What Do You Think of Ray Lewis's Comments?

[gabefergy]

Where did I say put up numbers?  I just don't want to see the picks.  Even with Brown running the wrong route, Smith was still wide open and wasn't it just 1st down?  

Ok, so what's your point then? What QB has been successful with no weapons, no run game, no protection? 

 

If Brown runs the correct route he has an easy gain. Smith was just a check down, you cant possible expect Flacco to know Brown was going to run the wrong route...

[Militant X 1]

You want an example? Calling himself the general during his "last ride" that he shoved down everyone's throat. All he could talk about in the post season was his last ride and how he was the general. It's one thing for Suggs and co. to call Ray the general, but for Ray to call himself the general is pretty conceited. Another one, one that I've already said, is how he inserts himself into the stories he "analyzes." He called out our leadership a month or so ago and then brought up his own leadership. If that's not self-serving, I don't know what is.

are you serious brah?  of course Ray was the "general".  he was the lone player of the "original" Ravens that was formed in 96' so really, that should be understood why that title or designation was used for him whether from himself or others.  Deion called himself "primetime," Michael Irvin called himself, "the playmaker".  seriously Raven, don't sweat the small stuff brah cause life is too short!  lol!  this fan base is really disheartening at times.  to see how cats in here have completely flipped the script on Ray Lewis from being our beloved, revered and main motivational and emotional leader of our team...the once face and anchor of the franchise for 17 years that inspired us all with his fierce work ethic and passion for the game and his "last ride" statement last season to now being despised as a "rookie" analyst.  wow!  just wow!  unbelievable but no surprise cause Ed Reed is receiving the same treatment.  it's a damn shame!  smh!

 

#Mili

[BmoreBird22]

 

   He was most likely asked SPECIFICALLY about Joe Flacco ... A guy he knows very well - Of course he's expected to reflect on his own experiences: +, you act like Ray went on and on about himself, all he did was "I" - he was never talking about himself at all ...

 

  Again, you are going by the textbook - Ray is ONE YEAR removed from playing and he was asked about his team / teammates , being expected to talk about HIS experiences, what is so hard to understand about that?

He was asked about Joe Flacco, not what would be different for Flacco if Ray still played.

[Militant X 1]

 

 

All his comments are circled back around to him, for example, his comments about how the bully scandal down in Miami doesn't happen if he's there. Why did he need to say that if he was not apart of the team and will not be for the foreseeable future? We don't see Ray Rice, the face of anti-bullying in Baltimore, getting crazed about it, yet Lewis took a very tough subject and just turned it to himself.

 

London Fletcher of the Redskins said the same thing!  c'mon man!  this ain't that deep or serious!  lol!

 

#Mili

[redrum52]

Ok, so what's your point then? What QB has been successful with no weapons, no run game, no protection? 

 

If Brown runs the correct route he has an easy gain. Smith was just a check down, you cant possible expect Flacco to know Brown was going to run the wrong route...

Don't act like nothing is working for him.  The line isn't that bad and neither are his wr options.  The run game has been terrible, but pass protection has been improving and sometimes, he just waits too long to pass.

[BmoreBird22]

 

London Fletcher of the Redskins said the same thing!  c'mon man!  this ain't that deep or serious!  lol!

 

#Mili

I don't think it's necessary at all for a player to comment on an organization like that. I wouldn't have a problem if they said they need leadership, but I hate when players bring it back around to themselves. I hate any player being cocky and trying to raise themselves up. Let your play do the talking.

[Strength.52]

 

 

All his comments are circled back around to him, for example, his comments about how the bully scandal down in Miami doesn't happen if he's there. Why did he need to say that if he was not apart of the team and will not be for the foreseeable future? We don't see Ray Rice, the face of anti-bullying in Baltimore, getting crazed about it, yet Lewis took a very tough subject and just turned it to himself.

 

   I'm not sure what comment you're referring to, so I'm not going to address matter-of-factly. If Ray did mention himself when asked about the Dolphins situation AND the question was not "Would that have happened with your team" or some other question where Ray had to specifically talk about himself, then OK that would be one instance where Ray made it about himself when he didn't need to ... 

