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If you could change one thing right now, what would it be?

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I would do the same thing Donald Trump would do if he was the Ravens' owner.  I'd fire the HC & the GM. Letting Boldin go was a bonehead move, period.  Also, we knew the day was coming when some of our key players would retire.  Unlike some of the other better franchises in the league, it does not appear we had anyone "waiting in the wings" to take over when the key players finally retired. We should have been grooming their replacements long before now. Its easy to say that the Doss/Thompson combination has more than compensated for the loss of Boldin but they have not been the consistent "Go To" receivers like Q was. Our newly revamped defense isn't working too well either. 

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Our search for a new G.M. should be exhaustive, but YES, the Patriot Offices should be scrutinized closely.

 

They have never had a swoon from their Superbowl years.  The one year they missed the playoffs they were 10-6.

 

At this juncture I believe they have an excellent chance of going to the Championship game again.

 

Unlike us, when they struggled in games this year, they've won. That is the mark of a good team.

 

Their coach is broad minded. He understands his players have opinions.

 

Defense is being undermined. It's important, but old school Front Office minds are not right for the modern era. 

 

Yes I'd swap our front office for the front office of the Patriots in an instant, but our owner needs to begin a broad search for our new team.

 

So essentially you're saying you'd trade our entire FO for Belichick.  As he has final say over any player brought into the organization and does his own scouting on players identified by his scouting staff for him.  You'd also need to find a way to get arguably a top 3 QB of all time.

 

Good luck.

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I would make Pierce the primary back and Rice the change of pace.

 

I would give Joe full control of the offense and make our offense into a shotgun base formation running the no huddle. Id throw more quick slants, bubble screens and crossing routes. If the line cant protect, we need to throw the ball faster.

 

I would script the 1st few drives of every game, and practice it like a play rehearsal. Every step would be perfected to guarantee we get into rhythm early. Its been our biggest downfall.

 

I would let Omar Brown start at FS and move Elam to SS, and let Ihedigbo lead the ST unit.

 

Arthur Brown would start with Daryl Smith.

 

Juan Castillo would not be anywhere near my O-line teaching technique or his scheme.

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If we lose the next 2 games, I'd not be too disappointed if we just completely tanked the season, lose every game, and get some high picks to rebuild.

That clearly won't happen though (tank on purpose I mean)

So...

Other than that, get rid of the ZBS/fire Castillo, as others have said.

Or...

Since I really don't see us making the playoffs this year, so I'd love to give Williams, Simon, Juice, Jackson, Thompson, Tyson and Jensen a chance to impress and gain experience by being given more playing time.
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That does not really jive with the team cohesion mantra that almost all successful franchises have though. 

We are talking about coaches not players.  You can still be a team with an enemy in your midst.  As long as it doesnt affect your working relationship. 

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So essentially you're saying you'd trade our entire FO for Belichick.  As he has final say over any player brought into the organization and does his own scouting on players identified by his scouting staff for him.  You'd also need to find a way to get arguably a top 3 QB of all time.

 

Good luck.

 

No I wasn't referring to Belichick. Brady was having a very mediocre year until they smoked the Steelers. Brady won't cure what ails the Ravens.

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No I wasn't referring to Belichick. Brady was having a very mediocre year until they smoked the Steelers. Brady won't cure what ails the Ravens.

You really think that team wasn't going to turn it around though?  Until Belichick is dead and Brady is retired that team is going to win double digit games every single year.  Belichick is a dirtbag but the guy is literally two steps ahead of the curve in every aspect of the game.  

Outside of drafting DBs for some reason.

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No I wasn't referring to Belichick. Brady was having a very mediocre year until they smoked the Steelers. Brady won't cure what ails the Ravens.


Brady won't, but if BB was here, he would certainly know exactly how to use the pieces we have correctly.We wouldn't be 3-5 I will say that.
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Okay,  those of you saying "Fire so and so" 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, give us a replace them with...... who?

Some of you are doing just that.  Thanks.

But to say " We need a new OC "

Well they dont exactly have an end cap full of them at the Wal-Mart.....

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Scheme. Both our offensive and defensive schemes are completely broken. We are getting out coached every week and teams superior schemes are a big part of it. The scheme issues are a big reason we can't run the ball and why we can't generate turnovers on defense. We have a blocking scheme that doesn't generate running lanes and a coverage scheme that allows QB's to pick our secondary apart because there is no pass rush due to us playing super soft coverage all the time. The few times we dialed up the blitz we had success getting to Campbell and at least forced him to make a quick throw (which is how you generate int's). When the QB has all day to scan for open wr's the chances he's going to throw into traffic are extremely low and even if you make a coverage stop you still aren't going to force any turnovers.

