Preston Article: Patriots knew plays, offense dysfunctional

[gabefergy]

exactly

His name is Jim Caldwell, perhaps you are confused.

[Jokerraven]

His name is Jim Caldwell, perhaps you are confused.

no I'm not confused time will tell . caldwell isn't responsible for this train wreck of an offense

[Jokerraven]

His name is Jim Caldwell, perhaps you are confused.

and he is a horrid playcaller

[runamuk]

His name is Jim Caldwell, perhaps you are confused.

 

and he is a horrid playcaller

caldwell is not responsible for this train wreck of an offense . 'im not confused

[gabefergy]

and he is a horrid playcaller

I can't say I disagree with that, but it doesn't mean Castillo is calling plays now.

[gabefergy]

caldwell is not responsible for this train wreck of an offense . 'im not confused

Sure.

You know nothing.

[runamuk]

Sure.

You know nothing.

I know a tad more then you . remember you called me confused  when I posted that the scheme had changed you swore it hadn't . I was right about that and I am right about this as well ask yourself why if Caldwell is calling plays why he didn't have a headset on on sunday . .your entitled to you opinion and honestly time will prove either you or I wrong . just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make you right

[Bltravens]

Then why does everyone say he isn't given enough control? Flacvo is very involved in play design and putting together game plans. He has control to audible at the LoS. He isn't calling his own plays outside of the 2 min drill, so maybe we can see more of thst .

This is what I was trying to get.  He needs to do that.  

[runamuk]

I know what I see when Joe is in the no huddle or hurry up he does his best and moves the team THEn he is calling the shots. As an aside this from a Texans player http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/01/antonio-smith-patriots-are-either-spying-on-us-or-scouting-us/

there was an article last year about this same thing from a Miami player I don't recall which one , but within two days he had retracted it I couldn't find the article or link .I wouldn't be surprised .

[redravenfan]

I would be able to swallow that story about the patriots if we were in there house and this happened but we were home . our play calling is that predictable and it  is sad. everyone on the planet knows that "Alaska" means joe is changing the play called

[tolucaraven]

If I can tell I'm sure other football teams can also.

[Jokerraven]

I would be able to swallow that story about the patriots if we were in there house and this happened but we were home . our play calling is that predictable and it  is sad. everyone on the planet knows that "Alaska" means joe is changing the play called

good point

[Moderator 2]

I would be able to swallow that story about the patriots if we were in there house and this happened but we were home . our play calling is that predictable and it  is sad. everyone on the planet knows that "Alaska" means joe is changing the play called

I think we all shake our heads when we hear "Alaska" loll

[AsianRice]

remember this post and you idiotic response.watch  and see

serious dude..don't take joke too well huh...lol

[bmore187]

Our offense is so predictable its laughable......ALASKA ALASKA ( Butt tap ) = Run play every time

[runamuk]

Our offense is so predictable its laughable......ALASKA ALASKA ( Butt tap ) = Run play every time

the ravens fans are smarter then the darn coaches . why don't they see what is so clear to everyone else

[The Raven]

Our offense is so predictable its laughable......ALASKA ALASKA ( Butt tap ) = Run play every time

 

I'm pretty sure Alaska Alaska is just the kill call. I've heard Joe say Alaska and throw it. But I understand you just like being negative! I hope Santa brings you something to cheer you up!

 

Why are you always negative? Did you get coal for Christmas one year?

[omar586]

its nothing new, our offense is and has been predictable,

[Jokerraven]

.

 

run game coordinators wouldn't be calling  the runs in a game the offensive coordinator calls them

 "The Ravens don't have much offensive chemistry.  First-year run game coordinator Juan Castillo changed the terminology in the running and passing game. "

 

Why isn't the oc changing the terminology isn't that his job ,,,,when McKinnie spoke out about what happened with scheme changes he specifically stated that Castillo would not take any input into the changes even when it was  clear the players weren't suited for the new scheme something doesn't pass the smell test. I think Castillo has more input then any of us know.

 

My husband and son went to the game this weekend and when they returned they ask me if Caldwell had been demoted he was in the booth without his headset .

 

I most definitely think this is a coaching issue, I don't understand why we stuck with a scheme this long when it did not fit our personnel and was a dismal failure? they knew in week 5 6 7 8 etc  that it wasn't working. Now two probowl players are made pedestrian. KO rice and joe are now hurt ..... why haven't we gone back to last years winning scheme.

