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What is good on offense?

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It's been explained, debated, and stated time and again what is wrong with our offensive play, schemes, and potentials (or lack thereof.)  Is there any good on our offense?  Pray tell.

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It's been explained, debated, and stated time and again what is wrong with our offensive play, schemes, and potentials (or lack thereof.) Is there any good on our offense? Pray tell.

I like their jerseys...

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Any good that exists is camouflaged by our playcalling. Our line calls are bad, so that makes our wide receivers look bad. It makes our running backs look bad. It makes our quarterback look bad (although he's done a decent job of making himself look bad quite a few times now). Overall, until our playcalling and line play gets better, nothing on offense will be good.

 

And that's not to say individual players aren't terrible, but it's all masked by the overall failure of our offense in total.

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Marlon Brown. I think he will be a guy contributing in Baltimore for years to come. The offense has been bad but Marlon is one of the bright spots...

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Marlon Brown. I think he will be a guy contributer in Baltimore for years to come. The offense has been bad but Marlon is one of the bright spots...

I agree with this as Marlon is more of a possession type receiver that we desperately need.  With a bit more experience and game time, he'll be a definite asset to the team.  We can thank Jim Harbaugh for giving the FO and his brother the heads up on this dude.

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Marlon Brown. I think he will be a guy contributer in Baltimore for years to come. The offense has been bad but Marlon is one of the bright spots...

He needs to be further integrated into the offense. Especially in the red zone.  Its a travesty we stopped using him so in the past 2 months.  Dude is 6'5, have him run some slants or throw fades to him and let him out jump guys.

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It's been explained, debated, and stated time and again what is wrong with our offensive play, schemes, and potentials (or lack thereof.)  Is there any good on our offense?  Pray tell.

WR - Smith - our best WR but would be Wallace deadly if set as #2

WR - Jones - Great KR but hit or miss at WR. He has big play ability but not consistent enough to be a relied threat.

WR - Deonte Thompson - Too injured too often

WR - Brown - Big body but only effective consistently in the red zone. Hit or miss on the way to the red zone but can get better.

WR - Doss - not a lot of separation and has flamed out since his break out game earlier this season.

Idea - Draft two new WRs in 2014 and Bring in competition from FA as well to get Flacco improved weapons to help run game.

QB - Flacco - Big Arm guy but can be shaken easily and as seen with the brace, doesnt do well with injury, Still a fran. QB.

QB -Taylor - Only really useful in pistal like offense schemes and plays. great run threat and change up QB to Flacco.

HB - Rice - Great runner but playing injured

HB - Pierce - Great power back but stunted by lack of holes in O-Line

FB - Leach, still a great blocker in the game

FB - Juice - still learning

Oline in general has not been completely solid this year. Ravens should spend one of their top 4 picks on an interior linemen and see if Gino can actually man that front after bringing some other guys in to compete.

TE - Pitta-  was injured

TE - Dickson - Not as consistant as pitta but break run blocker. 

Hopefully we can go heavy on offense in both FA and draft since our defense isnt as bad as it seems. This D could be a lot better if they were playing with a lead or potentially a team that has become one dimensional due to our scoring power.

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We have a lot of good pieces, but not all the pieces, and with all of the injuries nobody's played together consistently enough to really gel.  I think people sometimes take chemistry for granted - for instance, during the Superbowl run, the unit of Joe, Torrey, Q, Ed and Dennis, and Ray, plus the o-line with Oher, Yanda, and Birk, had played almost every game together for 2 seasons plus a playoff run.  This year, guys like Marlon, Tandon, Stoke, Clark, Shipley, Gino, Monroe were all suddenly added to the mix, plus Ed, Dennis, Ray, and Joe have all been injured at some point during the season.  There wasn't the same consistency and chemistry.  It's hard to say Brady's having an off-season after what he did to us on Sunday, but if you look at his season overall, with a bunch of new, inexperienced targets to throw to, he's still having the worst season in quite some time - he might finish with a sub-63 percent completion rate, less than 25 TDs, and a QBR under 90 for the first time since 2006 - chemistry matters a lot.  This team still lacks a real dynamic playmaker on offense - Rice has been that guy in the past, but he's not been the same guy the last few years.  IMO we need to add an over-the middle receiving threat like a TE or WR in the draft, possibly add another running back, then give these guys some time to work together.

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I agree with this as Marlon is more of a possession type receiver that we desperately need. With a bit more experience and game time, he'll be a definite asset to the team. We can thank Jim Harbaugh for giving the FO and his brother the heads up on this dude.

part of the deal for Boldin... a draft pick plus some heads up on some undrafted talent.

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Flacco's ability to make plays with his feet was our only offensive weapon this season. Well, there goes the season... .

That's why I knew we were screwed after that hit. If Flacco can't extend plays with his legs we have no shot.
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I agree with this as Marlon is more of a possession type receiver that we desperately need. With a bit more experience and game time, he'll be a definite asset to the team. We can thank Jim Harbaugh for giving the FO and his brother the heads up on this dude.

