Mcgahee

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='ravens world' post='100423' date='Dec 7 2008, 11:44 PM']Ok this topic is to talk about him and how you feel about his future with the ravens i think he needs to go and hes gone after this seasoun its not about him having injuries 80 % of nfl players have injuries. Its about him not wanting to play football because to me it just seems he doesnt want to play football and we dont need a player like that . How does everyone else feel about mcgahee know a days .[/quote]
I agree with your post. Mcgahee has not shown us another this year. I think we should cut him to free up calary

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='ravens world' post='100423' date='Dec 7 2008, 11:44 PM']Ok this topic is to talk about him and how you feel about his future with the ravens i think he needs to go and hes gone after this seasoun its not about him having injuries 80 % of nfl players have injuries. Its about him not wanting to play football because to me it just seems he doesnt want to play football and we dont need a player like that . How does everyone else feel about mcgahee know a days .[/quote]
I agree with your post. Mcgahee has not shown us another this year. I think we should cut him to free up calary

[PurpleClawsOfFURY]

Looks like Ray Rice might not be 100% sunday so like him or not Mcgahee has to step up and help out McClain this week. So support your player whos a real trooper

[rlh445]

[quote name='kash96ravenstotalfan' post='101149' date='Dec 8 2008, 11:11 PM']I agree with your post. Mcgahee has not shown us another this year. I think we should cut him to free up calary[/quote]


Heh..as has been explained numerous times, cutting McGahee would NOT free up cap space..it would actually cost more to cut him then to bench him the rest of the season. Besides..we're not going to cut the guy when we need him. Yes, he is playing himself right out of the starting position, and out of a lot of fans' hearts. Which I think he deserves for not being game ready, at any time during the season thus far. Anita Marks mentioned the Houston game, which I laughed at. One game does not a player make. He needed to take that game and use it as momentum to play well EVERY game. He didn't, and the skepticism he's receiving is well deserved. Harbs is a good man, he's gonna stick by Willis because he said he would. I respect that, and I hope Willis can turn it around at some point. Le'Ron can't play a full game as the only back, he was pretty winded after 11 plays. He still got it done, but obviously would need to really work on the stamina portion of his workout routine in the off-season. We need every back we have. And, while I agree that Willis has really fallen off, what is that pesky TEAM stuff about? Helping your buds get back on the wagon and help them become better, in spite of themselves. I hope that the offense and defensive guys get around him and help him to shake whatever it is that has his head out of the game. It's not injuries, it's something else.

[ravens world]

mcgahee was great last year but that was fricken last year bottom line hasnt dont nothing this year and injuries are not realy excuses cause every player gets injured look at portis hes injuried just as bad as mcgahee but he comes to play every week

[Tiz]

I'm frustrated with his lack of performance this year especially after seeing him be the offense last year. I to think he's not needed because of the production we are getting from Ray and Mcclain. I'll feel more comfortable in saying he should go as I see Ray break more long runs until then I'm hesitant to say Willis should leave but I'm fully aware that any bad attitude he has, has a chance to bring down the guys around him...

[kze]

He had a great year last year, he has a bad year this season. How about you guys wait and see how he performs next year before all of you toss him under the buss? In my humble opinion he's at LEAST worth that.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='kze' post='101241' date='Dec 9 2008, 09:51 AM']He had a great year last year, he has a bad year this season. How about you guys wait and see how he performs next year before all of you toss him under the buss? In my humble opinion he's at LEAST worth that.[/quote]
This is a "what have you done for me lately" league... Players need to produce, especially when you give him 15 million dollars. No way you give him that not expecting at least some production...

Of course fans aren't happy.... he was our big get of the offseason last year, and he hasn't been healthy or productive at all this year. I think he needs to just work harder this offseason to make next season more productive

[kze]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='101252' date='Dec 9 2008, 04:55 PM']This is a "what have you done for me lately" league... Players need to produce, especially when you give him 15 million dollars. No way you give him that not expecting at least some production...

