolve the O-line problems. In the off-season, Joe needs to work on the things that are within his control. They area:

 

1) Get rid of the ball sooner;

2) Learn how to check down to relief valve better when other receivers are covered;

3) Develop better timing with his returning core of receivers;

4) Improve his PA handoff fake to sell it to LBs.

 

Its up to Joe to work OT this off-season with Torrey, Marlon, Ray Rice and Dennis to develop timing patterns. Working on #3 will help him with #1. At times, he holds onto the ball too long. 

 

The other thing he needs to work on is stepping up into the pocket but this will not improve until the O-line issues are resolved. Most often his pocket breaks down due to the inside pressure. Organizations of "elite" QBs do not allow their QB to be sacked. At a time when QBs were not protected as an endangered species, the Baltimore Colts offensive line allowed John Constantine Unitas to be sacked a grand total of 74 times in his 17 seasons with the Colts. Do the arithmetic. Our offensive line is simply woefully inadequate.

 

Joe has all the talent and ability to be one of the league's elite QBs. He just needs the right mentor and a better back-up QB who will push him to succeed. With all due respect to Tyrod Taylor, he is not the answer. It is interesting that John Unitas mentored Dan Fouts in his last season in the league. Where's Marc Bulger when you need him?

This gets my seal of approval

[Tank 92]

 

Was no one else a little shocked by that?  Has he never watched the SB before?  It's not like the car to the SB MVP was a new concept.

 

 

 

Shocked?  Amused in a good way would be more appropriate.  Do you think there's something wrong with the way he reacted? I thought it was cool.

 

I'm sure his mind was on a thousand other things, like what just happened? He's a normal guy that just happens to be an NFL franchise QB and he had just won the Superbowl. Judging by his reaction, I doubt the MVP thing meant a whole lot to him at the time, at least he wasn't thinking about it when the guy told him "that's your car".

[Guest Omerta]

It is a pretty involved topic. I think we really need to address his weapons. I have toyed with thigh of just getting a center in the draft. I mean I think Wagner can be a good left guard, move KO to RT, and we should be good. Depending on how the board falls would kind of dictate what we do in the draft.

I would be cool with something like Amaro in the first, Coleman/Beckham or a few other receivers in the second, and Swanson or Bodine in the third.

If we can't get Amaro or Ebron than go with something like Watkins/Evans/Lee on the first, then maybe double dip in the second for WR, then grab our center and then steal a TE in the later rounds.

I would like a new offensive coordinator who will have complete control of the offense, my pick would be Scott frost. After that him and Joe get together and work out some bread and butter plays.

Then get to the grind with him and his receivers. Eat together, watch film together, ride to work together, and get on as many reps as humanly possible in the months and the double that.

[baltimorefan328]

just a side note, for anyone who thinks we need a new quarterback...Andy Dalton's 33 TDs, 4300 yards, and 62% completion percentage got the Bengals a first round exit from the playoffs. As has been mentioned, I don't believe there are that many teams in the league that would rather have their quarterback over Flacco because the dude wins. 

 

But on topic

 

1) Get rid of the ball sooner;

2) Learn how to check down to relief valve better when other receivers are covered;

3) Develop better timing with his returning core of receivers;

4) Improve his PA handoff fake to sell it to LBs.

 

Its up to Joe to work OT this off-season with Torrey, Marlon, Ray Rice and Dennis to develop timing patterns. Working on #3 will help him with #1. At times, he holds onto the ball too long. 

 

 

I think these are they keys. Now I am NOT comparing Flacco to Sanchez, but I remember Sanchez would invite his WRs out to California i believe for a week to go through passing drills and stuff to build chemistry. It would be cool to see Flacco with guys like smith and brown and assuming we resign Pitta hanging out in March or April and just developing chemistry and throwing and catching. Every little bit can help. I think one of Flacco's problems is he keys in on a Wide receiver on a lot of plays, but by him developing 2, 3, or even 4 guys he feels comfortable enough to throw to in any situation could go miles for our offense rather than only Pitta and sometimes Rice being his "security blanket"

[DomMcRaven]

 

 

I think these are they keys. Now I am NOT comparing Flacco to Sanchez, but I remember Sanchez would invite his WRs out to California i believe for a week to go through passing drills and stuff to build chemistry. It would be cool to see Flacco with guys like smith and brown and assuming we resign Pitta hanging out in March or April and just developing chemistry and throwing and catching. Every little bit can help. I think one of Flacco's problems is he keys in on a Wide receiver on a lot of plays, but by him developing 2, 3, or even 4 guys he feels comfortable enough to throw to in any situation could go miles for our offense rather than only Pitta and sometimes Rice being his "security blanket"

I remembered that! I believed Sanchez called it "Jets West." But nonetheless, yes, Flacco needs to do something like that. I really hope he does.

[pmr468]

I'd like to see him get the ball out of his hand faster, not force anything, and throw more to receivers running slants and crossing routes.

[Sami84]

its amazing..he is getting paid 120 mill, its going to be his 7th year in the league and we are still thinking hes going to get better and make better decisions and suddenly develop a better QB vision. Flacco has shown that without a good offenseive line and running game and recievers like boldin and mason he has NO SHOT of taking this team to the high point again. Even with a great range of weapons flacco will NEVER put up impressive numbers because he is  abig play QB, not one that is consistant. 

 

Flacco will NEVER be a 30 touchdowns to 10 interceptions QB for 4000 plus yards. You could give him Julio Jones, Gronk and Aj Green.

 

 

Hes actualy what skip bayless (whom i cant stand) said ''the best worst QB in the NFL''. He has the clutch gene but he isn't that accurate NOR does he have the vision of the likes of Rodgers manning etc