  

    Him flashing his card w/ the Brooks hit helped his employer - ESPN - because it got people to tune in ... So, he's just doing what ESPN want him to do. He also did that because he feels very strongly against where the game is headed and by bringing attention to the hit through what he said, more people are coming out and saying similar things, so he didn't do that "waving the card" thing for himself - he did it for the station he did it for and to bring support for defenders 

[BmoreBird22]

Don't act like nothing is working for him.  The line isn't that bad and neither are his wr options.  The run game has been terrible, but pass protection has been improving and sometimes, he just waits too long to pass.

The line is still in the bottom 10 of the league according to PFF, and the receivers that they have ranked (Torrey, Jacoby, and Doss) rank 46, 45, and 81 respectively.

[redrum52]

The line is still in the bottom 10 of the league according to PFF, and the receivers that they have ranked (Torrey, Jacoby, and Doss) rank 46, 45, and 81 respectively.

Ok.  Where has Flacco ranked the past 3 years in the league then?  Can you also give me the number on the o line the past 3 years?

[BmoreBird22]

   I'm not sure what comment you're referring to, so I'm not going to address matter-of-factly. If Ray did mention himself when asked about the Dolphins situation AND the question was not "Would that have happened with your team" or some other question where Ray had to specifically talk about himself, then OK that would be one instance where Ray made it about himself when he didn't need to ... 

  

    Him flashing his card w/ the Brooks hit helped his employer - ESPN - because it got people to tune in ... So, he's just doing what ESPN want him to do. He also did that because he feels very strongly against where the game is headed and by bringing attention to the hit through what he said, more people are coming out and saying similar things, so he didn't do that "waving the card" thing for himself - he did it for the station he did it for and to bring support for defenders 

It was on ESPN on Monday night kickoff. I remember it. They were all just talking about the situation, and Ray circled it right back to him. It was not directly addressed at him or his leadership. It was more of just they started talking about it, not really a question.

Look, I feel strongly about it, too, and i hated the call, but Lewis took a way of brining it back to him about how much he hated it and about how much he thought it was wrong and about how he would pay because he felt it was the wrong call. He made a huge show of it when he not only got his card out, but held it above his head.

[BmoreBird22]

Ok.  Where has Flacco ranked the past 3 years in the league then?  Can you also give me the number on the o line the past 3 years?

Offensive line, 12 last year, 17th the year before. 

Joe was in the bottom half of the league for all three years, including this one, but I'm not sure that PFF actually adjusts to the level of receivers or offensive line play. That would be something to check out, and I'll see if I can find it.

[flynismo]

Where did I say put up numbers? I just don't want to see the picks. Even with Brown running the wrong route, Smith was still wide open and wasn't it just 1st down?

Some of Flaccos best games this season weren't necessarily big games, but he didn't turn the ball over.

I understand where you are coming from, I really do...the picks are the one thing that has bothered me with Flacco this season, and nothing else.

However, do you realize that our running game is bad on a HISTORIC level? That Flacco is the second most sacked QB in the league? That our team is currently 4th in percentage of dropped passes?
Its not like we just have solid but not great players -- Flacco is being practically sabotaged out there.

How frustrated must he be knowing that if he doesn't make a play, nobody else will? I alluded to this last week...I believe he is taking more risks because there is no other reasonable option. You can't just throw the ball away or eat the sack nearly every time you drop back to pass.

And that is why Rays comments are so deluded when he says he can't get it done without everyone else to bail him out.

[wayne]

Have you seen espn for the last 10 years? Lol!

 

Sportscenter has been that bad?Matter of opinion. Just b/c they don't share the same view as you on a particular player or team don't make them bad.

Not necessarily, because the majority of people that tune in to ESPN are mindless sheep who are just drawn to big names, and ESPN basically has the monopoly on sports news. If you want sports news on TV, you go to ESPN. People go "Oh hey, Ray Lewis is on ESPN, let's check that out." That's why it works. Big names = Big ratings. Simple!

 

You really believe this? So you feel that majority of the people that look at ESPN are just dumb, do you factor yourself in that? Another opinion but it's many people out there like me and you that don't get drawn into something b/c it's a big name. These big names you are referring to like Ray and others know way more about the sport that we will ever know. Not only will they know more, they lived it.

Who says it's the truth? Birk has an entirely different view. Or do we only value the opinion of the one who parrots our own opinion?

 

Let's be frank, that defense in 2012, the one that gave up the most points in a successful playoff run ever, wasn't carrying the man who threw 11 TDs and 0 INTs in the post season.

 

And that regular season defense, wasn't carrying anyone either.

