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Chances Jacoby Jones is back next year?

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Letting Jones go wouldn't create much of a revolving door situation. Assuming Pitta is re-signed, Joe will have him, Torrey, Brown and Doss back next season. I'd rather see that group along with an early-round WR draft pick continue to grow with Joe over the long-term. 

 

 

Had Pitta not gone, we wouldn't have missed Q's production as much. 

 

Pitta has definitely been a key missing piece. Not having a dependable TE makes it much more difficult for the WR to find space. 

 

JJ has improved and I think his ceiling may be a little higher than most here believe. At the right price, we need to keep him.

 

Torrey and Marlon will be here, but I'm not so sure about Doss.  While showing some value in the return game, he's proving to be who he was prior to being cut.  To go along with his butta fingers, he just doesn't seem to have good football sense, if you get my meaning.

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I'm a little surprised to see so many in favor of letting him go after that big performance against the Jets. Jacoby is the second best receiver and the best return man on this team. I don't think that's really even questionable at this point. Tandon Doss came back with that punt return in Houston, then caught the long pass when his defender fell down on fourth down a few games later. Other than that, he's still done a whole lot of not catching what was thrown to him, and making poor decisions on punt returns. And, we all love Marlon Brown, but he's not an every-game receiver just yet. Maybe he can take a step forward next year, but that remains to be seen. Meanwhile, Jacoby clearly has developed more chemistry with Joe since the end of last season, and could take a punt or kickoff back at any time. Sure, the cap will be the deciding factor, but we saw how our passing game looked with only one proven receiver for the first six or eight games before Jacoby was 100%. Would he really be "not worth the money" to avoid going through that again?
If Jacoby continues to play the way he has since coming back for the rest of the season, there's no way we can let him walk. Looking at our free agents for next year, the only guys I think we need to bring back are Jacoby, Pitta (who hopefully won't cost as much after a year off), and Daryl Smith. I really hope we can bring back Ihedigbo and Arthur Jones, too, but I consider them more replaceable. 

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Pitta has definitely been a key missing piece. Not having a dependable TE makes it much more difficult for the WR to find space. 

 

JJ has improved and I think his ceiling may be a little higher than most here believe. At the right price, we need to keep him.

 

Torrey and Marlon will be here, but I'm not so sure about Doss.  While showing some value in the return game, he's proving to be who he was prior to being cut.  To go along with his butta fingers, he just doesn't seem to have good football sense, if you get my meaning.

 

There's no more upside with Jones. He turns 30 next year; we've already seen his ceiling. He's good for plays like we saw against the Jets but he's no more than a situational deep threat. 

 

Regarding Doss, he certainly makes boneheaded plays but he's an effective returner and is better on short and intermediate routes than Jones. With Pitta likely back next year, Marlon hopefully taking a step in his development and the running game improving, Torrey will be allowed to go deep more often, lessening the need for a strict deep threat like Jacoby. Personally, I'd rather see a younger players with long-term upside battle to be the third and fourth receiving options. 

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Zero chance, will command/want too much money. Team needs to draft a top tier receiver to go along with Smith and Brown.

We do an EXCELLENT job at drafting stud WR's... 

 

Most productive WR's we ever had has come from other teams, ie. D. Mason (Tenn), A. Boldin (ARI) Q. Ismail (MIN).

 

Not only would we have to replace a glaring hole at WR immediately, but PR/KR too. Would we really want Doss back there again? Not me. I hope they can re-sign Jacoby for another year until we can find an legit replacement.

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There's no more upside with Jones. He turns 30 next year; we've already seen his ceiling. He's good for plays like we saw against the Jets but he's no more than a situational deep threat. 

 

Regarding Doss, he certainly makes boneheaded plays but he's an effective returner and is better on short and intermediate routes than Jones. With Pitta likely back next year, Marlon hopefully taking a step in his development and the running game improving, Torrey will be allowed to go deep more often, lessening the need for a strict deep threat like Jacoby. Personally, I'd rather see a younger players with long-term upside battle to be the third and fourth receiving options. 

