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Chances Jacoby Jones is back next year?

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Jacoby is becoming more than money on kick offs, it would appear that Joe's confidence in him is growing. His value to the Ravens is becoming more vital every week. If the numbers work (salary cap) he is a Raven! A must have for us as we still transition in the post-Lewis era.

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Jones is definitely stepping up as a receiver, I'll give him credit for that. I still think he is best suited as your 3rd/4th guy though as his overall play is still inconsistent. I guess it depends how much the Ravens are willing to pay for what he brings. I'd still rather draft a WR early who would have far greater potential for the future.

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Corderelle Patterson and Deandre Hopkins disagree with your assessment that drafting a WR deep in the 1st isn't ready to start.

 

Hopkins has almost 800 yards receiving playing with Schaub and Keenum.

 

Patterson proved why he is dynamic last week and would be lighting it up if he didnt have cassell/ponder/freeman throwing to him.

 

How about keenan Allen in the third round? Jacoby is at best a 3rd receiver

 

Again WR is not a priority this year.  Why would they draft a WR in the first round when they desperately need to improve the OL and DL? 

 

Plus, if Aaron Mellette is not in Harbaughs infamous doghouse he looks to be a deep threat with good hands. 

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Again WR is not a priority this year. Why would they draft a WR in the first round when they desperately need to improve the OL and DL?

Plus, if Aaron Mellette is not in Harbaughs infamous doghouse he looks to be a deep threat with good hands.

Says who? WR has been a problem all season. We have no consistent receivers at all. Its clearly one of the biggest needs on the team.

Mellette has done nothing besides make a few catches against 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason. Expecting him to fill any void at WR is foolish.

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Says who? WR has been a problem all season. We have no consistent receivers at all. Its clearly one of the biggest needs on the team.

Mellette has done nothing besides make a few catches against 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason. Expecting him to fill any void at WR is foolish.

 

And you expect a Rookie to do what? At least Mellette knows the system and next year can develop into a fine no. 3 or 4 receiver.

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And you expect a Rookie to do what?

Be much better than what our WRs not named Torrey Smith have done so far this year. Its an incredibly talented WR class.

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JJ is a very solid WR(dont get into the #1, #2 junk). To say he is not is just dumb.

At a reasonable price, bring him back. Without him, we win 2 less games this year and dont win the SB last year.

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Again WR is not a priority this year.  Why would they draft a WR in the first round when they desperately need to improve the OL and DL? 

 

Plus, if Aaron Mellette is not in Harbaughs infamous doghouse he looks to be a deep threat with good hands. 

 

Because we've allowed a combined five sacks against the likes of Pittsburgh, Minnesota, and Detroit. Just five. Yet, Flacco has been unable to light up the scoreboards because his receivers are mediocre.

 

The offensive line has figured out pass protection. Offensive line needs to run block better and it should be improved, but WR is by no means not a priority.

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Maybe not a popular opinion, but I hope we find a way to keep him. It seems that he and Joe are developing a connection and not just on the long ball. We've got to stop the WR revolving door for a couple of years and gain some stability in the passing game.

 

Dragonfly is THE X Factor on this squad.

 

 

Checking in on this and I see opinion is swaying.

 

I think JJ will continue on his upswing as a WR, but with that may come interest from others. I just continue to hope we can get him back at a reasonable price.

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Don't mess with the love.

 

Just watched a replay of the big game vs the Lions.  On 3rd and 15 Flacco threw a high bullet that only he can throw.  It was intended for Jacoby Jones, who had made himself open again.  It as high and sailing. It was coming with extreme velocity.  Jones went up and snagged it. It set the Ravens up for the Game winning field goal.  This was after an outstanding Kick Return by Jones as well.

 

Jacoby returned to the huddle with a determined sneer on his face.  He stalked his way quickly into the huddle. Flacco greeted Jones return with a head to head butt. It was respect, appreciation and love without a single word exchanged.