 

He made the bus brawl somehow all about him being gone and now the Ravens' struggles are all about him not being here to help the defense bail the offense out. At some point you have to admit it is an ego trip to some extent.

 

Can you post Birks comments and like I said, everyone don't just speak what they feel b/c they don't want to be controversial. I know people like this in real life and no matter how bad someone is or something is, they will always try to say the political correct response so they can stay neutral. Also, say what you want about that 2012 D but they came up when they had too on Flaccos stretch. It's easy to remember Flacco's stretch b/c we have never seen that stretch b4 by Flacco but we have seen our D many times come up with stops.

You mean the way Skip Bayless kills ratings?

Actually, that's a pretty good comparison for what Ray is coming off as...

 

Skip actually is one of the reasons why people tune into ESPN. Say what you want b/c Skip always talk down on Flacco which this is yall main issue really ( lol ) but if he were that bad, they would have been replaced him.

Oh wow. Flacco gift wrapped Ray his second SB, and embarrassed Reed yesterday...I think they can both kiss Flacco$s rear end for carrying both of them to and through the SB.

So Flacco did it all by himself, eh? You guys crack me up...... when Flacco screws up it's a team sport but when he does good Flacco put the team on his shoulders. I'm done man, Flacco is the best QB ever,lol.

[wayne]

If anyone has earned the right to speak their mind about the team its Ray. 

Not if it's speaking the truth about Flacco, sheesh!

[flynismo]

are you serious brah? of course Ray was the "general". he was the lone player of the "original" Ravens that was formed in 96' so really, that should be understood why that title or designation was used for him whether from himself or others. Deion called himself "primetime," Michael Irvin called himself, "the playmaker". seriously Raven, don't sweat the small stuff brah cause life is too short! lol! this fan base is really disheartening at times. to see how cats in here have completely flipped the script on Ray Lewis from being our beloved, revered and main motivational and emotional leader of our team...the once face and anchor of the franchise for 17 years that inspired us all with his fierce work ethic and passion for the game and his "last ride" statement last season to now being despised as a "rookie" analyst. wow! just wow! unbelievable but no surprise cause Ed Reed is receiving the same treatment. it's a damn shame! smh!

#Mili

I don't understand why people turned on Ed, but Ray is bringing this on himself. I love him to death, see my sig....but he deserves all the heat he gets. As the face of this franchise for so long, a little bit of loyalty to the people who carried him to retirement the right way isn't much to ask for. Instead, we get to hear about how Sweet Pea never would have happened if he were there. Riiight...

[BmoreBird22]

 

Not if it's speaking the truth about Flacco, sheesh!

Fact still remains that it's not the truth.

[wayne]

Don't act like nothing is working for him.  The line isn't that bad and neither are his wr options.  The run game has been terrible, but pass protection has been improving and sometimes, he just waits too long to pass.

You don't look at the game as well as I don't so you can't say that. Joe has 0 help. All his Wrs suck, all his Tes and lineman suck. Even when Ray Rice had a good game against the Bears, he contributed to Flaccos bad decisions somehow .

[Ravenseconbeast]

I understand where you are coming from, I really do...the picks are the one thing that has bothered me with Flacco this season, and nothing else.

However, do you realize that our running game is bad on a HISTORIC level? That Flacco is the second most sacked QB in the league? That our team is currently 4th in percentage of dropped passes?
Its not like we just have solid but not great players -- Flacco is being practically sabotaged out there.

How frustrated must he be knowing that if he doesn't make a play, nobody else will? I alluded to this last week...I believe he is taking more risks because there is no other reasonable option. You can't just throw the ball away or eat the sack nearly every time you drop back to pass.

And that is why Rays comments are so deluded when he says he can't get it done without everyone else to bail him out.

 

When the salary cap tightens up next year and the years after that(which it will).   What do you realistically expect us seeing to help Joe?  The dude is a 120m QB.  His agent (Linta) and Joe made sure they were paid the highest money possible.   Now its time for him to be that highest calibur QB that he is paid to be.   

Whether you like it or not, this is what Joe will be given for the next 5-6 years if he miraculously stays here that long.   He is paid like Brees, Rodgers.   To be the hardest working man in the facility.  To be the first and last person to leave everyday.  To make weapons and develop the offense by himself.   B/C thats what 120m is paid to do.   

 

Is that the fact or not?  Or am i being a 'hater'?   

Joe only has one choice for him.   He needs to get better, better enough to carry this offense himself from now on.   There won't be stacked FAs to help him.   And you know this is the truth.

