What Do You Think of Ray Lewis's Comments?

[ratedr]

Even during the Super Bowl run I was getting tired of Ray's antics. He was the only person on the team who had a ring before last year, yet he was the only person sobbing like a drama queen after every game. You didn't see Ed Reed carrying on like that. I'm not the biggest Vinny Cerrato fan but he's right when he says Ray likes to make it about Ray.

[KnowNoLimits]

He had ONE year of being overly emotional. Understandable if you think of how his career was ending like a fairy tale.

Other than last year, I'm going to need examples of his antics to understand where you guys are coming from.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Even during the Super Bowl run I was getting tired of Ray's antics. He was the only person on the team who had a ring before last year, yet he was the only person sobbing like a drama queen after every game. You didn't see Ed Reed carrying on like that. I'm not the biggest Vinny Cerrato fan but he's right when he says Ray likes to make it about Ray.

 

I didn't see it that way.   If you've seen Ray for the past +15 years, you would know who'd he is.   

 

As for Vinny Cerrato, are you serious?   That ex-redskins GM always had few criticism about Ray & Ed.   He has his haters on radio for a good reason for very few years his been here in bmore

[Florida Ravens Fan]

If some think he's arrogant and a bit egotistical, who cares lol! He's about the media and attention now.

[ratedr]

I didn't see it that way. If you've seen Ray for the past +15 years, you would know who'd he is.

As for Vinny Cerrato, are you serious? That ex-redskins GM always had few criticism about Ray & Ed. He has his haters on radio for a good reason for very few years his been here in bmore

I don't like Vinny but he's right about a few things.

I like what Ray does in the community but when it comes to football he loves the attention.

[Gordo52]

Over the last year or so I've been a lot better with not caring what media heads say. But when Ray says something I listen....I highly disagree with him on this one though. I don't understand it.

He's forgotten more football then I know...

But I guess he forgot Joe carrying the entire team last year in the playoffs with one of the worst defenses in franchise history. Forgot having to deal with crazy Cameron most of his career.
And forgot all the drops in playoffs when it mattered. I guess he's not following us this year as well.

I still love you And respect your opinion Ray.

[Guest Moderator 6]

You'll all be watching him get inducted into the HoF in a few years and we'll all be crying together.  Ray can say what he wants whether we agree or not.

[KnowNoLimits]

I'm puzzled. I just need one example from the past that shows me Ray's egotistical ways... Was it the pregame speeches???

I'm starting to sense a little hate.

[Ravenseconbeast]

I don't like Vinny but he's right about a few things.

I like what Ray does in the community but when it comes to football he loves the attention.

 

He also has a job now.   He is an analyst in ESPN and that's his profession.   But please mark that as being a 'attention hogger and a egomaniac'.   Lame excuse.

[SecretAgentMan]

I'm puzzled. I just need one example from the past that shows me Ray's egotistical ways... Was it the pregame speeches???

I'm starting to sense a little hate.

I've said several times that Ray Lewis is flamboyant and has a big ego. Just who he is. Doesn't mean I don't like him, but that's the truth.

 

Rah Rah players are always like that.... Just how it it, part of who he is

[ratedr]

He also has a job now. He is an analyst in ESPN and that's his profession. But please mark that as being a 'attention hogger and a egomaniac'. Lame excuse.

That's pretty much a job requirement for ESPN so yeah, sounds about right.

[KnowNoLimits]

Over the last year or so I've been a lot better with not caring what media heads say. But when Ray says something I listen....I highly disagree with him on this one though. I don't understand it.

He's forgotten more football then I know...

But I guess he forgot Joe carrying the entire team last year in the playoffs with one of the worst defenses in franchise history. Forgot having to deal with crazy Cameron most of his career.
And forgot all the drops in playoffs when it mattered. I guess he's not following us this year as well.

I still love you And respect your opinion Ray.

A positive way of saying you disagree with Ray Lewis.. This is the right way.

We don't need negativity spewed at OUR legend.

[Militant X 1]

Ray was smart enough to retire because he knew he was done. Had nothing to do with being generous.

Anyone on this site will tell you that I'm fairly harsh on Flacco when I need to be, but unlike blind haters such as yourself, I can see the good and the bad. Interesting accusation from you especially, considering that you only pop up when there's something negative to say about Flacco. Come to think of it, you were MIA after the Super Bowl. I'm sure if Flacco had a terrible game you would've been all over the place though. Fans like you would love to see the organization fail just to say "I told you so" about Flacco. How sad.

Guys like Mili are objective. Don't fool yourself into believing you're anything close to that.

And Ray Lewis is still arrogant and self-serving.

