Ed Reed

[frozen joe flacco fan]

I like it!  But I think the more likely scenario is that we sign him for a day to retire a Raven

Yeh! That's probably what would happen. It would be great to have a good traffic cop in the defensive backfield to direct the others against the likes of Marshall, Megatron, Gronkowski, Green, Holmes, etc. Ed "The Magician" Reed would be good at it. Besides, I'd hate to see him playing against us when NE comes to town.

[AlaskanRavensFan]

I would love to have Reed back. He's a Raven and will always be as far as I'm concerned. I think Webb, Smith, Graham and especially Elam would benefit from having him around. It would also help provide a leader on defense, which we are apparently missing (sarcasm there for those who couldn't tell). With Huff's release, signing Reed makes even more sense. We brought Huff in to be a veteran presence in the secondary. We all know that Reed would provide that and much more if he were to return.

 

My wife texted me that he was released and I was immediately excited about having him back on the Ravens. I was shouting while at my desk at work.

[D_UP]

He can't comeback. You can't bench 32 or 26 or have them looking over their shoulders.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

he was just with the texans to try to be hip to the kids

[Poes Crows]

I thought it was Ozzie's fault Reed was gone? Now it's on Harbaugh? Do I have to post the hugging pictures again? Or perhaps when he publicly defended Reed (and Lewis) from calls for them to be benched?

Ed took the money - good for him, he had been talking about money for years before. But his attitude and his play (or lack thereof) got him cut. He left Baltimore for money, we all wanted him back but not at $5M/year.

Maybe, but now we suck at safety....and Cleats is never gonna make the grade

[Poes Crows]

He can't comeback. You can't bench 32 or 26 or have them looking over their shoulders.

 

Wait a minute...the whole "Cleats is playing poorly because he's out of position argument" is solved by Reed's return correct?

 

Maybe that is the catalyst to bring the playoffs back.

 

Either that or CLANK....CLANK....CLANK.

 

the sound of leather bouncing off hands

[The Raven]

Lot of talk of having two strong safeties on the field, but does it really matter? They are getting it done at a high level, arguably better than our safeties last year. Period. Done. End of story. Bye bye.

[SomeCreepinaVan]

The Ravens have moved on after the Lewis-Reed era, and some of you fans need to move on to. Do you really think an old banged up Ed Reed is worth a spot over one of our current 52 because I don't. I'm really loving our new young secondary. 

 

The Ravens are not going to resign Reed as some back up player-coach just to appease some of these fans wild fantasies. Reed had 11 great years with us and a ring. Let it be.

[77rus]

Wait a minute...the whole "Cleats is playing poorly because he's out of position argument" is solved by Reed's return correct?

 

Maybe that is the catalyst to bring the playoffs back.

 

Either that or CLANK....CLANK....CLANK.

 

the sound of leather bouncing off hands

I have to say that I'm one of those fans who prefers to read the opinions. I don't usually write them.

You do have many negative posts, and while a lot of people disagree with them, I do believe your opinions have some validity to them. Elam is playing out of position, and he probably wasn't FO's first choice at safety. Others were better, but were gone by the time we had to pick.The point is, that your view of things is very much is black and white, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but life is most of the time is along of the shades of grey. I personally wish Q was still here. I want Reed back, and though I don't think he would play any better than "Cleats" there are many positives to have him on the squad. Still, bashing the FO and coaches...they aren't going to listen or pay attention.

I do believe that bringing Ed back might have a similar effect as firing Cam and getting Ray back had last year. But I also understand that it might backfire. All we can do is trust FO and support our team. Everything else is banging our head against the wall...

[RavensAllTheWay]

I'm fine if he doesn't come back.  His hip is hampering him way too much, and even fully healthy, he's not nearly what he used to be.  I also think the whole "emotional spark this team needs" thing is wishful thinking more than anything. There are a lot of new players on this team, many of which have never played with Ed before, so how would they be sparked? 

 

Of course I fully expect him (and want him) to sign a 1 day deal to retire here, and I hope it happens really soon because I don't want to see him play for another team either.  

[Poes Crows]

I have to say that I'm one of those fans who prefers to read the opinions. I don't usually write them.

You do have many negative posts, and while a lot of people disagree with them, I do believe your opinions have some validity to them. Elam is playing out of position, and he probably wasn't FO's first choice at safety. Others were better, but were gone by the time we had to pick.The point is, that your view of things is very much is black and white, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but life is most of the time is along of the shades of grey. I personally wish Q was still here. I want Reed back, and though I don't think he would play any better than "Cleats" there are many positives to have him on the squad. Still, bashing the FO and coaches...they aren't going to listen or pay attention.