 

When this season is over, this front office better not tamper with this chemistry. They better have learned their lesson.

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Don't mess with the love.

 

Just watched a replay of the big game vs the Lions.  On 3rd and 15 Flacco threw a high bullet that only he can throw.  It was intended for Jacoby Jones, who had made himself open again.  It as high and sailing. It was coming with extreme velocity.  Jones went up and snagged it. It set the Ravens up for the Game winning field goal.  This was after an outstanding Kick Return by Jones as well.

 

Jacoby returned to the huddle with a determined sneer on his face.  He stalked his way quickly into the huddle. Flacco greeted Jones return with a head to head butt. It was respect, appreciation and love without a single word exchanged.

 

When this season is over, this front office better not tamper with this chemistry. They better have learned their lesson.

I couldn't agree more 

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Don't mess with the love.

 

Just watched a replay of the big game vs the Lions.  On 3rd and 15 Flacco threw a high bullet that only he can throw.  It was intended for Jacoby Jones, who had made himself open again.  It as high and sailing. It was coming with extreme velocity.  Jones went up and snagged it. It set the Ravens up for the Game winning field goal.  This was after an outstanding Kick Return by Jones as well.

 

Jacoby returned to the huddle with a determined sneer on his face.  He stalked his way quickly into the huddle. Flacco greeted Jones return with a head to head butt. It was respect, appreciation and love without a single word exchanged.

 

When this season is over, this front office better not tamper with this chemistry. They better have learned their lesson.

"....it was coming with extreme velocity". Luv it!

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Again WR is not a priority this year. Why would they draft a WR in the first round when they desperately need to improve the OL and DL?

 

Plus, if Aaron Mellette is not in Harbaughs infamous doghouse he looks to be a deep threat with good hands.

 

 

You would like to put the teams hopes on a playmaker 7th round Wr that was IR stashed his first year? How many years will this team attempt to depend on late round WR's instead of actually taking talent?  David Reed (5th), Marcus Smith (4th), Justin Harper (7th), Demetrius Williams (4th) , Yamon Figurs (3rd), Devard Darling (3rd), Clarence Moore (6th), etc .

 

They need to draft a sure (as sure as 1st rounders go) top tier WR if they ever want this offense to succeed.

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Depends on the price. We have a few options at KR..none quite as good as Jacoby though.

Also,depending on how they feel about the WR position moving forward. Deonte Thompson is also a burner but hasn't been able to see many snaps. Doss has progressed a little..but still not a good 2nd or 3rd receiver option. So that will leave us with Smith and Brown. If that's the case. We NEED Jacob..bad

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Again WR is not a priority this year.  Why would they draft a WR in the first round when they desperately need to improve the OL and DL? 

 

Plus, if Aaron Mellette is not in Harbaughs infamous doghouse he looks to be a deep threat with good hands. 

You would like to put the teams hopes on a playmaker 7th round Wr that was IR stashed his first year? How many years will this team attempt to depend on late round WR's instead of actually taking talent?  David Reed (5th), Marcus Smith (4th), Justin Harper (7th), Demetrius Williams (4th) , Yamon Figurs (3rd), Devard Darling (3rd), Clarence Moore (6th), etc .

 

They need to draft a sure (as sure as 1st rounders go) top tier WR if they ever want this offense to succeed.

 

Because this Draft is super stacked with WR talent.  Just anything on Offense.

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Not only are there several great receivers in this year's draft, but there are not a bunch of teams that will be drafting before us that will likely take a receiver in the first couple rounds.

 

Having said that, I would very much like to keep Jacoby.  I don't know that he would be flooded with huge offers from other teams, and I do believe that he is enjoying playing in Baltimore.  I think we can keep him, but if we don't I do not believe it's a killer blow.  It hurts, but it doesn't terminate.

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Not only are there several great receivers in this year's draft, but there are not a bunch of teams that will be drafting before us that will likely take a receiver in the first couple rounds.