Of course fans aren't happy.... he was our big get of the offseason last year, and he hasn't been healthy or productive at all this year. I think he needs to just work harder this offseason to make next season more productive[/quote]


Of course he has to produce. But being obnoxious and turning your back on him because of one season just isn't right. The team is doing fine right now, so it's not like he's holding us back.
I'm wanting to believe this season will spark a fire under him for the upcoming season... and until then I won't turn my back on him. Remember, players DO have bad seasons.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

I posted this in the Unbalanced Line thread, but thought it would fit here quite nicely:

Week 14 isn't the time for us to see if a RB is "out of his slump". This year McGahee is averaging only 3.4 yards/carry. He has only gone over 4.0 yards/carry 3 times out of 10 games played with a long of 17. To the contrary, when McClain has had more than 5 touches he is averaging over 4.3 yards/carry with a long of 28. Rice is averaging over 4.2 yards/carry with a long of 60! Rice is averaging almost 7 carries less per game played than McGahee and only has 67 less total rush yards. McGahee is averaging 4.4 yards more than Rice even with 7 more touches per game.

As I have said before, I honestly believe that McGahee has lost that fire, is injured or whatever. That being said, why would you not start Rice? Why would you not give the man more touches? He is a smaller, quicker, faster version of McGahee but can also make a man miss in the open field. Something I haven't seen McGahee do in quite some time!

Just a thought.

[VA_Fan]

Even Mike Preston agrees. I never like his columns but this made sense for once.

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[funky141]

I find it funny how some of you want to just toss a RB out the back door after one poor season. Yea its been frustrating at times watching McGahee run and get no yards but he is a proven RB in the NFL and I believe the Ravens with 3 good RB are better than 1 or 2.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='funky141' post='101311' date='Dec 9 2008, 03:08 PM']I find it funny how some of you want to just toss a RB out the back door after one poor season. Yea its been frustrating at times watching McGahee run and get no yards but he is a proven RB in the NFL and I believe the Ravens with 3 good RB are better than 1 or 2.[/quote]


Why lose games with a RB who is obviously injured and struggling this season when we have 2 healthy ones who get the job done for us? Sounds stupid to me.

[rlh445]

[quote name='funky141' post='101311' date='Dec 9 2008, 02:08 PM']I find it funny how some of you want to just toss a RB out the back door after one poor season. Yea its been frustrating at times watching McGahee run and get no yards but he is a proven RB in the NFL and I believe the Ravens with 3 good RB are better than 1 or 2.[/quote]


Why is that funny to you? Do you think we should be content to let McGahee fumble our hopes away and then give him cake and ice cream for it? What are we supposed to say? 'Meh, let's wait until next season.' Why?? We are doing awesome right now, and yet he seems to be the only back on this team willing to let it all go down the drain. Why should we be satisfied with that? Why should the Ravens be satisfied with that? I think it's funny that you would be baffled at the lack of support from the fans regarding Willis at this point.

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='I*Bleed*Purple' post='101269' date='Dec 9 2008, 12:06 PM']I posted this in the Unbalanced Line thread, but thought it would fit here quite nicely:

Week 14 isn't the time for us to see if a RB is "out of his slump". This year McGahee is averaging only 3.4 yards/carry. He has only gone over 4.0 yards/carry 3 times out of 10 games played with a long of 17. To the contrary, when McClain has had more than 5 touches he is averaging over 4.3 yards/carry with a long of 28. Rice is averaging over 4.2 yards/carry with a long of 60! Rice is averaging almost 7 carries less per game played than McGahee and only has 67 less total rush yards. McGahee is averaging 4.4 yards more than Rice even with 7 more touches per game.

As I have said before, I honestly believe that McGahee has lost that fire, is injured or whatever. That being said, why would you not start Rice? Why would you not give the man more touches? He is a smaller, quicker, faster version of McGahee but can also make a man miss in the open field. Something I haven't seen McGahee do in quite some time!

