What Do You Think of Ray Lewis's Comments?

[gabefergy]

What has Brady had around him, especially at the beginning of this season and a few times throughout his career. Brady is probably the best QB to make something happen with barely having anything.

3rd greatest WR in the history of the NFL and a guy named Wes Welker who caught more passes than any other WR over a 6 year span in the history of the NFL. I'm sure Brady could do the same thing with 35 year old Derrick Mason though. Before that Brady didn't have great weapons and guess what, his numbers are eerily similar to Flacco's.

[Tank 92]

Speaking more to the subject of Ray Lewis' media career rather than his playing days, he needs to tone it down.

 

I'm a broadcaster. I was taught that the broadcast is supposed to be about the story you're telling or the news you're reporting -- not about you.

 

Ray needs to be mindful of how he carries himself on TV because then he, himself, becomes the story. A broadcaster, whether he's an analyst or commentator, must write the headline without becoming the headline.

 

 

Well said and spot on.    

[The Raven]

Speaking more to the subject of Ray Lewis' media career rather than his playing days, he needs to tone it down.

 

I'm a broadcaster. I was taught that the broadcast is supposed to be about the story you're telling or the news you're reporting -- not about you.

 

Ray needs to be mindful of how he carries himself on TV because then he, himself, becomes the story. A broadcaster, whether he's an analyst or commentator, must write the headline without becoming the headline.

 

 

Exactamundo. I'm studying journalism, and they told me the same thing. It's simple. I like that last line. "Write the headline without becoming the headline." Funny, because every headline Ray's made since joining ESPN has been because of sensationalism and putting himself in the story. Ray is the headline, and he wouldn't have it any other way.

[gabefergy]

It was a mixture in the playoffs. Both parts of the team rose to the occasion, no part really carried the other part. People feel the O carried us b/c we neva witnessed the O perform like that consistently in such clutch situations but we always see the D get stops, that was nothing new. Also, what was the score at halftime and what was the final score in the SB? Yes, Niners came back but we stop scoring points too so it goes both ways. Also, the D was hurt by the O many times last season which makes the D look like they blew 4th quarters leads when in fact our O didn't seal the deal and sustain drives in those situations.

Not even close to being true.

[wayne]

Ray Lewis was nothing more than a shell of himself for the last 3 seasons of his career. The only thing that kept him on the field was his work ethic and his astute knowledge of the game.

 

Ray should cool out for a couple of years, give up being an analyst and then join the Ravens coaching staff.

Why? He is analyzing just like the rest, how is Ray a bad analyst, b/c of what he said about Joe? Also, Ray is a tad bit different from the other analyst for the fact that he is a year removed from the league and winning the SB. After this year and maybe one more year, Ray will let convo's about him talking on a subject fade out the way.

[Militant X 1]

I love Ray Lewis. I love everything he's done for the city of Baltimore -- I just don't love him as an analyst.

 

He's still learning the craft but he needs to expand his talking points. He's guilty of speaking in generalities and sound bytes, much like many former athletes-turned-analysts.

and I am just the opposite of most cats in here and out there that think like this!  little stuff like this just doesn't bother me!  I want to hear from an "expert" or someone that "knows" what they are talking about!  Ray Lewis meets both of those requirements for me!  say on Ray!  say on!

 

#Mili

[The Mom Gene]

That defense got shredded all season last year.....  the rushing yards against our defense last year was terrible...   We had one of the worst Run Defenses in the league last year....  that's what happened in the 2nd half of the Superbowl...  That one last goal line stance SAVED that game.  One goal line stance.

[wayne]

3rd greatest WR in the history of the NFL and a guy named Wes Welker who caught more passes than any other WR over a 6 year span in the history of the NFL. I'm sure Brady could do the same thing with 35 year old Derrick Mason though. Before that Brady didn't have great weapons and guess what, his numbers are eerily similar to Flacco's.

He's the 3rd greatest player in your opinion, not mine. He's not even Top 10 or possibly even 20 in mine, he's a system slot WR, not like he Megatron out there where he's limited to playing in a certain system. Not like you can put him anywhere on the field and he can take over and run all the routes effectively. Welker is a true definition of a system player.