[wayne]

I don't understand why people turned on Ed, but Ray is bringing this on himself. I love him to death, see my sig....but he deserves all the heat he gets. As the face of this franchise for so long, a little bit of loyalty to the people who carried him to retirement the right way isn't much to ask for. Instead, we get to hear about how Sweet Pea never would have happened if he were there. Riiight...

Little bit of loyalty in your terms is lie about how he analyze Flacco? Ray should have lied I guess and said Flacco is on the same level as Manning and Brady and that Flacco is just now making these mistakes.

[wayne]

When the salary cap tightens up next year and the years after that(which it will).   What do you realistically expect us seeing to help Joe?  The dude is a 120m QB.  His agent (Linta) and Joe made sure they were paid the highest money possible.   Now its time for him to be that highest calibur QB that he is paid to be.   

Whether you like it or not, this is what Joe will be given for the next 5-6 years if he miraculously stays here that long.   He is paid like Brees, Rodgers.   To be the hardest working man in the facility.  To be the first and last person to leave everyday.  To make weapons and develop the offense by himself.   B/C thats what 120m is paid to do.   

 

Is that the fact or not?  Or am i being a 'hater'?   

Joe only has one choice for him.   He needs to get better, better enough to carry this offense himself from now on.   There won't be stacked FAs to help him.   And you know this is the truth.

I don't think Flacco will see all that money, my personal opinion. If his play doesn't change, it will be soon.

[wayne]

 

 

Fact still remains that it's not the truth.

 

Keep drinking the purple koolaid and smoking the purple kush. The proof is in the pudding and we will see the rest of the season out.

[BmoreBird22]

Sportscenter has been that bad?Matter of opinion. Just b/c they don't share the same view as you on a particular player or team don't make them bad.

 

You really believe this? So you feel that majority of the people that look at ESPN are just dumb, do you factor yourself in that? Another opinion but it's many people out there like me and you that don't get drawn into something b/c it's a big name. These big names you are referring to like Ray and others know way more about the sport that we will ever know. Not only will they know more, they lived it.

 

Can you post Birks comments and like I said, everyone don't just speak what they feel b/c they don't want to be controversial. I know people like this in real life and no matter how bad someone is or something is, they will always try to say the political correct response so they can stay neutral. Also, say what you want about that 2012 D but they came up when they had too on Flaccos stretch. It's easy to remember Flacco's stretch b/c we have never seen that stretch b4 by Flacco but we have seen our D many times come up with stops.

 

Skip actually is one of the reasons why people tune into ESPN. Say what you want b/c Skip always talk down on Flacco which this is yall main issue really ( lol ) but if he were that bad, they would have been replaced him.

So Flacco did it all by himself, eh? You guys crack me up...... when Flacco screws up it's a team sport but when he does good Flacco put the team on his shoulders. I'm done man, Flacco is the best QB ever,lol.

When I first got into sports, I used to watch ESPN and use them as a resource because I didn't know any better. I got my information from them and kinda went along with it because someone one TV said it and they were a big name. I was very wishy-washy until I started my own research. ESPN provides a great outlet for new sports viewers or casual sports viewers who don't have the time to put in massive amounts of research and just need a quick tidbit, but those people will only want to get that information if it's from a big name. They can get any small tidbit at work, but it means more to them if Ray Lewis, one of the best to ever play, says it.

Skip Bayless is an absolute idiot who just stirs the pot. He creates controversy, and plenty of it, by being dumb. He's doing his job of getting people to talk. He's not credible at all, but he does get people talking.

The defense didn't do a ton in the playoffs. They made the memorable Super Bowl stop, but that was after they allowed how many points to happen for the 49ers? They surrendered 10 fourth quarter leads that season, so not really sure they "came up when they needed to".

[The Raven]

Sportscenter has been that bad?Matter of opinion. Just b/c they don't share the same view as you on a particular player or team don't make them bad.

 

You really believe this? So you feel that majority of the people that look at ESPN are just dumb, do you factor yourself in that? Another opinion but it's many people out there like me and you that don't get drawn into something b/c it's a big name. These big names you are referring to like Ray and others know way more about the sport that we will ever know. Not only will they know more, they lived it.

 

 

Yeah, I do, and no, I don't watch ESPN. It's garbage. 

[flynismo]

Sportscenter has been that bad?Matter of opinion. Just b/c they don't share the same view as you on a particular player or team don't make them bad.

