Chances we still make the playoffs

[Bltravens]

Only person we have to worry about w/ that is Arnie.

Et, moi.  Je suis Canadien.  Mili's example is pertinent to Canada as well.  Butt is definitely slang for a dart here.

[Poes Crows]

How are we rebuilding?! What did we lose? There is one guy I want on our team from last year and his name is Matt Birk.

 

Ray Lewis 2012 < Daryl Smith 2013

Ed Reed is riding pine in Houston....He couldn't tackle here last year and he was bad in coverage as well.

Pollard was terrible in coverage.

Boldin and Doss have identical numbers over past 5 or 6 games.

We have a better LT in Monroe than in McKinnie.

Ellerbe is doing good, but he isn't much better than Bynes, Art Brown or McClain.

 

2 of our top 3 Wideouts are still here from last year. Pitta is on his way back. We need to go back to our power run scheme.

 

I just don't see how when you lose 4 games by 7 or less, we are now rebuilding?...that's crap logic.

 

It must be nice to be such an optimist, but when does one temper optimism with reality?  What kind of event is necessary to alter or correct perspective?

 

This run game is not well. Its worse than last year.

 

Flacco is playing worse than last year. He may have more yards to this point, but check out his TD to INT ratio.  He can't sustain drives. He can't find that go to receiver or convert 3rd downs.

 

The Pass Defense is worse than last year. It can't make a big play or get a stop when it must.

 

The Run Defense is pretty funny. It wasn't strained much vs Cleveland, but it might be interesting to watch vs Cincinnati.

 

We were 6-2 at this point last year.

 

Have to hope we beat Cincinnati. I mean we have to. This is our Last Stand or Maybe our Second to Last Stand. The second Pittsburgh game is the Last Stand....Ozzie's Last Stand....Last time he purged our Quarterback and it took a decade to find another. This time he got our secondary and possession receiver.  He's gonna need these wins to prove he didn't make another monumental mistake.

[flynismo]

fact is..Ozzie has been very overrated post 2008 when it comes to drafting

Let's see...
Since 2008, he drafted Webb, Kruger, Torrey, Upshaw, Art Jones, McPhee, Jimmy Smith, Pitta, Pierce...not even including this past draft, which on paper looks awesome. Your post makes perfect sense, as always...

[The Mom Gene]

Both schedules look tough... That last game could be he tie breaker. Easily!

[The Mom Gene]

Hate to tell you Poes... Flacco isn't playing worst. Its the people around him. Look at stats.

[SecretAgentMan]

It must be nice to be such an optimist, but when does one temper optimism with reality?  What kind of event is necessary to alter or correct perspective?

 

This run game is not well. Its worse than last year.

 

Flacco is playing worse than last year. He may have more yards to this point, but check out his TD to INT ratio.  He can't sustain drives. He can't find that go to receiver or convert 3rd downs.

 

The Pass Defense is worse than last year. It can't make a big play or get a stop when it must.

 

The Run Defense is pretty funny. It wasn't strained much vs Cleveland, but it might be interesting to watch vs Cincinnati.

 

We were 6-2 at this point last year.

 

Have to hope we beat Cincinnati. I mean we have to. This is our Last Stand or Maybe our Second to Last Stand. The second Pittsburgh game is the Last Stand....Ozzie's Last Stand....Last time he purged our Quarterback and it took a decade to find another. This time he got our secondary and possession receiver.  He's gonna need these wins to prove he didn't make another monumental mistake.

 

 

 

Guess what, our secondary wasn't purged! Elam and Digs are FINE. We may need a more natural FS, but the real  problem is that Graham is a liability, and Webb is coming off of a bad injury.  It's simple. Let Webb get healthier, and find another slot CB and the secondary problems suddenly start to go away. This is fixable with people already on the roster.

 

 

And you are STILL complaining about Boldin? When Doss' stats are near identical over the last few games? We lost a play maker, but it's not like the Lions losing Megatron. Boldin is getting older, and was NOT worth $6 million a year at this point in his career.

 

In all honesty Pitta was the bigger loss. He was the guy set to replace Boldin's production, but that is NO ONEs fault. It was an accident. That's where the season went downhill.

 

 

And stop acting like losing Q was the apocalypse. This up and coming draft is FILLED with WR talent. And I honestly have no problem whatsoever if we pick in the top 15 and get a Lee, Evans, or Watkins. All three have a very high ceiling.