 

another question how come we can shut down megatron and we can't shut down a bunch of rookies .

[T3hRaven]

I wouldn't be surprised if some of his claims were true.  We have seen WAY less no huddle this year than I was expecting, especially after the success in the playoffs.  I attributed it to young guys, but at this point in the season it's like come on.  Clearly we have some issues.

[Ravens1991]

Merry Christmas Ravens Nation.

 

Does anyone else think that 125 plays is not a lot at all for an NFL team on game day? I would have thought there would have been a lot more. Also this is basically confirming what we have seen all year. It looks like Harbaugh is trying to ad a Bo Schembelcher twist to our offense. I wish he would add a Jim Johnson twist to our defense.

[Free Agent]

Wow. Some eye opening information, if it's all true.

[Militant X 1]

Merry Christmas Ravens Nation.

 

Does anyone else think that 125 plays is not a lot at all for an NFL team on game day? I would have thought there would have been a lot more. Also this is basically confirming what we have seen all year. It looks like Harbaugh is trying to ad a Bo Schembelcher twist to our offense. I wish he would add a Jim Johnson twist to our defense.

At least it is for me!  Cam really "appeared" to be the main issue with the offenses lack of production last season.  He gets the boot...we get excited and Caldwell comes in.  We see a few different so-called; "wrinkles" but not much...and we march all the way to the Super Bowl and win.  Now, Cam's gone leading LSU to having a great offense.  And yet, we are still seeing the same ole' b.s. offensive patterns and play calling as when Cam was here.  Why is that?  Someone at the top is controlling things!  This article was very forthtelling to me!  After dropping $120 mil on Flacco; the FO and Coaching staff are still not allowing him to call his own plays! 

 

There is something that they see or don't see in Flacco that won't allow them to do so.  Don't know what it is...but it's something!  Fear of giving him too much control and power?  Maybe!  Not sure and will not speculate on that. I actually like the way that Sean Peyton and Drew Brees scripted their game plan and plays together.  I saw that on an ESPN special months back and it was awesome to see.  Sean asked Drew; "So, which plays do you like?"  And then Drew began to name them and they put them in the game plan.  Perhaps, Flacco doesn't have that type of input that we all assumed he did?

 

#Mili

[MrPlankton]

I think the FO must have forgotten that after you lock up your franchise QB you're supposed to kind of build around him.

[ratedr]

I think the FO must have forgotten that after you lock up your franchise QB you're supposed to kind of build around him.

Pretty much.

If they didn't want to do that they should've let him walk.

[SizzleSuggs55]

This just frustrates me to no end if it's true. You gotta wonder sometimes, i mean you look around the NFL and see these explosive offenses and the ravens cant even generate half of that with a franchise quarterback... 

[LordRavens]

If Ozzie didn't want to build around Joe why would you keep him if you don't think he's your guy?

[jazz1988]

If Ozzie didn't want to build around Joe why would you keep him if you don't think he's your guy?

 

I think the ravens have every intention of building around Joe Flacco and they have try. Honestly I think Flacco  right now has everything he needs to be successful its just that  bad coaching or shold I say play calling has held him back.

[1/28/01]

Poopity poop poop. I think we're playing like poop cause we're coached like poop!

[Chris K]

Maybe it is something at the top. Something being controlled at levels beyond coaching even, that trickles down into his performance on field. Think about it for a second. The Ravens are a very strict organization, and I think because of that, they've never invested too much power into one figure, even with guys like Ray and Ed, we can see that from how they let Ed go and Ray almost walked. That's all fine and dandy and creates a good ethical standing in the league in regards to reputation, but how do we differ from organizations like the Pats, the Saints, the Broncos, etc? We haven't built around Flacco. We stuck to our roots when we shouldn't have. The Ravens took the power from Flacco. We all saw what Flacco can do when the organization has built around his needs and they let him do his thing. It's called 11 TD to 0 INT in four games. We need the organization to forgo the traditional amazing defensive structure and to throw money at the offensive skill positions, because honestly, besides Pitta and maybe Smith, we're not exactly sporting an all star cast there. I think the solution is simple, give Flacco the reigns as THE franchise guy and build the organization around him and his success, we've seen the magic that happens when we do that.