I do believe that bringing Ed back might have a similar effect as firing Cam and getting Ray back had last year. But I also understand that it might backfire. All we can do is trust FO and support our team. Everything else is banging our head against the wall...

 

I understand your position.

 

My allegiance is not absolute, but neither are my criticisms.  The F.O. can win me back by managing to get this team to the playoffs.

 

There's plenty of fans in Cleveland, Detroit and Jacksonville that never question.

 

We had a very good team and key pieces were tossed away and questionable pieces were added.

[RavensAllTheWay]

I understand your position.

 

My allegiance is not absolute, but neither are my criticisms.  The F.O. can win me back by managing to get this team to the playoffs.

 

There's plenty of fans in Cleveland, Detroit and Jacksonville that never question.

 

We had a very good team and key pieces were tossed away and questionable pieces were added.

 

Dumervil > Kruger

Webb healthy > Cary

Monroe > McKinnie

 

Two of those key pieces were Ray and Birk, who retired.  No one else who we let go is making us look bad right now.  Our secondary isn't missing Pollards penalties or Eds missed tackles.  Marlon already has more TDs than Boldin did all of last year in the regular season.  

 

This is one of the best FOs in the league, period, end of story.  That holds true even if we do miss the playoffs this year.  We'll be back long term.

[77rus]

Dumervil > Kruger

Webb healthy > Cary

Monroe > McKinnie

 

Two of those key pieces were Ray and Birk, who retired.  No one else who we let go is making us look bad right now.  Our secondary isn't missing Pollards penalties or Eds missed tackles.  Marlon already has more TDs than Boldin did all of last year in the regular season.  

 

This is one of the best FOs in the league, period, end of story.  That holds true even if we do miss the playoffs this year.  We'll be back long term.

Let me play a devil's advocate here...not to say I completely

disagree.

Dumervil might be a wash with Kruger, as he disappears during games. And he just might be getting by his reputation.

Yes, Webb is way better then Cary, but we had Webb until he got hurt in Cowboys game...Corey substituted for Webb..so its Corey for Cary..and I honestly can't say one is better then another.

No argument from me on Monroe vs. McKinnie, although from the struggles we are seeing from the Oline, McKinnie wasn't the main problem.

Ray and Birk, again, no argument there. But you could say that Pollard's and Ed's playmaking made up for the penalties and missed tackles. They complemented each other. There is always the fear factor.

And finally Marlon and Q. Yes, Marlon has more TDs and I absolutely love his potential, but he doesn't have Q's instincts and abilities yet. Marlon has more TDs, but compare their 3rd down conversions...Plus with Q on the field, the same time last year, Torrey had more TDs if I'm not mistaken.

We do have an amazing FO that puts us in a position to win more games then not. But nobody is perfect. The only way anyone can judge the offseason moves is at the end of the year. 

I have no doubt that we will be right back in the mix of things, but was this season worth sacrificing everything that we have so far just for the sake of the future...

[PurpleCityLights]

Reed was a Free Agent meaning his contract was up sooooooo why is people on here saying he left???............Oh never mind, I forgot this isn't a business to most fans.

[77rus]

I understand your position.

 

My allegiance is not absolute, but neither are my criticisms.  The F.O. can win me back by managing to get this team to the playoffs.

 

There's plenty of fans in Cleveland, Detroit and Jacksonville that never question.

 

We had a very good team and key pieces were tossed away and questionable pieces were added.

I would never agree to blind devotion...that's the truest way to lose yourself.  

However, you can't judge without being privy to everything that is going on with the team. And I'm sure that aforementioned team fans do question. Still there have to be some trust considering the results the team has accomplished the last 5 years.

I get the expectations, and the frustration with not getting the results we all wish, but as I mentioned before, banging our collective heads against the wall is still not going to bring around the results we wish for...Have faith!

[DefensiveMind]

Yelling "reeeeeeeeeeeeeed" while he runs out of the tunnel when I go to the patriots game would alone be enough  reason for me to want him back. Let him be a ceremonial starter for the last regular season game at M&T, pull him after a couple snaps, and let him retire a Raven, like it should be.

[ravensdfan]

The Ed Reed affair in Houston was not what it appears.