 

 

And news flash. Unlike you, Ozzie has a very good track record and NFL experience as a GM.

 

If we were stupid enough to follow your plan, another franchise(like the jags) would immediately scoop Ozzie up, and Ozzie would build up the jags into a good team in the next three or four years.

 

 

He's not getting away, and we'd be stupid to fire him. Everyone makes mistakes, he might've made a few this offseason in the eyes of some people, but he's been consistently good the past 16 years.

 

We have a chance to rebound next year. Get over losing Q. He's gone. I'm over it, and losing him isn't the biggest wound, it's losing Pitta

[Poes Crows]

 

We have a chance to rebound next year. Get over losing Q. He's gone. I'm over it, and losing him isn't the biggest wound, it's losing Pitta

 

If you're right about Pitta, when he gets back we should begin winning again correct?  We should win say 66% of the games once he returns.  If it's Pitta we are missing, we should win 2 out of 3 when he returns correct? Or will he be playing less than 100% and ineffective?

 

The view here has not varied. Pitta's loss was pouring salt into the wound, but the wound was already opened by Ozzie Newsome.

 

It's much bigger than Boldin, Reed and Pollard now though. The litany of missteps has developed into a comedy.

[Bltravens]

If you're right about Pitta, when he gets back we should begin winning again correct?  We should win say 66% of the games once he returns.  If it's Pitta we are missing, we should win 2 out of 3 when he returns correct? Or will he be playing less than 100% and ineffective?

 

The view here has not varied. Pitta's loss was pouring salt into the wound, but the wound was already opened by Ozzie Newsome.

 

It's much bigger than Boldin, Reed and Pollard now though. The litany of missteps has developed into a comedy.

Reed literally just was benched/ forced to split time with Shiloh Keo.  It's also silly to think when Pitta is able to return he's going to be the same Pitta from the last 2 years.  It's going to take him a lot of game snaps to get his timing and legs back.

[SecretAgentMan]

Reed literally just was benched/ forced to split time with Shiloh Keo.  It's also silly to think when Pitta is able to return he's going to be the same Pitta from the last 2 years.  It's going to take him a lot of game snaps to get his timing and legs back.

That's true. But Ozzie isn't the problem. The problem is that we got younger and as a result we have inexperienced players now, and injuries have taken their toll.

 

Another good draft and we should be  back 2 good

[Bltravens]

That's true. But Ozzie isn't the problem. The problem is that we got younger and as a result we have inexperienced players now, and injuries have taken their toll.

 

Another good draft and we should be  back 2 good

Not even that, the Oline just needs to get healthy.  People forget Yanda had rotator surgery and rotator surgery is NO joke. It completely compromises your ability to use that shoulder until it is 100% strengthened and unfortunately sometimes it never returns.  I've seen many of pitching arms rendered non existent because the shoulder doesn't respond well to the surgery.  Add in that apparently Osemele had back issues since week 1.  This season would be faaaaar different if we could run the ball with any type of effectiveness.  We can't even use damn PA because of how crap our rush O is.

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Actually, we have quite a few non-Americans here. Check out the Where Are You From thread.

 

Et, moi.  Je suis Canadien.  Mili's example is pertinent to Canada as well.  Butt is definitely slang for a dart here.

 

I'm actually from England originally, so I'd have to add myself to that list as well :)  Was just being facetious.

[darklight1216]

Given the way that they have played this year (in every single game except maybe Denver) I can't say that they're chances look great, but maybe they still have something up their sleeves.

Et, moi.  Je suis Canadien.  Mili's example is pertinent to Canada as well.  Butt is definitely slang for a dart here.

Je savais d'ou vous venez, mais ça m'etonne que vous parlez Français.

[Poes Crows]

Reed literally just was benched/ forced to split time with Shiloh Keo.  It's also silly to think when Pitta is able to return he's going to be the same Pitta from the last 2 years.  It's going to take him a lot of game snaps to get his timing and legs back.

 

Doesn't "Benched" mean you don't get to play?  Reed played 32 snaps.  Is he hurt? Is he ineffective? 

 

What Houston does is not going to be of any concern. They are clearly a team in Crisis too and are searching for what is wrong.  But in the end all that is relevant is how valuable a player is to Your team.  That's all. That's all there is to it. 