 

Pees is a push over and the fact that we didn't completely scrap Cam Cameron's playbook in the offseason has come back to bite us more times then I can count this season. The problems have to do with coaching/scheme almost more so then then players not executing, I think a lot of players are doing their best to execute, the scheme they are executing just sucks.

Bingo!

Only two post in to this thread and someone points out the underlining problem with this team. Hell of a post sflegend89. This is the main problem with this team.

Our schemes are so basic on both sides of the ball. You rarely see us send guys in motion or shift the formation offensively. And as for the D... Well everyone knows how I feel about that side of the ball.

But staying with Cam's playbook was the worse thing the ravens could do. And speaking of Cam's playbook, what happened to the quick outs we use to run with so much success? That use to be our money play sort to speak, but now we run it every so often.
 

 

I think scheme is a major issue.  On a direct comparison, I don't think the Jets defense has more talent than we do, but Rex is such a good coach schematically that he makes his players better than they are.  They are just as weak at safety and in the secondary as we are, but they know how to scheme around that.  This is an area that Harbaugh is weak in, and we've seen his loyalty be a hindrance to getting the right people in place before.  I still think it was Bisciotti's call to fire Cam last season, not Harbs.  Regardless, you brought up a good point.

 

But it's not the only issue.  We lack talent in the secondary, specifically we don't have a true FS, and I don't like our corners much with Webb playing like crap.  We drafted Jimmy Smith to be a press man corner, but it seems we never allow him to do that.  Graham is always a step late.  And that's ignoring the dearth of talent along the OL.  Oher is the same sieve he's always been, getting beat by speed guys around the outside.  There is so much film of the exact same thing that I saw happen today of him just failing over and over again.  That's ignoring Gino's ineptitude, Shipley's suckage, and Yanda's injury.  Not looking forward to their grades tomorrow.

 

This team is a failure from top to bottom.  When you suck this bad it's not just one area that's wrong.  I've tried to remain calm coming off a Super Bowl season, but when you have to watch that every week, and really it's been just as bad every week this season, it's just rough.

Even though I think the D is playing decent so far (outside the Denver game and the 4th qtr struggles) I think it's funny how all our former D coordinators can do with less, but Peas can't even get the stack D to play up to their potential.

If Rex had our players on D, the Jets would be the number one rank D in the league. Talent wise, the Jets D can't come close to the players we have.

And yes, we all know Bisciotti is the one who forced John to get rid of Cam.  
 

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Fire Ozzie Newsome and DeCosta immediately and have the new G.M. select an interim head coach from within the organization, with full authority to hire his own new head coach during the off season.

 

Desperate times.

 

I've found that I am not enjoying NFL football as much this year. The Raven's mismanagement has something to do with that, but there is far more.  I'm losing interest and I think its because of the so called "player safety" policies that are really nothing more than "lawsuit insulation" policies.

 

The Patriots never miss a beat do they? They've got to have some young minds in that organization we can harvest.

 

Funny stuff right there. :lol3:

But seriously, our coaching staff need to be gutted after the season. We need to bring in guys who's number one, aren't friends with Harbaugh. And number two, they have to be creative coaches.

Peas needs to be fired after the season. And if Caldwell doesn't bring in his own playbook in the off season, he should be gone too.

Right now, the only move we can make is getting rid of Juan. It's to many chiefs and not enough Indians. I don't think Harbaughs should be fired though. He's a great coach as far as intangibles goes. He's a good motivator and he's seems to always have the team in football shape due to his intense training camps. He's also good at keeping distractions away from the team as well.

He's just not a good in game coach. That doesn't make him a bad coach, it just means he's more of a team manager or a team supervisor type coach and not necessarily an X's and O's guy.  

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I would do the same thing Donald Trump would do if he was the Ravens' owner.  I'd fire the HC & the GM. Letting Boldin go was a bonehead move, period.  Also, we knew the day was coming when some of our key players would retire.  Unlike some of the other better franchises in the league, it does not appear we had anyone "waiting in the wings" to take over when the key players finally retired. We should have been grooming their replacements long before now. Its easy to say that the Doss/Thompson combination has more than compensated for the loss of Boldin but they have not been the consistent "Go To" receivers like Q was. Our newly revamped defense isn't working too well either. 

 

Pitta was suppose to be the go to guy but we all know how that happen(no way ozzie or john could have predicted that).  The ravens may not have had anyone waiting in the wings to take over when key players like Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Matt Brik retired but you can't say they didn't try.

