Week 17 - Baltimore Ravens at Cincinnati Bengals

[Claire]

22 INT's to 19 TD's. It happens Peyton threw 27 INT's to 26 TD's in his rookie year. Big Ben threw 20 TD's to 23 INT's. Eli does it every year.

 

What year was it for Ben? 

[Raving_Heathen]

lol the same part of receivers that don't get separation, an OC that calls 2 running plays that gain a net of 1 yd when we're 2 scores down, garbage time, desperation mode INTs that mean nothing other than an opportunity for the haters to talk about INTs, a dismal running game all season.

 

I keep telling the Flacco Haters' Club to name me just one QB who had to deal with everything, including losing their 2 main targets to injuries that had a successful season but the crickets just keep chirping.

 

Not going to lie, if I'm Joe Flacco I'm going into that office and telling them if they don't fix the O line, trade me. Bunch of ungrateful fans on top of media crap, don't know why he stayed here.

 

I've always been a Flacco supporter, but Aaron Rodgers is a guy who's had to deal with playing behind horrible OLs with no run game and injuries everywhere. The Packers may not have always been successful under Rodgers, but his individual stats have always been great.

 

I think people just expected much better individual performance from Flacco after last year's playoff/SB run, despite what the rest of the offense did. Throwing 22 INTs in a season is just not good any way you slice it.

[Ravenslifer]

I'm not and your right. But I've seen the same posters react the same way after a win in the middle of the week.

 

I'm pretty sure I know who you're referring to, but that's just the way some people are.  It makes it that much better when we have success and you get to watch them try and backtrack on their words.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Flacco won several games for us this year . The whole team needs to be revamped because our D Cannot stop anyone late in the game either

Our D stopped opponents plenty. The only game where D let opponents in @ 4th down is from our D staying in field all day.

Something tells me you haven't seen how many time we've gone 3&out this season.

[Claire]

22. Yikes.

 

Thanks.  I didn't know it was so many. 

[The Mom Gene]

Superbowl hangover isnt what causes your $120 Qb to throw 20+ ints. 

No, but a ridiculously gutted O Line does.

[Smothy]

What year was it for Ben? 

It was 18-to-23 TD-to-INT, and it was in 2006.

[ravensdfan]

Where is that money coming from to give joe Flacco that 'supporting cast'??

120M hello??

 

you do know we don't have to hand over $120M next year right? Nor did we hand it over this year right?

 

We've had this conversation before. Rice, Suggs major cap eaters that didn't do their job. Where is your outrage about that?

 

Lose the agenda.

[jravens13]

Pathetic performances in back to back weeks with the chance to clinch a playoff spot with just 1 win. Embarrassing to watch. Only bright spot of this game was Elam. He looks like he's gonna be a solid starter for years to come. I definitely need to get away from football after watching this team for 16 Weeks. I feel like we only played 1 or 2 complete games. We were lucky to win 8 games.  

[Ravenseconbeast]

One stat I want to look up..... They call it a Super Bowl Hangover for a reason..... How many teams have NOT made it to the playoffs the year after winning a Super Bowl....

Can you pay that 30m a year contract of flacco in 2015 for ravens behalf? We'd appreciate it. I root for you to pau his contract

[The Mom Gene]

I've always been a Flacco supporter, but Aaron Rodgers is a guy who's had to deal with playing behind horrible OLs with no run game and injuries everywhere. The Packers may not have always been successful under Rodgers, but his individual stats have always been great.

 

I think people just expected much better individual performance from Flacco after last year's playoff/SB run, despite what the rest of the offense did. Throwing 22 INTs in a season is just not good any way you slice it.

One problem with your theory is that the Packers have "allowed" Rodgers to throw and throw and throw again...  they haven't had to rely on a running game like we have...  Look at his receivers and other offensive weapons.....

 

They unleashed Flacco the end of last season...  he threw the ball consistently....  and we went to the SB

[ravensdfan]

I've always been a Flacco supporter, but Aaron Rodgers is a guy who's had to deal with playing behind horrible OLs with no run game and injuries everywhere. The Packers may not have always been successful under Rodgers, but his individual stats have always been great.

 

I think people just expected much better individual performance from Flacco after last year's playoff/SB run, despite what the rest of the offense did. Throwing 22 INTs in a season is just not good any way you slice it.

 

No the bad OL years his run game was in the Top 10. Someone already tried that.

[Ravenglenn]

Harbs must be proud of the product he put on the field this season

For sure, which Harbaugh is laughing now!

[Raving_Heathen]

Yet he beat them both. Before. Just because he had a down season doesn't mean we discredit what he did before.

 

This. I think Flacco will be great next year.

[Inqui]

One stat I want to look up.....  They call it a Super Bowl Hangover for a reason.....  How many teams have NOT made it to the playoffs the year after winning a Super Bowl....

Take out the Packers who faced 16 cupcakes the next year, and I suspect pretty much all of them recently haven't made it.

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="Ravenseconbeast" post="1725960" timestamp="1388352058"] Our D stopped opponents plenty. The only game where D let opponents in @ 4th down is from our D staying in field all day. Something tells me you haven't seen how many time we've gone 3&out this season.[/quote] I've seen plenty and overall the offense is the major contributor to us missing the playoffs but our D did not make a lot of stops late in close games where we needed one

[Ravenseconbeast]

you do know we don't have to hand over $120M next year right? Nor did we hand it over this year right?

