Terrell Suggs, where is he?

[mmcclend]

he's being double teamed and chipped.  not too mention, seeing the opposing teams best tackle every week.  Oh yeah and the offense doesnt give the defense any rest so hes probably a little winded as well.  I could be wrong though.

[The Raven]

If the players, the leaders of the team feel like it's the best thing to move on ASAP from this loss and focus on the Bengals, then that's what it is. We only have a few days to get ready for a very good team. Joe is not that limited mentally that he needs to see himself stumble in order to realize he screwed up there. They'll watch the tape regardless, they always do that. You can't just come in and say I'm not watching tapes today, that's usually what teams do the first 1-2 days after a game. You take all that stuff way, way too literal/serious. As if Suggs went to CBS or whoever aired the game and asked them to burn the tape so he wouldn't have to watch it. They'll watch it and find things to correct, but you acting like they need to extensively study every little piece of everything that happened vs the Pats in a short week right before we play the Bengals in our most important game of the year is ridiculous. They don't have time for that, they know what they did wrong and how to fix it. They didn't show up that day, period.

 

And once again, it's not Suggs, stop it already. Canty said the same thing on NFL Network so stop with your "Suggs is bad for this team" agenda. The guy cares more about this team and is more passionate about this team than anybody else on the roster, by far. So calm down with the painting of a bad picture. Or at least go after Canty as well if these comments really bother you. The people in the locker room look at it the same way, they agree with him so maybe you're just wrong here. Could that possibly be?

 

Okay, so Canty's being a bad leader too. I don't have an agenda, just calling it how I see it, bud.

 

Just because other players on the team say the same thing doesn't mean it's right lol. That just shows the complete lack of leadership and direction on this team.

[The Raven]

What can you learn from lack of effort? If its a technique problem or recognition/missed assignment, sure.

 

They need to watch their piss poor effort on the tape to learn how damn sorry they looked.

 

They played with horrid technique too, so there's that.

[Bullrush]

Okay, so Canty's being a bad leader too. I don't have an agenda, just calling it how I see it, bud.

 

Just because other players on the team say the same thing doesn't mean it's right lol. That just shows the complete lack of leadership and direction on this team.

 

Now you can throw Jimmy Smith in there as well:

 

 

"We've already forgot about it," Smith said. "That's the NFL. Things like that happen. We've moved on to the Bengals."

 

Face it, you're out of line here. Nobody agrees with you and you still feel like whatever you say or feel is the only way to fix things. Yet all the players disagree. Unless you're trying to say you're right and the entire organization is wrong for not knowing how to respond to a loss. And that's kind of ridiculous.

[The Raven]

Now you can throw Jimmy Smith in there as well:

 

 

Face it, you're out of line here. Nobody agrees with you and you still feel like whatever you say or feel is the only way to fix things. Yet all the players disagree. Unless you're trying to say you're right and the entire organization is wrong for not knowing how to respond to a loss. And that's kind of ridiculous.

 

Is it unreasonable to assume that a lack of leadership is responsible for the lesser play this season? Wow! Look at it! We're probably not going to make the playoffs despite retaining most of the core of our our team. What changed? We lost LEADERS. Boldin, Ray, Birk, Reed. Yeah, their play was declining but their leadership was invaluable. They're gone and now look! Looking at the comments made by players and the results on the field, I'm convinced that a lack of good leadership is an issue we're facing. Take the purple shades off.

 

By the way, Ray Lewis agrees with that I'm saying... ;)  :268213:

[gabefergy]

Is it unreasonable to assume that a lack of leadership is responsible for the lesser play this season? Wow! Look at it! We're probably not going to make the playoffs despite retaining most of the core of our our team. What changed? We lost LEADERS. Boldin, Ray, Birk, Reed. Yeah, their play was declining but their leadership was invaluable. They're gone and now look! Looking at the comments made by players and the results on the field, I'm convinced that a lack of good leadership is an issue we're facing. Take the purple shades off.

By the way, Ray Lewis agrees with that I'm saying... ;) :268213:

I think its unreasonable to assume a lack of leadership based on these particular comments.

The NFL is about moving forward and getting better, not about dwelling on the past. Mistakes will be addressed either way.

[The Raven]

I think its unreasonable to assume a lack of leadership based on these particular comments.

The NFL is about moving forward and getting better, not about dwelling on the past. Mistakes will be addressed either way.

 

Would Manning, Rodgers, Ray, or Brees ever suggest the things Suggs/Canty/Jimmy did?

 

How do you guys think Harbaugh feels about his players saying they should burn the film? What would Belichick think if his players said that?

 

Just saying, the results and the comments indicate a lack of leadership. 

[Bullrush]

Is it unreasonable to assume that a lack of leadership is responsible for the lesser play this season? Wow! Look at it! We're probably not going to make the playoffs despite retaining most of the core of our our team. What changed? We lost LEADERS. Boldin, Ray, Birk, Reed. Yeah, their play was declining but their leadership was invaluable. They're gone and now look! Looking at the comments made by players and the results on the field, I'm convinced that a lack of good leadership is an issue we're facing. Take the purple shades off.

 

By the way, Ray Lewis agrees with that I'm saying... ;)  :268213:

 

Has nothing to do with a lack of leadership, in my opinion. The Jets have Ed Reed, I don't see them suddenly becoming a contender because of that added leadership. The reason we're struggling is because we just don't have as good a team we had last year. That's it. Our passing game has been awful, Joe is struggling, he's not the MVP type QB he was late last season and in the playoffs especially, and that has nothing to do with a lack of leadership. Pitta is/was gone, he's banged up. Boldin is gone. The O-Line is horrible, not because we lack Birk's leadership but because we lack a decent center to block. Ray is gone, it's not that we miss his leadership but his play on the field and his film room work (I guess you can consider THAT leadership, a little), stuff that he points out offenses try to do with his incredible experience.