Just a thought.[/quote]

Actually, as a group they are all averaging under 4 yards a carry and individually only Rice is over that. He's averaging 4.1 or 4.2 and like you said that is including a 60 yard run. Without that he'd be down around 3.5 yards a carry too. Fact is our backs are doing enough to get the job done but not necessarily dominating anyone. Teams are stacking the box to make Joe beat them. Great rookie or not every team, including us, would do that against a rookie QB and its tough to have a great average when you're constantly outnumbered in the running game.

[StetSports.com]

McGahee has to go. THey have two good young backs in McClain and Rice, who combined could stretch out defenses much better than McGahee. He has a bloated salary and a propensity for injuries.

It will be hard to do so, but he's gotta go.

[url="http://www.stetsports.com/2008/12/09/stuck-on-willis-mcgahee/"]http://www.stetsports.com/2008/12/09/stuck...willis-mcgahee/[/url]

[Ravens_fan]

A few people have mentioned Anita Marks unwavering love for poor Willis. It's not surprising to me because Anita has a myspace page, and her #1 friend is Mcgahee. He has had what, one or two good games this season. Something is up with the guy, hopefully he'll get it in gear.

[Ravens52]

He's been a good mentor to Rice and McClain (According to sources) which is the least he can do for preforming poorly. Maybe keep him around to mentor them some more.

[kze]

Jesus Christ, you people make it sound like he fumbles 5times a game. He has 3 fumbles... and so does McClain. Fine, all of McGahee's fumbles have resulted in a turnover. For the last time, he hasn't performed this year, and might not do so this year either, but I'd rather wait until next season and see what he brings before thinking about trading/releasing/stabbing him in the back like most of you do now.

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='101322' date='Dec 9 2008, 02:21 PM']Why lose games with a RB who is obviously injured and struggling this season when we have 2 healthy ones who get the job done for us? Sounds stupid to me.[/quote]
Ahhhh! Which two healthy RB's are you talking about Rice may not play next week with injury. Should we still sit McGahee on the bench and go with the guy we just singed from Mia. practice squad and McClain as the starter? Let me amswer that for everyone . NOOOOOOOOO!

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='kze' post='101416' date='Dec 9 2008, 04:05 PM']Jesus Christ, you people make it sound like he fumbles 5times a game. He has 3 fumbles... and so does McClain. Fine, all of McGahee's fumbles have resulted in a turnover. For the last time, he hasn't performed this year, and might not do so this year either, but I'd rather wait until next season and see what he brings before thinking about trading/releasing/stabbing him in the back like most of you do now.[/quote]


Was Willis the only player on Sunday to drop the ball or make a mistake? No! Is Willis having a good year? No! When you come up with all of the crazy trades and cuts, do you really even know what you are talking about when it comes to the salary cap? NOOOOOO!

[XxI_AM_KINGxX]

[quote name='ravens world' post='100423' date='Dec 8 2008, 12:44 AM']Ok this topic is to talk about him and how you feel about his future with the ravens i think he needs to go and hes gone after this seasoun its not about him having injuries 80 % of nfl players have injuries. Its about him not wanting to play football because to me it just seems he doesnt want to play football and we dont need a player like that . How does everyone else feel about mcgahee know a days .[/quote]

As much as i love McGahee, the guy just cannot stay healthy. to me thats the problem here.

[Gwaihir]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='101454' date='Dec 9 2008, 05:59 PM']Was Willis the only player on Sunday to drop the ball or make a mistake? No! Is Willis having a good year? No! When you come up with all of the crazy trades and cuts, do you really even know what you are talking about when it comes to the salary cap? NOOOOOO! [/quote]

I get tired of posting the Salary Cap implications! Everyone just seems to ignore it! He's back next year, Cap hit of 3.12 Million, if we cut him Cap Hit of11.25 Million. There is still 8.13 Million of dead money owed him! We can't afford to cut or trade him!