 

appreciate that ratedr.  I don't hate Flacco.  I want him to do well and succeed as our starting QB.  And yet, when in my viewpoint he has played poorly, I'll come in here and speak that.  Now, in reference to what Ray Lewis said about him....I agree!  Here is what I posted earlier about it:

 

Flacco is enduring his worst statistical season of his career, including a career-high 14 interceptions, but per CSNBaltimore.com, Lewis said the quarterback isn't really playing differently than in years past. Lewis says the difference is that he lacks a supporting cast to compensate for his mistakes.

"When I was playing with Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco was making these same mistakes back then, but our defense always found a way to bail him out," Lewis said during ESPN's Sunday NFL Countdown.

Lewis said that in order for Flacco to flourish, the offense needs more balance with a successful running attack, meaning Flacco can't carry the offense all on his own.

"There's no real balance that [the] Baltimore Ravens have right now and they want to make Joe Flacco"  they gave him $100 million, I understand that" they want to make Joe Flacco a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. He's not that type of guy. He's a system type of guy that if you have the balance , that you have running the ball, doing the things you need to do" then Joe Flacco excels."

^ I agree with Ray!  Flacco is still making those same mistakes and it is true that Flacco can't carry the team by himself....he needs help!  And, there is nothing wrong with that!  the Ravens running game has been pure trash this season along with the lack of pass protection from his horrible O-line.  as a result, Joe is "trying" to do to much cause of his $120 mil deal.  but as Ray said; he is not Peyton or Brady!  cool!  I don't need him to be that....just what we (Ravens) need him to be.  I like the term Ray used about Flacco; "system type of guy".  perfectly said!  cause when the running game is clicking...then Joe can get that pass action working!  system!

 

#Mili

[Hardbaugh]

I believe he's on the mark. Fans and GMs around the league understand Flacco isn't worth what his contract calls for. When the butchers bill comes in on that deal it's sure going to be interesting reading if nothing else.  Flacco is ordinary, a game manager, system quarterback, he's anything but worthy of that kind of deal.

[NFLfan123]

I wouldn't say Ray Lewis is "moronic" as an analyst.

He's just calling the game as he see's it, and frankly a lot of what he says contains factual evidence.

 

While I don't agree with everything he says, he certainly knows what he's talking about.

[NFLfan123]

appreciate that ratedr.  I don't hate Flacco.  I want him to do well and succeed as our starting QB.  And yet, when in my viewpoint he has played poorly, I'll come in here and speak that.  Now, in reference to what Ray Lewis said about him....I agree!  Here is what I posted earlier about it:

 

Flacco is enduring his worst statistical season of his career, including a career-high 14 interceptions, but per CSNBaltimore.com, Lewis said the quarterback isn't really playing differently than in years past. Lewis says the difference is that he lacks a supporting cast to compensate for his mistakes.

"When I was playing with Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco was making these same mistakes back then, but our defense always found a way to bail him out," Lewis said during ESPN's Sunday NFL Countdown.

Lewis said that in order for Flacco to flourish, the offense needs more balance with a successful running attack, meaning Flacco can't carry the offense all on his own.

"There's no real balance that [the] Baltimore Ravens have right now and they want to make Joe Flacco"  they gave him $100 million, I understand that" they want to make Joe Flacco a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. He's not that type of guy. He's a system type of guy that if you have the balance , that you have running the ball, doing the things you need to do" then Joe Flacco excels."

^ I agree with Ray!  Flacco is still making those same mistakes and it is true that Flacco can't carry the team by himself....he needs help!  And, there is nothing wrong with that!  the Ravens running game has been pure trash this season along with the lack of pass protection from his horrible O-line.  as a result, Joe is "trying" to do to much cause of his $120 mil deal.  but as Ray said; he is not Peyton or Brady!  cool!  I don't need him to be that....just what we (Ravens) need him to be.  I like the term Ray used about Flacco; "system type of guy".  perfectly said!  cause when the running game is clicking...then Joe can get that pass action working!  system!

 

#Mili

As Mili pointed out, Ray's points are actually pretty spot on. I guess he just presents them in a way that upsets Ravens fans.

[BmoreBird22]

Look, I love Ray and the Ravens. I know Flacco hasn't played well, but that doesn't mean Ray's comments are right. Flacco was worth the contract, and as I showed (or tried to), no quarterback can truly "carry" a team.
I love Lewis and love what he did on the field. He'll go down as the second best linebacker to ever play as of now and he'll be a HoF player when he's able to be. However, just because he's a great player doesn't mean he is a good analyst or that he doesn't try to draw the attention back to him, almost like he doesn't want people to forget his legacy on the field.
That's not an insult, and to be honest, I'm surprised to see how up in arms people are getting.

[BmoreBird22]

As Mili pointed out, Ray's points are actually pretty spot on. I guess he just presents them in a way that upsets Ravens fans.

I don't think they're factual and I tried my best in my opening comment to shy why they were off base. I don't think he's all that great of an analyst, honestly

[SecretAgentMan]

I wouldn't say Ray Lewis is "moronic" as an analyst.

