Chances Jacoby Jones is back next year?

[Tank 92]

We need them both to stay.

 

Dragonfly(aka TDWTH) Is our X factor and has been improving as a WR. But given a choice between the two, I'd have to say Pitta is more important to the passing game, hands down.

[rmw10]

Evidently some people seem to be under the impression, that we can sign Jacoby to an inexpensive contract. I don't think it's a given. 

 

It's hard to guess right now.  On one hand, I think he could sign a pretty good contract from a team that has money to burn.  On the other hand, he's at the big 30, is an inconsistent 3rd WR, and KR's aren't terribly difficult to find.  I think his price has definitely gone up over the past couple of weeks, but how much?  I have no clue at this point.

[jazz1988]

Calvin Johnson before they got Reggie Bush this year was the core and the supporting cast and still routinely was a game changer as he produced huge explosive plays every game. So that is a false statement sir. Jacoby doesn't do it every game, but its the closest thing we have and it is extremely valuable in this league. I hope we can retain Monroe, Jacoby and Pitta, but I just don't think Pitta deserves top tight end money. He has never had a season over 700 yards why should we pay him like he is Jimmy Graham or Gronk. 700 yards can be replaced for much cheaper by drafting a TE in the first or second round this year, it is a pretty good talent crop of them unlike last year.

 

Calvin Johnson is a explosive guy also one of the best receivers in the league but even he needs help which is one of reason why the lions had to find  a good running back and a good receiver that can make plays when Johnson can't(they still searching for that receiver actually). I love Jacoby Jones I hope he's a raven next year but if he isn't  honestly I believe the ravens will be fine.

 

Pitta in my opinion is one of the best tight ends in the league and he may not be explosive like the other tight ends   but the guy is still great.I doubt he gets Graham or Gronk money but If he does then that's cool it must means the ravens believe he deserves it plus it ain't coming out my wallet so why should I care lol .

[baltravens]

Man, reflecting back, where would we be without Jacoby Jones just dating back to the playoffs last year? I do not think at all that we as Ravens fans would have the same state of jubilation without him.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Man, reflecting back, where would we be without Jacoby Jones just dating back to the playoffs last year? I do not think at all that we as Ravens fans would have the same state of jubilation without him.

Agreed. I don't even think this should come down to pitting (no pun intended) Pitta vs Jacoby. They both are bleed true purple and black, are great guys that give back to the community and will help to build this dynasty. The money is there (15 million available) and a leader in Joe that doesn't want to be without them and willing to adjust and delay salary in order to keep them. This is not a choice between two players. It's trust in 'the best franchise in the last 5 years' to build a dynasty.

 

I think the Ravens are up to this.

[CorvusCorax]

The team, the fans and the organization have a strong appreciation for Jacoby Jones. I doubt he will find the same type of admiration and appreciation at another organization.

 

More teams have huge QB issues than receiving issues as I see it.

 

I hope he can somehow stay. Unfortunately I know it's part of the business.

[K-Dog]

dang salary cap.

[AsianRice]

I think Ozzie will find a way to keep Jacoby.....It's sad to see him go though.......

[rmw10]

This should make it a little bit easier if we really want him back.  Cap is higher than anticipated.

 

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer

Projected cap numbers for the following year are typically distributed at this meeting. NFL's projecting the '14 cap at $126.3 million

[gabefergy]

This should make it a little bit easier if we really want him back.  Cap is higher than anticipated.

 

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer

Projected cap numbers for the following year are typically distributed at this meeting. NFL's projecting the '14 cap at $126.3 million

So that's about an extra 3M? Could be the difference in signing a guy like Ihedigbo or Jones.

[rmw10]

So that's about an extra 3M? Could be the difference in signing a guy like Ihedigbo or Jones.

 

Yeah most were projecting $122-123M or so.  That $126M number isn't finalized, but even if they settle around $125M-ish, that still gives a bit of extra wiggle room.  That could even bode well for Arthur Jones, too.