 

After our previous Championship we went 10-6 and made the playoffs.  This season could rival for the greatest post Championship Flop in NFL History.

 

Why is that?

[Predator]

Yeah, I reckon the Browns' bubble will burst pretty soon.  CIN and PIT have a lot of question marks.

Question marks like what happened in that 49-9 Jets blowout on 10/27? The only question about Cincy is how dangerous are they going to be on any given day, injuries be damned.

[Militant X 1]

Et, moi.  Je suis Canadien.  Mili's example is pertinent to Canada as well.  Butt is definitely slang for a dart here.

 

Oh yeah?  that is interesting!  lol!

I'm actually from England originally, so I'd have to add myself to that list as well :)  Was just being facetious.

what part of England?  I went there quite a bit when I was stationed in Germany with the Army.

 

#Mili

[Bltravens]

Doesn't "Benched" mean you don't get to play?  Reed played 32 snaps.  Is he hurt? Is he ineffective? 

 

What Houston does is not going to be of any concern. They are clearly a team in Crisis too and are searching for what is wrong.  But in the end all that is relevant is how valuable a player is to Your team.  That's all. That's all there is to it. 

 

After our previous Championship we went 10-6 and made the playoffs.  This season could rival for the greatest post Championship Flop in NFL History.

 

Why is that?

I'll make it simple.  If Reed was 1/4 of the player he used to be, Shia Lebeuf/ Shiloh Keo would not take snaps away from him.  And please don't cite that ridiculous Wade Phillips quote on defensive packages.  Reed plays in any package known to man if he can remotely play at the level he used to.  

[Bltravens]

Given the way that they have played this year (in every single game except maybe Denver) I can't say that they're chances look great, but maybe they still have something up their sleeves.

Je savais d'ou vous venez, mais ça m'etonne que vous parlez Français.

They teach us French starting in grade 1 through to grade 8 in Canada.  Federal law, even if you're in the dirtiest English speaking part of the country in my case lol.  But clearly in my case I understand more than I speak lol.  I'm not talented enough linguistically but do you France French or Quebecois?

 

I'd love an epic run, even just a first round playoff exit.  Playoff football is so blah without having your team in it.

[Bltravens]

Oh yeah?  that is interesting!  lol!

what part of England?  I went there quite a bit when I was stationed in Germany with the Army.

 

#Mili

Ya we have a lot of British slang still in Canada.  Alot of people's grandparents in their 90s or 80s will still talk like colonial British types.  Use "bloody" as an actual cuss word for example.  My grandpa has all sorts of awesome words that I've never even thought of using.  People born in the 80s in Canada now have more of the same slang as Americans.

 Jealous.  I spent a month in Germany this summer.  Easily my favourite country in all of western Europe.

 

Given the way that they have played this year (in every single game except maybe Denver) I can't say that they're chances look great, but maybe they still have something up their sleeves.

Je savais d'ou vous venez, mais ça m'etonne que vous parlez Français.

 

They teach us French starting in grade 1 through to grade 8 in Canada.  Federal law, even if you're in the dirtiest English speaking part of the country in my case lol.  But clearly in my case I understand more than I speak lol.  I'm not talented enough linguistically but do you know France French or Quebecois?

 

I'd love an epic run, even just a first round playoff exit.  Playoff football is so blah without having your team in it.

[darklight1216]

They teach us French starting in grade 1 through to grade 8 in Canada. Federal law, even if you're in the dirtiest English speaking part of the country in my case lol. But clearly in my case I understand more than I speak lol. I'm not talented enough linguistically but do you know France French or Quebecois?

I'd love an epic run, even just a first round playoff exit. Playoff football is so blah without having your team in it.

Yes, you are.

I aim for Parisian French.

Playoffs would be great even, as you said a one and done playoff run, but we are truly in ''I hope we can win a game'' territory.

[Poes Crows]

I'll make it simple.  If Reed was 1/4 of the player he used to be, Shia Lebeuf/ Shiloh Keo would not take snaps away from him.  And please don't cite that ridiculous Wade Phillips quote on defensive packages.  Reed plays in any package known to man if he can remotely play at the level he used to.  

 

Remember the position you took here after the Bengals game and then ask yourself, would Reed have helped.