Did Jim really?

Boldin would be nice but if we had him we probably don't keep Marlon. Considering that Boldin would've been gone after this year, I can live with that.

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Did Jim really?

Boldin would be nice but if we had him we probably don't keep Marlon. Considering that Boldin would've been gone after this year, I can live with that.

 

That is my understanding!  Jim scouted Marlon in 2008 to see if he'd be a good fit for Stanford.  Brown chose to go to Georgia which is a lot closer to him hometown in Tennessee.

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Marlon Brown. I think he will be a guy contributing in Baltimore for years to come. The offense has been bad but Marlon is one of the bright spots...

Yeah, if they don't trade him...

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The Boldin trade is the only reason we're seeing Marlon on the field.

True, and I like Brown…but I fear they will trade one of the few good offensive players we got...

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Any good that exists is camouflaged by our playcalling. Our line calls are bad, so that makes our wide receivers look bad. It makes our running backs look bad. It makes our quarterback look bad (although he's done a decent job of making himself look bad quite a few times now). Overall, until our playcalling and line play gets better, nothing on offense will be good.

 

And that's not to say individual players aren't terrible, but it's all masked by the overall failure of our offense in total.

We do have good individual talent, but the offense as a whole sucks.  Seems like a coaching issue to me…the overall terrible play.  

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We do have good individual talent, but the offense as a whole sucks. Seems like a coaching issue to me…the overall terrible play.

Coaching is definitely an issue...still can't get over how bad a hire Juan Castillo was.
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Now that Joe's hurt, nothing's good.

He may not have been great, and at times he's been awful, but he was one of our top offensive performers this season.

 

I still don't get the logic of hiring a run game coordinator but not hiring a QB coach (to replace Caldwell now that he's OC)

If Brady and Peyton, having been in this league for 15 years or so, still benefit from having a QB coach on the sideline, then why the hell don't we have one for Joe?

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True, and I like Brown…but I fear they will trade one of the few good offensive players we got...

 

Why?...

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We do have good individual talent, but the offense as a whole sucks. Seems like a coaching issue to me…the overall terrible play.

to be honest I think the offensive design is the problem. We have deep threat guys but a line that cant sustain blocks. Without pitta we really didnt have an underneath guy and even marlon was a hit on miss. The scheme needs to change but can flacco adjust to it. He has never really been great at short throws. He has a big arm. Even if we change to up tempo offense we fizzle out (at least a lot this year) and the drives are halted with little field change. Thats what I liked about taylor he gave options that fit our talent level. He is not a better qb but without that for sure passcatcher like boldin or mason or past heap he looks for the deep ball and chucks it. And this year he was off target a lot.

I would like the scheme to change we have good wrs and if we could adapt and that means Flacco to then this offense can play like the broncos or saints or patriots.

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"offense" from the Greek word to offend or be unwatchable, pedestrian and plain vanilla.

Actually, it is from the Greek word, "Scandalon".  It's where we get our English word, "scandal" from and it really means; to trip or trap one up.  And it means; to draw, entice or to cause one to stumble and fall into sin.

 

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to be honest I think the offensive design is the problem. We have deep threat guys but a line that cant sustain blocks. Without pitta we really didnt have an underneath guy and even marlon was a hit on miss. The scheme needs to change but can flacco adjust to it. He has never really been great at short throws. He has a big arm. Even if we change to up tempo offense we fizzle out (at least a lot this year) and the drives are halted with little field change. Thats what I liked about taylor he gave options that fit our talent level. He is not a better qb but without that for sure passcatcher like boldin or mason or past heap he looks for the deep ball and chucks it. And this year he was off target a lot.

I would like the scheme to change we have good wrs and if we could adapt and that means Flacco to then this offense can play like the broncos or saints or patriots.

I think we just need a better offensive line and thats really the biggest thing. I would like our scheme to remain the same because it fits most of our personnel. What we need is a deeper offensive line that has guys who can jump in when someone goes down(via injury or bad play) and play at a high level like the Patriots and a possession or route running specialist. I would hate to see this fine scheme go just because of a bad season when we lacked the players to run it. This offense will never play like those teams because of the difference at QB but I think it can be just as explosive and fun to watch without the complex playcalling.  

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I think we just need a better offensive line and thats really the biggest thing. I would like our scheme to remain the same because it fits most of our personnel. What we need is a deeper offensive line that has guys who can jump in when someone goes down(via injury or bad play) and play at a high level like the Patriots and a possession or route running specialist. I would hate to see this fine scheme go just because of a bad season when we lacked the players to run it. This offense will never play like those teams because of the difference at QB but I think it can be just as explosive and fun to watch without the complex playcalling.

the biggest problem is we are short on payroll space. We have 2 tackles that are free agents and 2 te and jones. Not to mention the defense with Jones smith and digs. Little cap space who do we resign. And where do we add such playmakers... vets on the decline.

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