[theFRANCHISE]

and I am just the opposite of most cats in here and out there that think like this!  little stuff like this just doesn't bother me!  I want to hear from an "expert" or someone that "knows" what they are talking about!  Ray Lewis meets both of those requirements for me!  say on Ray!  say on!

 

#Mili

 

Ray Lewis knows football. There's no disputing that.

 

Problem is, he's suffering from John Madden syndrome. "To win the game, you need to score more points than the other team." "The game will be won in the 4th quarter." "This will come down to the battle of the trenches, man vs. man, going hard for 60 minutes."

 

He's talking but he's not really saying anything. Yes, he's an expert -- so I want to hear more of his expertise. Not just some crap that anyone in an office or a barbershop or in a bar could say.

[The Raven]

He's the 3rd greatest player in your opinion, not mine. He's not even Top 10 or possibly even 20 in mine, he's a system slot WR, not like he Megatron out there where he's limited to playing in a certain system. Not like you can put him anywhere on the field and he can take over and run all the routes effectively. Welker is a true definition of a system player.

 

Disagree. I've seen Welker run a wide variety of routes. Oh btw, he was one of like four WRs to even get a catch against Revis back in his prime year. Welker has been and is a great WR.

[wayne]

That defense got shredded all season last year.....  the rushing yards against our defense last year was terrible...   We had one of the worst Run Defenses in the league last year....  that's what happened in the 2nd half of the Superbowl...  That one last goal line stance SAVED that game.  One goal line stance.

What happened to the O in the second half and that's just one aspect of the game in rushing yards given up. What about passing or turnovers or yards allowed or red zone D? I think we had one of the best 3rd down and red zone D's in the league last year.

[The Raven]

Ray Lewis knows football. There's no disputing that.

 

Problem is, he's suffering from John Madden syndrome. "To win the game, you need to score more points than the other team." "The game will be won in the 4th quarter." "This will come down to the battle of the trenches, man vs. man, going hard for 60 minutes."

 

He's talking but he's not really saying anything. Yes, he's an expert -- so I want to hear more of his expertise. Not just some crap that anyone in an office or a barbershop or in a bar could say.

 

Agreed again! For an "analyst" he's not doing a whole lot of analysis. 

[redrum52]

I broke up your post because the Defense allowed Kaepernick and company to come back in the 2nd half of the Superbowl...  maybe they did shut down the Colts...  who also had a rookie QB and yeah, they were at M&T with a very emotional 12th man...  the crowd noise for Ray's last game was infinitely louder than most any regular season game.

 

That offense turned their game ON in the playoffs last year... Boldin, Pitta, Jacoby, Torrey....  Come on, you really cannot believe that.  I would NEVER say that the Defense carried that team through the playoffs last year...  NO WAY!

True, the defense shut down in the second half, but so did the offense.  Colts game the offense started off terribly and the defense kept them in the game.  Against the Broncos the defense allowed 21 points and we all know what happened with ST that day.  Still they kept Manning from converting to give the offense a chance to run the clock out.  They also scored 6 points and basically got us three by getting the pick in good field position.  Defense shut out the Patriots in the second half after another slow start by the offense in the first.  No one can say any unit carried the team through the playoffs, though Joe did put together the best stretch of play so far during his career.

[Tank 92]

Why? He is analyzing just like the rest, how is Ray a bad analyst, b/c of what he said about Joe? Also, Ray is a tad bit different from the other analyst for the fact that he is a year removed from the league and winning the SB. After this year and maybe one more year, Ray will let convo's about him talking on a subject fade out the way.

 

 

Speaking more to the subject of Ray Lewis' media career rather than his playing days, he needs to tone it down.

 

I'm a broadcaster. I was taught that the broadcast is supposed to be about the story you're telling or the news you're reporting -- not about you.

 

Ray needs to be mindful of how he carries himself on TV because then he, himself, becomes the story. A broadcaster, whether he's an analyst or commentator, must write the headline without becoming the headline.

[flynismo]

Ray needs to keep his self-righteous mouth shut. I'm starting to see what Joe was talking about when he said he had no idea what Ray was talking about.

Ray Lewis the player was great, but Ray Lewis the analyst is moronic, but hey, how many analysts aren't moronic?