 

 The guys the ravens did have  that were actually mentor by Ray Lewis and Ed Reed either didn't work out for the ravens or they became to costly for the ravens to re-sign. Its ashame   Arthur Brown and Matt Elam wont be able to receive the teaching from Ray Lewis and Ed Reed but I have a feeling they will be great as times goes by( im sure they can always watch tape of ray and ed if they want)

 

I think  when it comes to young guys like Doss, Thompson, and  Brown  there has be a realization that they are going through a growing phase  . I think they are getting better as time goes forward

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get a new offensive line coach, we need a new juan bad!!!

 

Lol! I like what you did there.

 

And really, I want to see both Moeller and Castillo let go. The line has struggled for a few years, yes even last year. We just had more splash plays that boosted the averages last season. I want to start over with a new line coach and let him work with our guys. I know the talent is there; a new coach might bring that out more. 

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Lol! I like what you did there.

And really, I want to see both Moeller and Castillo let go. The line has struggled for a few years, yes even last year. We just had more splash plays that boosted the averages last season. I want to start over with a new line coach and let him work with our guys. I know the talent is there; a new coach might bring that out more.

Agreed. I think the Ravens recognized this but wanted to try to see how Castillo could do running the OL. If he wasn't so strict with his schemes then I wouldn't have a problem.
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Agreed. I think the Ravens recognized this but wanted to try to see how Castillo could do running the OL. If he wasn't so strict with his schemes then I wouldn't have a problem.

 

Neither would I. He obviously has his credentials, just too stubborn. 

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Lol! I like what you did there.

 

And really, I want to see both Moeller and Castillo let go. The line has struggled for a few years, yes even last year. We just had more splash plays that boosted the averages last season. I want to start over with a new line coach and let him work with our guys. I know the talent is there; a new coach might bring that out more. 

 

We have a drunk and a wannabe D coordinator coaching the line and we wonder why things are looking bad on offense...

But for the record, I'll take Moller over Juan any day. I can't remember our line ever coming close to being this bad under Moller. Outside of the 2009 and 2010 season, I think our o-line has always played somewhat good. But I agree, Moller need to go after the season.

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We have a drunk and a wannabe D coordinator coaching the line and we wonder why things are looking bad on offense...

But for the record, I'll take Moller over Juan any day. I can't remember our line ever coming close to being this bad under Moller. Outside of the 2009 and 2010 season, I think our o-line has always played somewhat good. But I agree, Moller need to go after the season.

 

Uh... The line was actually really good in 2009... You think our o-line has always been somewhat good? That's definitely up for debate. Few here would agree with that.

 

Don't know if I'd call Juan a wannabe DC either. He's spent the majority of his successful career as an OL coach.

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Uh... The line was actually really good in 2009... You think our o-line has always been somewhat good? That's definitely up for debate. Few here would agree with that.

 

Don't know if I'd call Juan a wannabe DC either. He's spent the majority of his successful career as an OL coach.

 

Well in 2008, I thought our line was decent. In 2009, your right our line was decent that year as well (I thought that was Oher first year at LT, but he played RT that year). 2010 our line was average.

In 2011, the year McKinne came, our line was good. Our line was average last year during the regular season, but we probably had the best in the league last year during the playoffs.

So I would say we have had a pretty good o-line under Harbaugh so far. Now the o-line the Steelers had the last 5 years is what I would call bad o-lines. Our line has been great compared to some of these other teams over the last few years.

I guess it comes down to what each person considers "bad", and to me the Ravens o-line has always played decent under Harbaugh.

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What I'd like to see immediately is the reintroduction of the 'Suggs' package. The formations we used to use when Troy Smith was here.To jump start a stagnant running game, For at least 3 or 4 plays a game they should bring in Taylor and let him run the pistol, wishbone offense with Joe still on the field. Maybe the threat of Taylor keeping the ball could jumpstart Ray or Pierce.
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Okay,  those of you saying "Fire so and so" 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, give us a replace them with...... who?

Some of you are doing just that.  Thanks.

But to say " We need a new OC "

Well they dont exactly have an end cap full of them at the Wal-Mart.....

 

Juan doesn't exactly need a replacement.. we can move on without him to be honest.

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I would start be telling Jaun no more special schemes and go with what works for the talent we have. then i would put Rice,Webb, Dickson, Oher, Yanda and Nagta on notice, get it together and play like a Raven or else. I would find a center off of someone's practice squad or off the street and sit Gino. I would tell Harbaugh no more mistakes and tell the OC and DC to get aggressive or next year you'll be gone. And finally tell Dennis Ptta to please hurry back.

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Lol! I like what you did there.

 

And really, I want to see both Moeller and Castillo let go. The line has struggled for a few years, yes even last year. We just had more splash plays that boosted the averages last season. I want to start over with a new line coach and let him work with our guys. I know the talent is there; a new coach might bring that out more. 

it would be great if we could land a line coach from Wisconsin... they breed animals

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