He's just calling the game as he see's it, and frankly a lot of what he says contains factual evidence.

 

While I don't agree with everything he says, he certainly knows what he's talking about.

He's not moronic. At least he isn't. ESPN is just more about ratings than anything. This is probably just to stir controversy(the way he said it). He aint Manning, Brady, Brees, or Rodgers. Those four are one of a kind players, but at no point did he not say that Flacco is a bad QB. That's not true, Ray does not think that.

 

And a system kind of guy is how you can describe most players in all sports except baseball! Nothing wrong with being it.

 

Peyton Manning has his system. So does, Brady, so does Brees and Rodgers. Flacco knows what his is, and that requires an adequate running game. He doesn't have that, and his weapons are hurt. Every good QB is technically "a system kind of guy".

 

 

He's not a guy where the system MAKES him(product of the system like a Schaub, or an Alex Smith), but he plays in a system that works very well for him.

 

Lewis is right about Flacco needing to play better, but the way he said these remarks were just to stir controversy and get ratings up.

[gabefergy]

Factually incorrect and also very self serving.

[bauer77]

LOL. I love some of the fans on here. You bash Ray Lewis once, and everyone questions your "fanhood" so to speak. Unreal.

 

Ray isn't here anymore. Yes, he basically was Baltimore for 17 years. We all love him. But ever since he left here, all he has does is question everything that has happened here. I can guarantee the majority of that is ESPN though, so it doesn't upset me. 

[BmoreBird22]

LOL. I love some of the fans on here. You bash Ray Lewis once, and everyone questions your "fanhood" so to speak. Unreal.
 
Ray isn't here anymore. Yes, he basically was Baltimore for 17 years. We all love him. But ever since he left here, all he has does is question everything that has happened here. I can guarantee the majority of that is ESPN though, so it doesn,t upset me.

That's the point I think people are really missing, but you said it well

[Gordo52]

Where's the line?

Flacco isn't Rodgers or Manning. He's certainly worth that type of money, he bet on himself and won. Another team would've paid him something similar if we hadn't. The FO hasn't supplied him with weapons, nor can they predict Pitta's injury. Ray Rice is having a bad year. All QB's need either one or the other to succeed (oline or running game--both haven't been good this year). Flacco himself is making boneheaded mistakes. We would be lucky to have 2 wins without him. It's not a coincidence every QB with pretty stats has one or the other.

QB's receive too much blame and too much credit. Our whole entire offense has been bad. Why can't that be enough?

Exuse me but I didn't feel like typing properly because I'm so tired of this subject and from working. I think I got my point across.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

Where's the line?

Flacco isn't Rodgers or Manning. He's certainly worth that type of money, he bet on himself and won. Another team would've paid him something similar if we hadn't. The FO hasn't supplied him with weapons, nor can they predict Pitta's injury. Ray Rice is having a bad year. All QB's need either one or the other to succeed (oline or running game--both haven't been good this year). Flacco himself is making boneheaded mistakes. We would be lucky to have 2 wins without him. It's not a coincidence every QB with pretty stats has one or the other.

QB's receive too much blame and too much credit. Our whole entire offense has been bad. Why can't that be enough?

Exuse me but I didn't feel like typing properly because I'm so tired of this subject and from working. I think I got my point across.

lol.

Worst run game in history.
Worst Oline in history (they are Improving).
Second most sacked qb.

And......it's Joe's fault.

[Strength.52]

  The only people making this all about Ray is everybody complaining here ... Of course he'll talk about himself a little - That's what he's paid to do as an analyst who played the game

 

   Ray doesn't go out of his way to "appear" humble - He just tells it as he sees it. A lot of athletes are scared to talk about themselves in any sort of positive light because they want to protect their "humble" image ... Truly being selfless is DOING YOUR JOB without any fear of how you are perceived (whether people view you as "humble" or a self-centered maniac like some people here see Ray) ... Weather what he says props himself up, or puts himself down, it doesn't really matter 

 

  It's funny to me that Ravens fans don't recognize this - It's the same thing with ray's intro dance ... Of course it makes him "look better" and brings attention to himself, but anybody who's been paying attention the last decade knows that Ray does the dance w/o thinking of himself and solely for the team - In a way Ray is "sacrificing" his humble image for the team in order to get his troops and fans ready for the game - Ray could be selfish and not do the dance, thus making the home atmosphere worse (His team worse), but he would certainly look better and not look like a self-centered maniac (To ignorant people who love to have opinions on things w/o researching the WHY part) ... I thought Ravens fans have recognized this point

 

  It's the same thing here - Ray doesn't worry about the negative backlash he will receive (Being called "self-centered") - he is being selfless (bringing on more criticism / backlash) in order to do his job as he was paid to do

 

     As someone who played on the Ravens last year, of course he would talk about HIS experiences when asked about the Ravens ... ESPN did not hire him to just be another analysts scared to give his opinion - With Ray playing football last year, he has a unique personal insight from HIS view that ESPN wants him to talk about ... 