[rmw10]

Remember the position you took here after the Bengals game and then ask yourself, would Reed have helped.

If it's the Reed that has been seen this year, absolutely not. He's been brutal. His current level of play would not help this team.

[Bltravens]

Remember the position you took here after the Bengals game and then ask yourself, would Reed have helped.

I'm assuming you mean Brown's game because we haven't played the Bengals yet but I think Reed is better than Ihedigbo as a player even if its just from a cerebral standpoint, even if that's all Reed is right now as well.  It would also allow us to put Elam at his natural downhill playing SS role.  But absolutely not would I be prepared to shell out over 5 mil a year for his services like the Texans did.

Baltimore moving on from him, like so many things in football, was not (entirely) football related.  Reed is no longer worth a 5 or 6 mil cap hit for what he does.  

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Oh yeah?  that is interesting!  lol!

what part of England?  I went there quite a bit when I was stationed in Germany with the Army.

 

#Mili

 

Born outside of Northampton, moved to London when I was 6.  Grandparents lived up near RAF Lakenheath if you ever went up to hang out w/ your USAF counterparts.

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Question marks like what happened in that 49-9 Jets blowout on 10/27? The only question about Cincy is how dangerous are they going to be on any given day, injuries be damned.

 

Question marks as in "how many interceptions will Dalton throw on any given day."

 

:D

[ellicottraven]

32.79% of the voters are absolutely right. The minute we lost in Cleveland, we lost all chances at the playoffs. We are going to have to be 5 and 3 over the next 8 just to not have a losing season! And the guys who think we are going to make the playoffs really believe that we win the next 7 or 8 of 8?

I say we salvage a good result if we go 5-3 over the rest of the season so we end up a respectable 8-8 and at least not have the ignominy of a losing season. At this point that is all I can hope for in the best case scenario. In the worst case we win 2 or maybe 3 of the next 8 to end up either 6-10 or even 5-11. I hate myself for saying this, but in my heart and objectively that is all I can hope for out of this terribly coached team.

[Sami84]

Let's see...
Since 2008, he drafted Webb, Kruger, Torrey, Upshaw, Art Jones, McPhee, Jimmy Smith, Pitta, Pierce...not even including this past draft, which on paper looks awesome. Your post makes perfect sense, as always...

Webb might have been a flash in the pan. Remember he was only very goodin 1 year. Upshaw is a poor mans jj. Mcphee is average, get over him. Jimmy smith is ok. Nothing more. Art jones is good. Nothing more. Pitta is a very good tight end. Not gronk though is he? We could have hadhim. Torrey is. Te only one of the above mentioned that gave us value for his pick. Most teams have drafted better then that.

[Poes Crows]

If it's the Reed that has been seen this year, absolutely not. He's been brutal. His current level of play would not help this team.

 

At Home...M&T Bank...Home of the World Champions...Ed and Ray's House...The Turf Dance.

 

A must win with the vocal faithful in full regalia. A rockin packed purple house.

 

We lose this game and someones got some splainin to do

 

We lose this game and Someone is going to have to do some serious reconciliation.

 

We win and we have a chance.

 

We lose and someone must pay. Someone must be held accountable for the collapse. Someone is responsible and that someone must man up, take responsibility, admit the errors and do the right thing.

[Hardbaugh]

Webb might have been a flash in the pan. Remember he was only very goodin 1 year. Upshaw is a poor mans jj. Mcphee is average, get over him. Jimmy smith is ok. Nothing more. Art jones is good. Nothing more. Pitta is a very good tight end. Not gronk though is he? We could have hadhim. Torrey is. Te only one of the above mentioned that gave us value for his pick. Most teams have drafted better then that.

While I agree with most of what you say here , two knee injuries may have sapped Webb from being an elite corner to average. I guess we'll know more next season if he doesn't get injured again.

 

This front office gets better press than it deserves for it's drafting. I'm not sold at all on the past draft class.

[Sami84]

ozzie has had abominations such as the 2004 draft which could go down as one of the worst of all time by any team

[The Mom Gene]

We have gone from blaming Juan Castillo, to blaming the defense, to blaming Rice, to blaming the O-line, to blaming Harbaugh, to blaming Flacco, and now we are going after Ozzie. We need to stop grabbing at whatever...
We just need to win!