[gabefergy]

Yeah most were projecting $122-123M or so. That $126M number isn't finalized, but even if they settle around $125M-ish, that still gives a bit of extra wiggle room. That could even bode well for Arthur Jones, too.

With a couple cuts and a potential Suggs restructuring, we could get to about 100M. That provides us with quite a bit of room to work with.

[rmw10]

With a couple cuts and a potential Suggs restructuring, we could get to about 100M. That provides us with quite a bit of room to work with.

 

Exactly.  Depending on how everything is structured too, you could get quite a few guys under that limit.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

With a couple cuts and a potential Suggs restructuring, we could get to about 100M. That provides us with quite a bit of room to work with.

With 125+ million cap and Ravens being projected to be at $107 million committed and possibly -$10 million after restructuring contracts really makes the possibility of seeing Jacoby and Pitta back in black and purple pretty reasonable...priceless.

[rmw10]

With 125+ million cap and Ravens being projected to be at $107 million committed and possibly -$10 million after restructuring contracts really makes the possibility of seeing Jacoby and Pitta back in black and purple pretty reasonable...priceless.

 

We're at approximately $112M right now including the dead money.  There is approximately $5-$6.5M to be saved through cuts, and there's also the potential extension of Suggs to lower his cap number.  Either way, we're probably looking at $20M-ish to play with if the cap comes in at $126M.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

We're at approximately $112M right now including the dead money.  There is approximately $5-$6.5M to be saved through cuts, and there's also the potential extension of Suggs to lower his cap number.  Either way, we're probably looking at $20M-ish to play with if the cap comes in at $126M.

Agreed. It looks like the Suggs' negotiations during his contract signing was designed specifically with this upcoming year's team needs in mind. I think the Ravens will be in great shape. The front office and player loyalty is sometimes underrated by outsiders, but Ravens get it done year after year.

[Cville-Raven]

I'm sure some team will throw money at him

[Davesta]

I know tucker, jimmy smith, and elam are getting all the love right now, but jacoby is our unsung hero! that kick off return and the 3&15 catch to set up the game winning FG. CLUTCH!!!! I really hope we bring him back. He's like the nate robinson of the NFL, provides the spark when we need it most. I'll be so bummed if we let him go and dont draft marqise lee (lol but thats a different topic).

[rmw10]

When you need a big play, Jacoby makes it. Really hope he's back, but money is always the issue.

[beanfigger]

He is definitely our most clutch player outside of Joe and Justin.

[ChrisMPark]

I was very worried about what Jacoby would make out to be coming from Houston, but he's proved time and time again that he's a clutch performer! I love him as a Raven. I hope he retires as one.

[Footman DCXLV]

Another clutch performance by Jacoby. That's absolutely the word for him. Maybe he isn't a "#1" receiver, but as a player on this team, he comes up big when we need him, every week. This year, moreso than any other offensive player.

[Free Agent]

Another clutch performance by Jacoby. That's absolutely the word for him. Maybe he isn't a "#1" receiver, but as a player on this team, he comes up big when we need him, every week. This year, moreso than any other offensive player.

 

That's how I've felt about him: as a receiver, he isn't a consistent, every-down, move the chains kind of receiver. But he's playmaker. He makes the plays when they need to be made, both as a returner and as a receiver. Very clutch player indeed.

[redlobster]

This is the issue I see now, he will get paid something next year due to his kick return ability alone, but where does he fit in? Torrey is obviously #1, Marlon is at worst #3, plus the Ravens have to draft a top tier WR next year. So if they draft a top tier WR that becomes #1, Torrey # 2 (torrey and rookie are interchangable depending on who is drafted, ie - lee, evans, watkins etc), Marlon # 3, Jacoby becomes # 4 , do you overpay for a potentially # 4 receiver?