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='Gwaihir' post='101462' date='Dec 9 2008, 05:09 PM']I get tired of posting the Salary Cap implications! Everyone just seems to ignore it! He's back next year, Cap hit of 3.12 Million, if we cut him Cap Hit of11.25 Million. There is still 8.13 Million of dead money owed him! We can't afford to cut or trade him![/quote]


Thank you! We need to show some support for the guy and try to give him some fan motivation and not a bunch of bashing. Willie Parker is not having a good season either but I bet he is not getting bashed in from week to week.

[kze]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='101463' date='Dec 9 2008, 11:13 PM']Thank you! We need to show some support for the guy and try to give him some fan motivation and not a bunch of bashing. Willie Parker is not having a good season either but I bet he is not getting bashed in from week to week.[/quote]


I agree. Last year he showed us that he's a great back with lots of potential. He can do better and he sure deserves getting another season to show us that AGAIN before people give him too much bashing. So far McClain and Rice are getting the job done, so take it easy people.

[XxI_AM_KINGxX]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='101463' date='Dec 9 2008, 06:13 PM']Thank you! We need to show some support for the guy and try to give him some fan motivation and not a bunch of bashing. Willie Parker is not having a good season either but I bet he is not getting bashed in from week to week.[/quote]

Exactly. Willis is a good back. but it ain't gonna help if the fans keep bashin the guy week after week. i say we stick by him after this season.

[Perfekt]

this sounds like were sticking up for flacco LMAO

[ravensfan2430]

NOW- 2008- Willis has been hurt since before game 1, accumulating injuries in almost every game. With the lack of stats and visible loss of acceleration and quickness, it is obvious that he has under performed this year. Willis has also just come off of his worst game of the season.


THEN- 2007- Willis goes to pro bowl

It is hard for me to blame someone who has been playing in games (when allowed to) for not performing when he has had all of these injuries. There is rarely an excuse for fumbling , however, there is an excuse for not hitting the hole at full speed....... a bumb knee. Between the bad knee that i dont believe he was given enough time to heal and the numerous injuries over the season , im not sure how anyone could expect him to be in 2007 form.


With that said, willis shouldnt play until his knee has healed and we should keep him around next year because he still has the potential to produce and because of obvi. salary cap hit.

I still believe willis can play at a high level, but not until he gets his health back and rehads that knee

[K-Dog]

I HATE to say it.
I had every intention of being the LAST one on this band wagon.

I just have not seen Meghee do very much outstanding this season.
Maybe his hey day has come and gone.
Maybe his style doesnt fit with our O-line.
Maybe his blockers suck.

I dunno.
Rice & Mclain seem to have the job well secure.

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='njohnsonenator' post='100490' date='Dec 8 2008, 12:40 AM']Dude, it was absolutely painful to watch him play today. Can Anita Marks please shut up now about him being our "best back"..... i honestly thought he would be able to contribute, if we kept him healthy and such, and pound some big plays out in the clutch down the stretch......but it looked like he was trying to fail for some reason. Coughing up the ball twice, once leading to a touchdown--completely unacceptable. He's not a rookie. Joe's turnover was excusable, and the defense held them to 3--but McGahee's untimely turnover put the game within reach for the dreaded skins....and that is a painful thought to muse over for the next several years until we play them again. For now, thankfully, we own braggin' rights--but had McGahee had his way, well, we might not. I knew he was already gone after this year, but you'd think he's want to play well to get some bidders for next season. I bet he ends up at Cincy--the team notorious for the worst backs in the league. No complaints here. How about a Houshmandzadeh trade. What a bargain that would be, and to think how stupid that organization has been--we might have a very very good target. Someone call OZ!!!! AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS PURPLE AND BLACK---NO MCGAHEE IN THE STEELERS GAME!!! this is way too important!!!

I have an ubber crush on McClain :-) and I hope you all did your daily duty of voting a pro-bowl ballot for him (and REED, NGATA, PRYCE, LEWIS, SUGGS, KOCH, MASON) 2 more days......

now what am I to do with my 2 McGahee jerseys?!?![/quote]Try tp sell them on ebay or craiglist. Glad I didn't buy his jersey