 

 

Well, I seem to disagree with you here on both counts. Jacoby had an opportunity this year to step up and be an everyday receiver and worked hard to improve. That effort was kind of short circuited by Trawick. He's definitely now being used in more short and intermediate routes and has been effective. He does still have some issues, but I think he still has more than what we have seen. No need to expound on his kick return abilities, he's one of the best. I hear you concerning keeping younger players, but 29 is hardly over the hill.

 

Doss is another player(think David Reed) that has tons of ability, but lacks good football instincts. He's an accident waiting to happen. We didn't cut him for nothing(in his 3rd season?) and he's only on this Team because of injuries.

 

I could be completely wrong about both, I don't know.  It did happen once 6 or 7 years ago.  :P

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         let J.J see what he is worth on the market, I like our young guys,now this may get a few people upset ,, cause I see torrey smith as a number 2,he is good but i want that guy who will get separation or when double teamed still find a way to catch the ball . we need a big fast wr maybe it could be marlon brown,,                                                                                                                       Anybody know his 40 time          

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I love Jacoby, and no matter what happens to him from here some of my favourite memories as a Ravens fan will include that Mile High Miracle, and his brilliant Super Bowl performance.

 

I'd like to see him kept on with what he offers our offence and special teams, but he's a clear #5 in re-signing priorities, behind Monroe, Pitta, D. Smith and A. Jones.

 

If he sticks around for the right price, there will always be a space for him on the team.

 

But if not, we'll get a really nice compensatory pick for him and I really think we'll find someone to take a more permanent role in the offence. Ozzie's gotten significantly better at snapping up good WRs and this year's class is a nice one.

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Zero chance, will command/want too much money. Team needs to draft a top tier receiver to go along with Smith and Brown.

 

 

Agreed!We need a legit #2(or #1 depending on how you feel about Torrey Smith).Jones is a #3 with great kick return skills.

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I think we should bring in Kenny Britt next off season.The titans are doing us a huge favor this season by refusing to give him playing time.He only has like 8 catches and 67 yards.That's crazy for someone with his talent.I think he could be had for about a $2.5 - 3.5 mil one year contract which would be a bargain.

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We do an EXCELLENT job at drafting stud WR's...

Most productive WR's we ever had has come from other teams, ie. D. Mason (Tenn), A. Boldin (ARI) Q. Ismail (MIN).

Not only would we have to replace a glaring hole at WR immediately, but PR/KR too. Would we really want Doss back there again? Not me. I hope they can re-sign Jacoby for another year until we can find an legit replacement.

Doss is fine as a PR/4th WR and he won't cost nearly as much. If Jones wants to come back for cheap so be it, but hr is currently making way too much money for his role. You think he will take a significant paycut?

BTW, Torrey Smith has turned out pretty well in case you forgot about him.

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Doss is fine as a PR/4th WR and he won't cost nearly as much.

 

 

 

I guess him getting benched Sunday didn't convince you.  :P

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I guess him getting benched Sunday didn't convince you.  :P

 

We don't go empty very often so fourth wide receiver isn't that big of a deal.  I don't think he's wrong in saying that.  I just wouldn't trust Doss on third down, at least right now.

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I doubt we resign him.  The next pieces we add, I would like them to actually stick around.  Hope we can draft someone who can play the slot and outside.  Marlon has a lot of potential.  I think he has the most receiving TDs for a rookie wr.  

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We don't go empty very often so fourth wide receiver isn't that big of a deal.  I don't think he's wrong in saying that.  I just wouldn't trust Doss on third down, at least right now.

 

 

Tandon is only here as a band aid. We cut him and "surprisingly" he was still available when we were down to 3 healthy receivers. It was looking like maybe he had an epiphany after his vacation, but unfortunately it's looking more like he is who we thought he was.

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Tandon is only here as a band aid. We cut him and "surprisingly" he was still available when we were down to 3 healthy receivers. It was looking like maybe he had an epiphany after his vacation, but unfortunately it's looking more like he is who we thought he was.