[H8ME]

This is the issue I see now, he will get paid something next year due to his kick return ability alone, but where does he fit in? Torrey is obviously #1, Marlon is at worst #3, plus the Ravens have to draft a top tier WR next year. So if they draft a top tier WR that becomes #1, Torrey # 2 (torrey and rookie are interchangable depending on who is drafted, ie - lee, evans, watkins etc), Marlon # 3, Jacoby becomes # 4 , do you overpay for a potentially # 4 receiver?

 

They'll be drafting late in the first round and drafting a WR that would be ready to start right away is highly unlikely. 

 

Plus, this year's priority should be OL and DL along w/the fact Jacoby is a game changer and way better than a #4 receiver.

[redlobster]

They'll be drafting late in the first round and drafting a WR that would be ready to start right away is highly unlikely. 

 

Plus, this year's priority should be OL and DL along w/the fact Jacoby is a game changer and way better than a #4 receiver.

 

Corderelle Patterson and Deandre Hopkins disagree with your assessment that drafting a WR deep in the 1st isn't ready to start.

 

Hopkins has almost 800 yards receiving playing with Schaub and Keenum.

 

Patterson proved why he is dynamic last week and would be lighting it up if he didnt have cassell/ponder/freeman throwing to him.

 

How about keenan Allen in the third round? Jacoby is at best a 3rd receiver

[PuRock]

Jacoby is definitely our X-factor player.  When you need a big spark, you can usually guess who will provide it offensively (or on returns).

[Poes Crows]

Corderelle Patterson and Deandre Hopkins disagree with your assessment that drafting a WR deep in the 1st isn't ready to start.

 

Hopkins has almost 800 yards receiving playing with Schaub and Keenum.

 

Patterson proved why he is dynamic last week and would be lighting it up if he didnt have cassell/ponder/freeman throwing to him.

 

How about keenan Allen in the third round? Jacoby is at best a 3rd receiver

 

With the Baltimore Ravens, it is not accurate to rank receivers 1,2,3,4.  It's a fallacy and just doesn't work with us.

 

We have possession receivers and big play receivers. We are not wired like Detroit, whose #1 is clear.  We are not wired like Chicago, whose number 1 and 2 are clear. (At least that they are in some order 1 and 2).

 

Every time we read in this forum, this guy or that guy is our number 1 or our number 3, or not capable of being a number 2, so he's expendable. We laugh with incredulity.  What is this a John Gruden best receiver forum?

 

Come on man enough with the rankings, its time wasted.

[ravensdfan]

With the Baltimore Ravens, it is not accurate to rank receivers 1,2,3,4.  It's a fallacy and just doesn't work with us.

 

We have possession receivers and big play receivers. We are not wired like Detroit, whose #1 is clear.  We are not wired like Chicago, whose number 1 and 2 are clear. (At least that they are in some order 1 and 2).

 

Every time we read in this forum, this guy or that guy is our number 1 or our number 3, or not capable of being a number 2, so he's expendable. We laugh with incredulity.  What is this a John Gruden best receiver forum?

 

Come on man enough with the rankings, its time wasted.

 

 

I agree actually. 

 

I would love for us to be able to retain Jacoby. I think he's a play maker for us both as a WR & on ST. We do have players that will be a higher priority though. Just have to see if they can get it done or if he wants more money than we're willing to invest.

[Poes Crows]

I agree actually. 

 

I would love for us to be able to retain Jacoby. I think he's a play maker for us both as a WR & on ST. We do have players that will be a higher priority though. Just have to see if they can get it done or if he wants more money than we're willing to invest.

 

He's worth a raise at a short term deal, say 3 years.

 

You know his hands have improved substantially. He hauled down that overthrown Flacco pass for the field possession that gave us the winning field goal.

 

He also gets open. Has anyone noticed when the ball goes to Jacoby more times than not he's clear. Why is that?

 

We are not wired like a lot of other teams. Flacco is not a 70% passer.  We throw downfield more than other teams. If we had a better running game that would be even more effective.