 

Having said that, I would very much like to keep Jacoby.  I don't know that he would be flooded with huge offers from other teams, and I do believe that he is enjoying playing in Baltimore.  I think we can keep him, but if we don't I do not believe it's a killer blow.  It hurts, but it doesn't terminate.

 

Thats interesting.

 

In case anyone has lost track, without Jacoby Jones it would be very easy to make a case that we lose the last 3 games we won.

 

At Detroit his late Kickoff Return and Clutch catch on the winning Field Goal Drive.  There were earlier great returns as well.

 

Vs Minnesota, Do the Raven's even get to the last winning series without his Kickoff Return for TD?  Maybe, Maybe not.

 

vs Pittsburgh, Jacoby's certain T.D. is cheated away from us by Tomlin, but the field goal becomes the difference in the game.

 

You have to hope our Front Office is tuned into what is making a difference, but considering

their recent record there is no guarantee of that.

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Thats interesting.

 

In case anyone has lost track, without Jacoby Jones it would be very easy to make a case that we lose the last 3 games we won.

 

At Detroit his late Kickoff Return and Clutch catch on the winning Field Goal Drive.  There were earlier great returns as well.

 

Vs Minnesota, Do the Raven's even get to the last winning series without his Kickoff Return for TD?  Maybe, Maybe not.

 

vs Pittsburgh, Jacoby's certain T.D. is cheated away from us by Tomlin, but the field goal becomes the difference in the game.

 

You have to hope our Front Office is tuned into what is making a difference, but considering

their recent record there is no guarantee of that.

 

 

Add in the SB and you have production that would be very hard to replace. I just don't get how some think JJs are a dime a dozen.

 

I'm sure the FO is "tuned in", but they have the difficult job of getting the best value out of the allotted cap dollars.

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Because this Draft is super stacked with WR talent.  Just anything on Offense.

The top part of my post was quoted from somebody else, I am in agreeance with you.

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Add in the SB and you have production that would be very hard to replace. I just don't get how some think JJs are a dime a dozen.

 

I'm sure the FO is "tuned in", but they have the difficult job of getting the best value out of the allotted cap dollars.

He's clearly one of the best returner's in the league, but it's not like he is the best KR or only player in the league capable of making plays in ST. Our blocking has been exceptional and he has taken advantage, just like we have seen form David Reed, Webb, and Doss in the past. There have been over 20 ST returns for TDs this season coming from lots of different return men, so let's not pretend that Jones is the only guy capable. 

 

He's not a consistent threat on offense either, so it just comes down to how much money. There are a lot of players who can equal or surpass his production on offense for much cheaper i.e. a draft pick.

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He's clearly one of the best returner's in the league, but it's not like he is the best KR or only player in the league capable of making plays in ST. Our blocking has been exceptional and he has taken advantage, just like we have seen form David Reed, Webb, and Doss in the past. There have been over 20 ST returns for TDs this season coming from lots of different return men, so let's not pretend that Jones is the only guy capable. 

 

He's not a consistent threat on offense either, so it just comes down to how much money. There are a lot of players who can equal or surpass his production on offense for much cheaper i.e. a draft pick.

 

 

We've had this debate before when you said Doss was just as capable as Jones and I have no desire to rehash that nonsense.(David Reed? really?) And saying that a "draft pick" could just step in and do the same is speculative at best, and to be frank, just silly.

 

Jones is improving as a WR each week and has become a reliable, consistent threat on offense while developing a chemistry with Joe(did you watch the lions game?). We should do what we can to keep him. I'm not saying we break the bank, but there's a lot to be said for consistency and not just feeding new receivers into the mix year after year.

 

For some reason you just don't like the guy and that's fine. But don't try to discount what he has accomplished in his short time with this Team.

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Thats interesting.

In case anyone has lost track, without Jacoby Jones it would be very easy to make a case that we lose the last 3 games we won.

At Detroit his late Kickoff Return and Clutch catch on the winning Field Goal Drive. There were earlier great returns as well.