We've had this conversation before. Rice, Suggs major cap eaters that didn't do their job. Where is your outrage about that?

Lose the agenda.

amazingly, not one of those players you mentioned are top 5 worst of there position...which flacco is(#1worst QB statiscally) Suggs was a DPOY candidate until he hit his nerve @ his neck in week10

[Ravenslifer]

What year was it for Ben? 

 

23 in his third, 15 in his fifth - to be fair however Roethlisberger didn't cross 500 passing attempts until his 6th year in the league.  Flacco has something like 22 INTs on 590 attempts, Ben had 15 on about 150 less attempts.

[ravensfan520]

lol the same part of receivers that don't get separation, an OC that calls 2 running plays that gain a net of 1 yd when we're 2 scores down, garbage time, desperation mode INTs that mean nothing other than an opportunity for the haters to talk about INTs, a dismal running game all season.

I keep telling the Flacco Haters' Club to name me just one QB who had to deal with everything, including losing their 2 main targets to injuries that had a successful season but the crickets just keep chirping.

Not going to lie, if I'm Joe Flacco I'm going into that office and telling them if they don't fix the O line, trade me. Bunch of ungrateful fans on top of media crap, don't know why he stayed here.

lets be honest does this year prove to you that he deserves that big contract and that he doesnt need a good team around him... lets be honest we paid the defense but the defense kept us in games the offense didnt and all our offense is tyed to one guy. We were ranked in the top 5 for 3 and out on offense. Yes we couldnt run the ball but could pass either. Even when he go to guy came back the offense still couldn't get back on track.

[Inqui]

One problem with your theory is that the Packers have "allowed" Rodgers to throw and throw and throw again...  they haven't had to rely on a running game like we have...  Look at his receivers and other offensive weapons.....

 

They unleashed Flacco the end of last season...  he threw the ball consistently....  and we went to the SB

Tbh I don't think there's any shame in Flacco not being as good as Rodgers.

[Ed_Reed20]

I've always been a Flacco supporter, but Aaron Rodgers is a guy who's had to deal with playing behind horrible OLs with no run game and injuries everywhere. The Packers may not have always been successful under Rodgers, but his individual stats have always been great.

 

I think people just expected much better individual performance from Flacco after last year's playoff/SB run, despite what the rest of the offense did. Throwing 22 INTs in a season is just not good any way you slice it.

 

Rodgers doesn't put up those statistics by himself. Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Finley, Jennings and Driver (when they were there) aren't slouches. 

 

Joe is by no means Rogers but it would have been difficult for any QB to be prolific with the way the o-line played this season and the lack of weapons. That doesn't absolve Joe of his poor play though. 

[frank21054]

I've seen plenty and overall the offense is the major contributor to us missing the playoffs but our D did not make a lot of stops late in close games where we needed one

Defense was strong until times they were needed because the offense did not get them off the field

[ravensfan520]

Agreed.... it's awful

yes please trade him to someone for there first round pick... ill take bridgewater... even if we get hit with a cap we can build around a qb that can do more than throw a deep ball.

[ravensfan520]

Rodgers doesn't put up those statistics by himself. Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Finley, Jennings and Driver (when they were there) aren't slouches.

Joe is by no means Rogers but it would have been difficult for any QB to be prolific with the way the o-line played this season and the lack of weapons. That doesn't absolve Joe of his poor play though.

so what did the packers do when Rogers went down.

[frank21054]

Tbh I don't think there's any shame in Flacco not being as good as Rodgers.

He sure the heck is paid the same!

[bmore187]

P Manning D Brees Cam Newton Nick Foles Matt Ryan Russell Wilson McCown Aaronn Rodgers Tom Brady Alex Smith  Tannehill Matt Stafford > Flacco

[4everraven]

We better address things when they go wrong in the pre season next year! This year we ignored it and our offense never improved a bit!

[Ravenseconbeast]

Tbh I don't think there's any shame in Flacco not being as good as Rodgers.

How about comparing mark Sanchez to flacco?

Why would you even remotely compare what flacco is doing what Rodgers has done?

[Sir Spooky]

I've always been a Flacco supporter, but Aaron Rodgers is a guy who's had to deal with playing behind horrible OLs with no run game and injuries everywhere. The Packers may not have always been successful under Rodgers, but his individual stats have always been great.

 

I think people just expected much better individual performance from Flacco after last year's playoff/SB run, despite what the rest of the offense did. Throwing 22 INTs in a season is just not good any way you slice it.

Aaron Rodgers is really good and plays in a great offensive system. Look at Matt Flynn, useful in GB and crap everywhere else, pretty much beat out by 2 rookie qbs (I know Pryor isn't a rookie). The system and coaching make a big difference but yea Flacco didn't have a good year.

[Ravensallday24/7]

This. I think Flacco will be great next year.

Depending on the fate of the O-Line, WR's, and Run game this offseason I think so to. We can't be conservative this year in FA and the draft. 

Resign Pitta

See if Jacoby is affordable

Resign Monroe

Restructure Suggs, Rice, and Webb's contract

Draft a new Guard, Center, and Right Tackle

Draft a "Boldin Esq receiver" like Landry from LSU.

Resign Daryl Smith

Let Oher and Ed Dickson walk. 

Draft a RB in a later round

Draft at least 2 WR's

Yes, lots of work this offseason.