 

We can survive if he gets injured, which makes him an appealing PR to me.  I cringe anytime I see Webb back there.

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I watch Webby back in our secondary every week.  He seems to get better every game.  Our secondary is set up to stop guys like Jacoby...  I think it's great they get to practice against these guys...  Torrey, Marlon, and Jacoby.   Jimmy has stepped it up, he's not getting smoked as much...  Mattie Elam is gonna be a beast... Corey Graham, I loved him last year.  He has been the biggest disappointment of them all this year.... That was until this past week...  He redeemed himself. 

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We do an EXCELLENT job at drafting stud WR's... 

 

Most productive WR's we ever had has come from other teams, ie. D. Mason (Tenn), A. Boldin (ARI) Q. Ismail (MIN).

 

Not only would we have to replace a glaring hole at WR immediately, but PR/KR too. Would we really want Doss back there again? Not me. I hope they can re-sign Jacoby for another year until we can find an legit replacement.

 

"Glaring Hole"...not really.  He produces a big play here and there but that's it.  The only reason he is seeing real action is because Marlon Brown was injured.  Jacoby has reached his peak so we aren't losing too too much.

 

With that said, I still want to keep him.  However I do not value him over Monroe, Pitta, D. Smith and Arthur Jones.  If we have money left over, yeah, keep him.  But those guys will be much harder to replace than Jacoby.  

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I don't think he comes back. I'm not for it, nor against it.

No matter what happens he'll forever be linked in my memory with his great play in our incredible 2012 post and regular season.

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I'd rather Ravens spend our tight cap on Monroe & Daryl.    Thanks for the SB jacoby!

whoa before Daryl Smith I'd Resign Eugene Monroe and Michael Oher

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I guess him getting benched Sunday didn't convince you. :P

He had a bad game. It happens. If you haven't seen his contributions to this team as both a PR and WR you are a blind hater.

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I would hate to see Jacoby go. He'd be great here, he alone helps our franchise because he is one of the few players on our team that is likable. He brought us fans with his dances alone lol. 

 

But aside from the silly stuff, he isn't replaceable on our team, we don't have anyone on his level yet. We can talk potential and isolated incidents all we want but much like Boldin, no one on our roster is filling his shoes tomorrow. 

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as many big plays as he makes and as valued he is as a returner, he won't be a priority FA signing for us - there are Monroe, Pitta and Daryl to take care of before him; then there's guys like A Jones that we might want to hold on to, but we won't go into war bids for him; some small deals maybe for Cody, Graham and Diggs, probably Dickson too: Oher won't be resigned

to summarize, i think gabe was right that JJ might be back only on a vet minimum or a small contract like D Reed got before we shipped him to Indy

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He had a bad game. It happens. If you haven't seen his contributions to this team as both a PR and WR you are a blind hater.

Not a blind hater, just a frustrated supporter. I had hoped he had turned the corner, but it's not just one bad game, he's dropped numerous passes and is a fumble concern every time he touches the ball. He makes bad decisions and just doesn't have good "football sense". There are reasons he went unsigned for almost two months after we released him. Tandon was resigned because we were in a bind and he has contributed as an emergency fill in. But just like David Reed he can't be trusted and I doubt that he is on next year's roster.

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It would be great of this front office to keep at least two familiar targets for Flacco. Every year Joe has to rebuild confidence in new targets. As hard as Flacco throws it takes WR some time to get used to the speed of his passes. Need proof? Clark never wore gloves until he came to Baltimore.

Ozzie is great with all picks except WR. Year after year we struggle to develop a solid WR corps. Smith is a huge talent, blind squirrel and a nut. Doss is not worth keeping around. Reminds of of David Reed, thank God he is gone.

Keep JJ pay him and have two familiar faces on the field with Joe.

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Just like Boldin, great thinking.........

Boldin wasn't asking for a raise.

 

He was under contract, the Powers that Were didn't want to pay him what they'd agreed to.

 

They must have thought Joe was a Superman. We're playing better now, but they clearly misjudged more than was reasonable. 

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