 

  Doesn't make him self-centered, just means that he's doing his job

[The Raven]

  The only people making this all about Ray is everybody complaining here ... Of course he'll talk about himself a little - That's what he's paid to do as an analyst who played the game

 

   Ray doesn't go out of his way to "appear" humble - He just tells it as he sees it. A lot of athletes are scared to talk about themselves in any sort of positive light because they want to protect their "humble" image ... Truly being selfless is DOING YOUR JOB without any fear of how you are perceived (whether people view you as "humble" or a self-centered maniac like some people here see Ray) ... Weather what he says props himself up, or puts himself down, it doesn't really matter 

 

  It's funny to me that Ravens fans don't recognize this - It's the same thing with ray's intro dance ... Of course it makes him "look better" and brings attention to himself, but anybody who's been paying attention the last decade knows that Ray does the dance w/o thinking of himself and solely for the team - In a way Ray is "sacrificing" his humble image for the team in order to get his troops and fans ready for the game - Ray could be selfish and not do the dance, thus making the home atmosphere worse (His team worse), but he would certainly look better and not look like a self-centered maniac ... I thought Ravens fans have recognized this point

 

  It's the same thing here - Ray doesn't worry about the negative backlash he will receive (Being called "self-centered") - he is being selfless (bringing on more criticism / backlash) in order to do his job as he was paid to do

 

     As someone who played on the Ravens last year, of course he would talk about HIS experiences when asked about the Ravens ... ESPN did not hire him to just be another analysts scared to give his opinion - With Ray playing football last year, he has a unique personal insight from HIS view that ESPN wants him to talk about ... 

 

  Doesn't make him self-centered, just means that he's doing his job

 

Actually, media members are supposed to be third party reporters that keep themselves out of the story, but okay.

[wayne]

I agree with everything Rays says. Joe needs a good supporting cast around him to excels , he needs a run game and a good defense. I can't believe people on here is denying that Joe has made a lot of the same mistakes in the past that he's making now. Do I need to bring out the you tube clips? Also, I guess if Ray praised Flacco and the Ravens that would make him a great analyst but now b/c he spoke the truth, he's a bad analyst now. I see what other people say about a lot of Ravens fans, I'm starting to really see it........ delusional. Ray is a good analyst for the simple facts b/c he has played the game and was one of the best doing so so he understands it from a players angle as well as on the outside looking in and b/c he doesn't sugar coat anything. Doesn't take a genius to be a good analyst.

[Tank 92]

 

 

Some of the guys on NFL Network, like Heath Evans and Jamie Dukes, are complete idiots, but I do think he would have been a more welcome sight there since they use a lot of former athletes. 

I really think Ray believes what he says and ESPN is just loving that he is willing to say it..

 

 

 

Ray is an entertainer and he has always, let's just say, "embellish" his commentary when speaking to the press and now working as an analyst. I mentioned this another thread, I had hoped he was going to be more of a cerebral analyst and share his unique and analytical knowledge of the game. But he continues to constantly self promote when he really doesn't need to. Ray Lewis is one of GOAT NFL players, he needs to stop, most everyone believes he is what he is.

 

Regardless of what Ray thinks of Joe's abilities or performance, he shouldn't ultimately make it about him. It's boring. There's already plenty of ego maniacs working as analysts, Irvin being one of the worst. 

[The Raven]

So, Ray says that Flacco needs a talented cast around him to win. Does that mean Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers don't? This has ESPN style ignorance written all over it. I'd pay a lot of money to see the circus that would ensue if Brady and Manning had to play with these offensive pieces.

[redrum52]

I agree with everything Rays says. Joe needs a good supporting cast around him to excels , he needs a run game and a good defense. I can't believe people on here is denying that Joe has made a lot of the same mistakes in the past that he's making now. Do I need to bring out the you tube clips? Also, I guess if Ray praised Flacco and the Ravens that would make him a great analyst but now b/c he spoke the truth, he's a bad analyst now. I see what other people say about a lot of Ravens fans, I'm starting to really see it........ delusional. Ray is a good analyst for the simple facts b/c he has played the game and was one of the best doing so so he understands it from a players angle as well as on the outside looking in and b/c he doesn't sugar coat anything. Doesn't take a genius to be a good analyst.

Birk defends Joe, it's cool.  Ray doesn't necessarily say he's bad, but say's he need pieces around him, like the ones defending him do and it's bad.  It doesn't matter even arguing, as long as the teams winning, I'm good, for the most part.

 

Off topic, I always thought Dilfer was a pretty good analyst.