 

Houston crashed and burned. In the burning they began looking for reasons why. Ed's recent "Tweets" didn't help his cause. Upon reading them, I posted he appeared to be poisoning the water.

 

They singled out Schaub and Reed, but divesting themselves of those players is not going to resolve the inherent problem.

 

Read somewhere recently, that following stats alone is folly, as they pertain to football truer words were never spoken . You want Fantasy Football, you follow stats, you want to win, you start players who are winners. 

 

If you watched one of Diggers interceptions Sunday, it glanced off Cleats "Hands of Stone" Elam. It shot into the air as if out of a cannon.  Harder hands have rarely touched the ball in the NFL.  But I knew he had palms of granite long ago. Luckily Digger was there to round it up.  At the end of the game Digger tried to hand the game back to Cincinnati but made amends later.

 

We are weak at safety....as in fatal weak.  It was a HUGE mistake to not resign Ed Reed for one more year and of the following I am certain: he still has game, regardless of the chaos down in Texas.  Especially, for a team with safeties that are wishing and praying the big score is Not on them.  We suck at safety and if we don't make the playoffs it will be because of the play at Safety and the lack of a "Go To" clutch receiver.  But we've known that since April.

 

Reed had zero INTs and zero pass break-ups and only 12 tackles in 6 games. He is pretty much done as a player. Houston has problems outside of Reed, I agree, but they didn't demonize him. He wasn't getting the job done.

 

That said, Reed had a certain freedom here that he probably was not afforded in Houston. He was basically allowed to be a roamer in Baltimore and do what his instincts told him.

 

Your comments on Elam are ridiculous. The INT you mention, was far above Elam's head. He jumped for the ball and was lucky to even get a fingertip on it. That doesn't give him stone hands.

 

No matter though, because while we'd certainly like to see Elam picking off passes, he's paid to break them up as well.

 

Most here don't want Reed back to play. Reality is that Ozzie was proven correct in not resigning Ed Reed this season. Guess that sticks in your craw huh? lol

 

Bringing Reed back to Baltimore would offer an emotional boost to our team and nothing more. I could see using him in some situational football perhaps, but even that would be a stretch.

[airconteka1]

Maybe we can sign him up to that (hopefully) vacant run game coordinator position

[Guest Omerta]

We didn't make an offer.  We were prepared to move on without Reed.

 

The owner even said Oz had a number and Ed could meet it or walk. We were prepared sure but we also did give the man a number of what we would pay to have him back.

[cravnravn]

The owner even said Oz had a number and Ed could meet it or walk. We were prepared sure but we also did give the man a number of what we would pay to have him back.

 

Exactly, we did throw an offer at Greed, 

 

http://www.examiner.com/article/nfl-rumors-ravens-offer-ed-reed-three-year-deal-at-4-million-per-season

[JEEPercreepermd]

Realistically, no. Houston payed him all that money and he played very little. Ed would actually hurt this defense that is improving steadily every week. Elam and Ihedigbo are doing just fine IMO. There have been a few communication problems where a CB has been playing the wrongb technique expecting safety help..which has lead to a few big plays.but they are getting better.

Bringing in Reed and starting him would be counter intuitive

[TSizzle00]

Ravens made a mistake to not resign Reed? Rubbish, his hip has made him extremely hampered throughout the season.

[Tank 92]

Agree to disagree. Is he first ballot ? In all likelihood. Do I (as in me personally) think he should have the honor JO and Ray do ? No. It is just philosophical. you think they do, I think they dont. We move on.

 

 

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[bmorefan444]

I think its worth signing him just so we can avoid any chance of seeing him in a Patriots uniform.  

[Militant X 1]

That said, Reed had a certain freedom here that he probably was not afforded in Houston. He was basically allowed to be a roamer in Baltimore and do what his instincts told him.

 

Bringing Reed back to Baltimore would offer an emotional boost to our team and nothing more. I could see using him in some situational football perhaps, but even that would be a stretch.

I agree 100%.  because of his instincts, Ed was allowed to be a defensive "free lancer" for the Ravens.  sure, sometimes he'd get beat from doing that but he also provided us numerous of INT highlights that we've become accustomed to from our defense.  I doubt he had that role in Houston and therefore, as I mentioned before; he probably really didn't want to play there anymore.  imo, Ed would definitely provide an emotional uplift to this team.  after all, he's a future HOFer, won the Super Bowl and was just on the Ravens roster a few months ago so it isn't like the team doesn't know him or that he doesn't know the plays.  he's a legend!  he's our legend!  bring Ed Reed home!