 

It's not about leadership, our roster just isn't the same anymore, the players just don't play as well as they have. And that's on them, it's not about leadership. Flacco needs to play a lot better. Whether Reed or Ray is in that locker room won't change a thing. Flacco has struggled last season (that first half) when all those guys were here, it didn't make a difference. Suddenly he became a different guy when it was time to play for a big contract.

[gabefergy]

Would Manning, Rodgers, Ray, or Brees ever suggest the things Suggs/Canty/Jimmy did?

 

How do you guys think Harbaugh feels about his players saying they should burn the film? What would Belichick think if his players said that?

 

Just saying, the results and the comments indicate a lack of leadership. 

I can't say, but it wouldnt surprise me if any of those players would say that. It's not a new phrase by any stretch of the imagination. I have heard a lot of players and coaches say the same thing after bad losses.

[PurpleReign92]

If we make the Playoffs Suggs will be there and give us that 125% of the edge. 

[redlobster]

If we make the Playoffs Suggs will be there and give us that 125% of the edge.

Lol he is a major reason this team didn't have a chance vs cincy today

[rmw10]

Still missing.

[The Raven]

Bloody absent, that's where he was today.

[GrimCoconut]

Let's be fair and call out Dumervil as well. He was invisible just as much.

[Challenge Accepted]

I thought that perhaps he was saving his amazing pass-rushing skills for the playoffs.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Can't find our pass rushers anywhere

[Cville-Raven]

He might have to go. He's getting older an has completely disappeared for quite a few weeks.

[zwerrell]

Where is he? In Ozzie's office talking restructure or termination.

[Bltravens]

Let's be fair and call out Dumervil as well. He was invisible just as much.

I don't know who was more invisible the last 9 weeks, him or Suggs.  Both were about as useless as they come.

[GrimCoconut]

I thought that perhaps he was saving his amazing pass-rushing skills for the playoffs.

Lol I love Suggs and this made me laugh

[berad]

He and Dumervil, our two high-paid pass rushers, were basically invisible in the last month and a half of the season.

[Guest Im An Ozzie Newsome Guy]

See ya, T-Sizzle! You can take your conspiracy theorist ways to Arizona or something! Plus, even if he didn't do anything these last 8 games, what's more concerning is the fact that he never stepped-up and be a leader on defense...

 

Look, I'm sorry; I know the above is not a popular opinion. However, I would much rather have the Ravens invest that money on the future (i.e. Arthur Jones) than someone who never showed-up when it mattered (except for the Dolphins game). Heck, there's a really good chance he never is going to come close to playing at his 2011, DPoY level, again.

[GrimCoconut]

See ya, T-Sizzle! You can take your conspiracy theorist ways to Arizona or something! Plus, even if he didn't do anything these last 8 games, what's more concerning is the fact that he never stepped-up and be a leader on defense...

Look, I'm sorry; I know the above is not a popular opinion. However, I would much rather have the Ravens invest that money on the future (i.e. Arthur Jones) than someone who never showed-up when it mattered (except for the Dolphins game). Heck, there's a really good chance he never is going to come close to playing at his 2011, DPoY level, again.

I think it would be foolish to cut Suggs but I think we should let him play out his contract and see what happens since both he and McPhee are free agents the same year.

[Ed_Reed20]

He and Dumervil, our two high-paid pass rushers, were basically invisible in the last month and a half of the season.

 

Garbage. It's unfortunate there aren't any high-upside pass rushers behind them. 

[Gordo52]

He and Dumervil, our two high-paid pass rushers, were basically invisible in the last month and a half of the season.

Very disappointing.

[berad]

Garbage. It's unfortunate there aren't any high-upside pass rushers behind them.

McPhee is probably closest to that and he has not had a good season since his rookie one. Injuries have contributed, sure, but it's either Suggs/Dumervil or no one. And it was no one from before Thanksgiving to now.

[GrimCoconut]

McPhee is probably closest to that and he has not had a good season since his rookie one. Injuries have contributed, sure, but it's either Suggs/Dumervil or no one. And it was no one from before Thanksgiving to now.

Perhaps we'll see Simon turn into a beast

[Ed_Reed20]

McPhee is probably closest to that and he has not had a good season since his rookie one. Injuries have contributed, sure, but it's either Suggs/Dumervil or no one. And it was no one from before Thanksgiving to now.

 

Indeed. I'm anticipating/hoping the FO focuses on rebuilding the O in the draft, so Suggs and Doom might be back. Hopefully, the offense can get ahead a bit next year and allow them to tee off. 

[berad]

Perhaps we'll see Simon turn into a beast

Didn't see enough - or really anything - in the defense so I can't call it. He was hailed as an extremely hard worker so I wouldn't be surprised if he's much improved and more involved in 2014.

[berad]

Indeed. I'm anticipating/hoping the FO focuses on rebuilding the O in the draft, so Suggs and Doom might be back. Hopefully, the offense can get ahead a bit next year and allow them to tee off.

We've been very D-heavy these past few drafts and it showed. They were very good for the most part. Now we need to return the favor to the offense and solidify the offensive line - and hold on to Pitta if we can and he's healed.