Vs Minnesota, Do the Raven's even get to the last winning series without his Kickoff Return for TD? Maybe, Maybe not.

vs Pittsburgh, Jacoby's certain T.D. is cheated away from us by Tomlin, but the field goal becomes the difference in the game.

You have to hope our Front Office is tuned into what is making a difference, but considering

their recent record there is no guarantee of that.

Jacoby is certainly clutch and plays very big in big moments. I want him back, and I think it will be easier to keep him than, say, Ellerbe or Kruger last year.

It is hard to play the "if" game, though. Perhaps if we had a stud receiver in Jacoby's place, we make enough plays throughout the game that we don't even need Jones to come to the rescue at the end. I'm sure glad he has done what he's done the past few weeks, though. My guess is he stays.

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He's clearly one of the best returner's in the league, but it's not like he is the best KR or only player in the league capable of making plays in ST. Our blocking has been exceptional and he has taken advantage, just like we have seen form David Reed, Webb, and Doss in the past. There have been over 20 ST returns for TDs this season coming from lots of different return men, so let's not pretend that Jones is the only guy capable.

He's not a consistent threat on offense either, so it just comes down to how much money. There are a lot of players who can equal or surpass his production on offense for much cheaper i.e. a draft pick.

Dudes a beast. Sorry you're not seeing it for some reason...

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We've had this debate before when you said Doss was just as capable as Jones and I have no desire to rehash that nonsense.(David Reed? really?) And saying that a "draft pick" could just step in and do the same is speculative at best, and to be frank, just silly.

 

Jones is improving as a WR each week and has become a reliable, consistent threat on offense while developing a chemistry with Joe(did you watch the lions game?). We should do what we can to keep him. I'm not saying we break the bank, but there's a lot to be said for consistency and not just feeding new receivers into the mix year after year.

 

For some reason you just don't like the guy and that's fine. But don't try to discount what he has accomplished in his short time with this Team.

David Reed led the NFL in KR in 2010. It just shows that it isnt something unique to Jacoby. We have a great ST unit, so no it's not silly at all really. Doss was just as capable as a PR, in fact he still leads the NFL in Yards per return.

 

Jones is absolutely not a reliable or consistent threat at WR, don't be delusional. One game doesn't mean he is now some kind of breakout player. Remember against the Vikings when he let a ball bounce off of him for an INT? He is not a polished WR at all, and after 7 years in the league that is probably not going to change.

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Dudes a beast. Sorry you're not seeing it for some reason...

I do see it. I also see that he plays in a great system and is not worth breaking the bank for.

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David Reed led the NFL in KR in 2010. It just shows that it isnt something unique to Jacoby. We have a great ST unit, so no it's not silly at all really. Doss was just as capable as a PR, in fact he still leads the NFL in Yards per return.

 

Jones is absolutely not a reliable or consistent threat at WR, don't be delusional. One game doesn't mean he is now some kind of breakout player. Remember against the Vikings when he let a ball bounce off of him for an INT? He is not a polished WR at all, and after 7 years in the league that is probably not going to change.

 

 

So why isn't David Reed still on the Team? For the same reason Doss will be gone after the season.  They both are unreliable as a KR or WR and they have low football IQs. They both failed miserably at key points in games, so their other "good" plays are really irrelevant. 

 

Think what you want, but Jones is a prime example of a "dog learning new tricks" and he will continue to improve as WR. It would seem that's apparent to everyone but you.

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So why isn't David Reed still on the Team? For the same reason Doss will be gone after the season.  They both are unreliable as a KR or WR and they have low football IQs. They both failed miserably at key points in games, so their other "good" plays are really irrelevant. 

 

Think what you want, but Jones is a prime example of a "dog learning new tricks" and he will continue to improve as WR. It would seem that's apparent to everyone but you.

I agree with all of this. Also Jones is clutch and brings some energy to our ST along with Tucker. Jones has the "it" factor that dudes like Doss or Reed had.

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