 

#Mili

[Poes Crows]

Reed had zero INTs and zero pass break-ups and only 12 tackles in 6 games. He is pretty much done as a player. Houston has problems outside of Reed, I agree, but they didn't demonize him. He wasn't getting the job done.

 

That said, Reed had a certain freedom here that he probably was not afforded in Houston. He was basically allowed to be a roamer in Baltimore and do what his instincts told him.

 

Your comments on Elam are ridiculous. The INT you mention, was far above Elam's head. He jumped for the ball and was lucky to even get a fingertip on it. That doesn't give him stone hands.

 

No matter though, because while we'd certainly like to see Elam picking off passes, he's paid to break them up as well.

 

Most here don't want Reed back to play. Reality is that Ozzie was proven correct in not resigning Ed Reed this season. Guess that sticks in your craw huh? lol

 

Bringing Reed back to Baltimore would offer an emotional boost to our team and nothing more. I could see using him in some situational football perhaps, but even that would be a stretch.

 

I don't concur with a single word you used.

 

I'll stick to the elaborating upon one point, because its the lynchpin to all this.

 

That pass was not over Cleats head.  If Ed Reed got as much of his hands on it he'd of come down with the ball. We got the ball anyway, but that's not the issue. The point was Cleats struggled to reach the ball and judge the ball for the reasons we've been discussing all along and then when he did touch it he accelerated it with his hands of stone.  He sucks.

 

That was the last post on Cleats. You all will understand. Its just a question of realization.

[Poes Crows]

Let me play a devil's advocate here...not to say I completely

disagree.

Dumervil might be a wash with Kruger, as he disappears during games. And he just might be getting by his reputation.

Yes, Webb is way better then Cary, but we had Webb until he got hurt in Cowboys game...Corey substituted for Webb..so its Corey for Cary..and I honestly can't say one is better then another.

No argument from me on Monroe vs. McKinnie, although from the struggles we are seeing from the Oline, McKinnie wasn't the main problem.

Ray and Birk, again, no argument there. But you could say that Pollard's and Ed's playmaking made up for the penalties and missed tackles. They complemented each other. There is always the fear factor.

And finally Marlon and Q. Yes, Marlon has more TDs and I absolutely love his potential, but he doesn't have Q's instincts and abilities yet. Marlon has more TDs, but compare their 3rd down conversions...Plus with Q on the field, the same time last year, Torrey had more TDs if I'm not mistaken.

We do have an amazing FO that puts us in a position to win more games then not. But nobody is perfect. The only way anyone can judge the offseason moves is at the end of the year. 

I have no doubt that we will be right back in the mix of things, but was this season worth sacrificing everything that we have so far just for the sake of the future...

 

Finally, someone that is discerning!

 

I nominate you for the next Raven G.M. You're second may come relatively soon.

[codizzle]

I don't concur with a single word you used.

I'll stick to the elaborating upon one point, because its the lynchpin to all this.

That pass was not over Cleats head. If Ed Reed got as much of his hands on it he'd of come down with the ball. We got the ball anyway, but that's not the issue. The point was Cleats struggled to reach the ball and judge the ball for the reasons we've been discussing all along and then when he did touch it he accelerated it with his hands of stone. He sucks.

That was the last post on Cleats. You all will understand. Its just a question of realization.

Thanks for comparing a Rookie SS to possibly the greatest ballhawk of all time

That's why no one ever agrees with you

[Tank 92]

Hopefully no one picks him up, he decides to retire and we sign him for a day to retire a Raven. The only other possibility of him providing help to this org is as a coach.

[Militant X 1]

It put a huge smile on my face when Eric Davis of NFL AM said the following about a possible home for Ed Reed;

 

"The best new home for Ed Reed would be his former home; the Ravens!  That's the best spot for him!  That's the place where his voice carries.  His voice echoes the most there!  It carries the most weight there!  He has equity there!  And they would still listen to him and he could help that team."

 

Eric Davis went on to say; "Does anyone on this couch not view Ed Reed as a Raven?  Does anyone not believe that Ed Reed views himself as a Raven?  Going back into that locker room, this is a place that could deal with him.  They know his history!  They've dealt with his injuries.  They know that even if he is not full speed he can perform there!  And, that is why I say he has more equity there...than anywhere in the league!"

 

#Mili