He has a ridiculous ego, for certain, we have always known that, but he strikes me as becoming a bit arrogant as well. Of course, when you are one third of the Baltimore holy trinity along with Ripken and Unitas, I guess you kinda earned that right

[gabefergy]

He's the 3rd greatest player in your opinion, not mine. He's not even Top 10 or possibly even 20 in mine, he's a system slot WR, not like he Megatron out there where he's limited to playing in a certain system. Not like you can put him anywhere on the field and he can take over and run all the routes effectively. Welker is a true definition of a system player.

I'm talking about Moss. Welker is kind of a system guy but look what he is doing in Denver. He has a niche role, but he us the best at it, possibly ever. You don't catch over 800 balls on accident.

[The Raven]

He has a ridiculous ego, for certain, we have always known that, but he strikes me as becoming a bit arrogant as well. Of course, when you are one third of the Baltimore holy trinity along with Ripken and Unitas, I guess you kinda earned that right

 

I suppose so. Worth noting though that his ego is the biggest of the holy trinity by far. Cal and Johnny U made headlines with their play, and never with words.

[wayne]

 

That's what he was taught, that doesn't mean that's the only good way to broadcast. Just think if everyone broadcast the way he was taught, it would be old already. That's what I love about broadcasting, it taking on the personality of the person broadcasting. That's why I like Ray as a broadcaster b/c he is so emotional and so pure. It's not out of a book or a script, what you see with Ray is what you get and ESPN knew this too, that's why they brought him in. Warren Sapp, Keyshawn Johnson, they not bringing these guys in for them to broadcast like everyone else.

[The Mom Gene]

True, the defense shut down in the second half, but so did the offense.  Colts game the offense started off terribly and the defense kept them in the game.  The defense allowed 21 points and we all know what happened with ST that day.  Still they kept Manning from converting to give the offense a chance to run the clock out.  They also scored 6 points and basically got us three by getting the pick in good field position.  Defense shut out the Patriots in the second half after another slow start by the offense in the first.  No one can say any unit carried the team through the playoffs, though Joe did put together the best stretch of play so far during his career.

 

Don't you mean Andrew Luck?????  Manning wasn't playing for the Colts...  and in Denver, yeah, our Special Teams allowed Holiday 2 returns for TD's...  We spotted them 14 points in Denver.... 

 

I'm just saying look at our points allowed stat last year... Our Offense HAD to be better in order to score enough points to keep up.  Yeah, look at the Denver game. Tied 34 points each at the end of the 4th quarter.  Our defense is much better this year at keeping teams out of the endzone.

[Tank 92]

He has a ridiculous ego, for certain, we have always known that, but he strikes me as becoming a bit arrogant as well. Of course, when you are one third of the Baltimore holy trinity along with Ripken and Unitas, I guess you kinda earned that right

 

 

Yeah, but when did you ever get that sense of arrogance from Johnny U or Rip?  It's all about humility and class.

 

Ray's arrogance doesn't offend me, just makes me want to ignore what he has to say.

[Gordo52]

..... "Joe Flacco, what do you think of this!!!???"

"That's cool I guess. I don't really care that much."

[wayne]

no.

 

I suppose so. Worth noting though that his ego is the biggest of the holy trinity by far. Cal and Johnny U made headlines with their play, and never with words.

People are different man, everyone doesn't take the quiet approach. Brady and Flacco are different. Brady will get fired up and let his teammates know of his frustrations, Flacco, not so much. Is either approaches the wrong or right approach, no.

[Militant X 1]

Ray Lewis knows football. There's no disputing that.

 

Problem is, he's suffering from John Madden syndrome. "To win the game, you need to score more points than the other team." "The game will be won in the 4th quarter." "This will come down to the battle of the trenches, man vs. man, going hard for 60 minutes."

 

He's talking but he's not really saying anything. Yes, he's an expert -- so I want to hear more of his expertise. Not just some crap that anyone in an office or a barbershop or in a bar could say.

the man just retired from a game that he played intensively for 17 years and now he's wearing a suit to speak about that said game.  how do you really expect him to act or speak?  c'mon Franchise!  cut the man some slack!  man, we have 2 of our guys sitting at the desk with one another...2 Super Bowl winners from the Ravens (Dilfer & Lewis) doing analysis and commentating on the games.  life is good brah!  LOL!!!