You really believe this? So you feel that majority of the people that look at ESPN are just dumb, do you factor yourself in that? Another opinion but it's many people out there like me and you that don't get drawn into something b/c it's a big name. These big names you are referring to like Ray and others know way more about the sport that we will ever know. Not only will they know more, they lived it.

Can you post Birks comments and like I said, everyone don't just speak what they feel b/c they don't want to be controversial. I know people like this in real life and no matter how bad someone is or something is, they will always try to say the political correct response so they can stay neutral. Also, say what you want about that 2012 D but they came up when they had too on Flaccos stretch. It's easy to remember Flacco's stretch b/c we have never seen that stretch b4 by Flacco but we have seen our D many times come up with stops.

Skip actually is one of the reasons why people tune into ESPN. Say what you want b/c Skip always talk down on Flacco which this is yall main issue really ( lol ) but if he were that bad, they would have been replaced him.
So Flacco did it all by himself, eh? You guys crack me up...... when Flacco screws up it's a team sport but when he does good Flacco put the team on his shoulders. I'm done man, Flacco is the best QB ever,lol.

You missed my point of the Skip comment. People tune in because he is a shock jock, not a journalist or a real commentator.

And unless you think it was Rice and the fearsome 17th ranked defense, yes, I would say Flacco is the primary reason we won the SB. You dont have to agree. His SB mvp does the talking.

And btw, sure, some people say the "right" thing whether they believe it or not. Then there are others who are egomaniacal narcissists who thinks the universe revolves around them and will spin anything to reflect that.

[BmoreBird22]

Keep drinking the purple koolaid and smoking the purple kush. The proof is in the pudding and we will see the rest of the season out.

Read the opening comment I made. Fact remains that no quarterback can do it alone. Is Flacco playing amazing? No, but he does not have the pieces around him to be great. Put any other quarterback in this situation and they will also struggle.

By the way, I am the biggest supporter of the defense. I own three jerseys, soon to be more, and they are all defensive players. I love Jimmy Smith, in case you couldn't tell, but I realize that the defense has been a let down in plenty of situations, like the past six games before the Jets game.

[wayne]

Yeah, I do, and no, I don't watch ESPN. It's garbage. 

In your opinion but what makes them garbage? It's not like they doing rocket scientist type of work, they are speaking their opinions and some factual stuff about a simple game of football? Only thing other segments do like NFLN is they go further in detail with the PB stuff but even then, the stuff they are showing is not Eistein material. If anyone has played sports before, you don't need them to explain to you how a cover 2 is played or cover 3, football is simple man,lol.

[wayne]

You missed my point of the Skip comment. People tune in because he is a shock jock, not a journalist or a real commentator.

And unless you think it was Rice and the fearsome 17th ranked defense, yes, I would say Flacco is the primary reason we won the SB. You dont have to agree. His SB mvp does the talking.

Him being a vital part of helping us win the SB last season, what does that have to do with this season? Y'all going forgive all of Flacco present and future miscues off of that one moment in his career?

[BmoreBird22]

 

In your opinion but what makes them garbage? It's not like they doing rocket scientist type of work, they are speaking their opinions and some factual stuff about a simple game of football? Only thing other segments do like NFLN is they go further in detail with the PB stuff but even then, the stuff they are showing is not Eistein material. If anyone has played sports before, you don't need them to explain to you how a cover 2 is played or cover 3, football is simple man,lol.

If it's truly that simple, why aren't you being paid to talk about it or play it? Why not coach it at the professional level instead of just saying you understand a cover 2 or 3, instead of proving it.

Oh, that's right, because there's a lot of intricacies and fine details. Things you wouldn't get.

[wayne]

Read the opening comment I made. Fact remains that no quarterback can do it alone. Is Flacco playing amazing? No, but he does not have the pieces around him to be great. Put any other quarterback in this situation and they will also struggle.

By the way, I am the biggest supporter of the defense. I own three jerseys, soon to be more, and they are all defensive players. I love Jimmy Smith, in case you couldn't tell, but I realize that the defense has been a let down in plenty of situations, like the past six games before the Jets game.

So if you put Rodgers in Flaccos position, you actually think he would struggle? Or someone like Russel Wilson or Cam?

[BmoreBird22]

 

So if you put Rodgers in Flaccos position, you actually think he would struggle? Or someone like Russel Wilson or Cam?

I didn't say it because I was kidding.