 

#Mili

[wayne]

..... "Joe Flacco, what do you think of this!!!???"

"That's cool I guess. I don't really care that much."

Everyone doesn't have the " I don't care " attitude man. Quite frankly, I would hate to play with someone that hads that attitude or the nonchalant type of attitude. They made have that attitude and still play their hearts out but that's just me.

[The Raven]

the man just retired from a game that he played intensively for 17 years and now he's wearing a suit to speak about that said game.  how do you really expect him to act or speak?  c'mon Franchise!  cut the man some slack!  man, we have 2 of our guys sitting at the desk with one another...2 Super Bowl winners from the Ravens (Dilfer & Lewis) doing analysis and commentating ion the games.  life is good brah!  LOL!!!

 

#Mili

 

We don't care that he speaks emotionally, just that he's making himself the story instead of writing the story. That's a big time media no no.

[flynismo]

Ray Lewis knows football. There's no disputing that.

Problem is, he's suffering from John Madden syndrome. "To win the game, you need to score more points than the other team." "The game will be won in the 4th quarter." "This will come down to the battle of the trenches, man vs. man, going hard for 60 minutes."

He's talking but he's not really saying anything. Yes, he's an expert -- so I want to hear more of his expertise. Not just some crap that anyone in an office or a barbershop or in a bar could say.

He really should have just stepped away from football for a couple years, enjoy retirement a little, then worry about becoming another talking head

[wayne]

the man just retired from a game that he played intensively for 17 years and now he's wearing a suit to speak about that said game.  how do you really expect him to act or speak?  c'mon Franchise!  cut the man some slack!  man, we have 2 of our guys sitting at the desk with one another...2 Super Bowl winners from the Ravens (Dilfer & Lewis) doing analysis and commentating ion the games.  life is good brah!  LOL!!!

 

#Mili

Well said man, lol. Guess Ray should be like a robot or something.

[redrum52]

Don't you mean Andrew Luck?????  Manning wasn't playing for the Colts...  and in Denver, yeah, our Special Teams allowed Holiday 2 returns for TD's...  We spotted them 14 points in Denver.... 

 

I'm just saying look at our points allowed stat last year... Our Offense HAD to be better in order to score enough points to keep up.  Yeah, look at the Denver game. Tied 34 points each at the end of the 4th quarter.  Our defense is much better this year at keeping teams out of the endzone.

Yea had to correct that sentence, but you know what I meant.  Those points weren't on the defense or offense though.  Like I said, the defense did get 7 back and helped with the game winning field goal.  Also, of course the offense HAD to be better, cause they weren't all that great for most of Joe's tenure.  I've said this before, 3 and outs, and stalled drives are not new to this offense.  The offense just finally covered their end of the deal last year.

[theFRANCHISE]

That's what he was taught, that doesn't mean that's the only good way to broadcast. Just think if everyone broadcast the way he was taught, it would be old already. That's what I love about broadcasting, it taking on the personality of the person broadcasting. That's why I like Ray as a broadcaster b/c he is so emotional and so pure. It's not out of a book or a script, what you see with Ray is what you get and ESPN knew this too, that's why they brought him in. Warren Sapp, Keyshawn Johnson, they not bringing these guys in for them to broadcast like everyone else.

 

 

the man just retired from a game that he played intensively for 17 years and now he's wearing a suit to speak about that said game.  how do you really expect him to act or speak?  c'mon Franchise!  cut the man some slack!  man, we have 2 of our guys sitting at the desk with one another...2 Super Bowl winners from the Ravens (Dilfer & Lewis) doing analysis and commentating ion the games.  life is good brah!  LOL!!!

 

#Mili

 

But when Ray talks when he sits behind that desk, are you really learning anything new about the game?

 

Are you learning why certain blitz packages work better than others? Are you seeing why some teams prefer to stay in a base Cover 2 package for an entire game with different looks thrown in, regardless of situation? Are you understanding why some teams' script the first few plays on offense before opening up the playbook?

 

I want to learn more when I'm listening to an analyst.

[wayne]

We don't care that he speaks emotionally, just that he's making himself the story instead of writing the story. That's a big time media no no.

Hes a year removed from the sport..... give it time man but when speaking about the Ravens being a year removed, how can he not make it about him?