Should we get rid of Ray Rice?

[Guest RBates]

First let's get rid of Ron Rivera and his zone blocking, let's put a man on man. Every analyst in every media can see it is not working.

Who?

[blazing32]

Sadly, Ray Rice has gone the way of Ngata. He got paid and now doesn't put forth the effort. Flacco seems to be another one to join that list, but at least he tries, unlike Rice who goes down with the first touch. Ray Rice was never and elite back. Other than Jonathan Ogden,Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and maybe Terrell Suggs, though I'm still not sure about him, Ozzie has failed to find any sure time hall of famers since forever. None of his new picks have panned out to be elite players. Flacco is serviceable as is Ray Rice. Neither in my opinion is elite. Torrey SMith is still not and elite receiver, and would be a second on a better offense, but maybe he will be. I can hold out hopes anyway. Ladarius Webb, after getting a new contract like Ngata and Rice, was injured the first year of contract and hasn't done much this year. He looked pretty bad today. Yanda is looking horrible this year as is the entire O-line, which in my opinion was never great. Oher just plain sucks as does the center Gino Grancowski(Sp). In my opinion, they will lose to the Bengals next week and fail to win more than 5 games this year. What did they do on the bye week, get lazy and fat.

[Cappy]

You people are looking at Ray as being the main problem.  Don't, it is also the offensive line not being able to open up any lanes for the running backs to get through  Give them a break and shove some of the blame around to the coaches also.  They have problems to fix and are confused as how to fix them.  Maybe next year.

[easternshore97]

Your posts are average at best.
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[easternshore97]

I guess Bernard Pierce must be declining  as well because he's doesn't look any better than Rice

THIS

[wizard1]

It happens-I'm sorry but Ray Rice took his big money contract and sold us out. Hip flexor? Are you serious? He gets the ball and falls down-he fumbles and drops easy passes. You are right about one thing though-he has given us a few good years. Just like Shaun Alexander did. Ray Rices lack of football "eye of the tiger play"is showing and rubbing off on his teammates. He makes us look weak and believe me there are alot of people around the league that are laughing at us and I hate that. Get him outta here somebody PLEASE

[The Mom Gene]

First of all Ngata and Rice have both been hurt,but that said. Do you think sending Rice up the middle into a pile of guys is gonna work? My 4 year old grand daughter knows that's not gonna work. You gotta have the openings... Somebody has to create those creases... We all know the problem... Its the solution... And if we don't fix it now? We always wait too long to fix our problem... Now on to the defense... Hahaha

[RedFire]

The scheme is an issue. I'm not denying that.

Beyond the scheme, Rice isn't doing well. He's making poor decisions. He has no burst. He's not making guys miss. He's falling down on his own. That has nothing to do with scheme.

But his burst and speed was turned on once he got through a hole with leach leading the way. He ain't getting to the 2nd level....he's meeting defends at the line of scrimmage and he always got stoped in that scenario in years past.

Plus I ain't seen rice one on one in space this yr....so I don't know about his burst and top end speed.

We going to have to disagree until I see leach blocking/clearing the way for rice or I see rice one on one in space on a check down play.

[K-Dog]

I really really really really really DO NOT want to join this club.

 

But I will take an application to hold on to for future use.

 

 

Man I dont get it.

Ray Rice is one of the best in the league.  Now you touch his ankle and he is down.

The fact that pierce really is not much better is the only reason I dont put the blame fully on Rice.

[rmw10]

But his burst and speed was turned on once he got through a hole with leach leading the way. He ain't getting to the 2nd level....he's meeting defends at the line of scrimmage and he always got stoped in that scenario in years past.

Plus I ain't seen rice one on one in space this yr....so I don't know about his burst and top end speed.

We going to have to disagree until I see leach blocking/clearing the way for rice or I see rice one on one in space on a check down play.

 

Leach isn't doing too well himself this year.  That's a big reason why he's not being used as much.

[ccflraven]

The running game stinks would'nt matter if a.p. was running the ball this lines runblocking is beyond horrible.

[Raving_Heathen]

Flacco cant play without a running game and that is a fact.  So if you get rid of Rice, Flacco must follow. Its not that hard. If Flacco has to throw 40-50 times we lose the game.  He is not that type of quarterback. 

 

That's not fair. There are literally only 4-5 QBs in the league who can consistently win games without any semblance of a run game game and with a mediocre defense. Get rid of Flacco, and the Ravens will be playing QB carousel  for the next 10 years. Flacco is in the same 1B tier as Eli and Roethlisberger. That's to say, you don't need to surround any of them with all-world talent, but they do need SOME help. Right now Flacco is getting virtually none from the D in the 4th quarter and getting worse than that out of the run game.

[tolucaraven]

He is not done. Just has put on too much weight over last two years. He has gained 10-15lbs. He needs to cut weight and regain shiftiness. Most is fat. He was always walking à tight line with his weight, now he rolled the scales.

[flaccopoe]

Fun fact: both Rice and McGahee averaged a pitiful 1.5 ypc this game.  McGahee's just old, but Rice is being stymied so much by the incompetence of the O-line.  You know you're having serious problems with the ball when the pocket-passing QB is the leading rusher.

[BallHawker]

Why can't Ray break tackles?? First man to hit him, he's down. What gives?

[Chris K]

I'm gonna go ahead and say a few things attribute to the lack of production this year, and it started with the loss of Pitta and our passing game. Pitta, you say? That has nothing to do with Ray!.. Right? Wrong.

 

While Pitta being out isn't necessarily the number one reason, it is representative of the other reasons, which starts with how well the overall offense is producing, and initially, not now, but initially, our passing game was not up to par, for the simple reason that Joe needed to develop chemistry with his receivers. Now he has, and I think we are fine in the passing game, when Joe has time to throw of course. This is where the problem comes in. If Joe doesn't even have the time to drop back, (literally to run away from the defensive pressure to gain time) to throw, how the hell do we expect the offensive line to gain the push needed to create enough momentum forward to gash holes in the defense in order to run the football?

 

The offensive line has been playing extremely sub-par all season long, and it has shown. The passing game has only been decent because of Joe and his ability to make things happen. Can you imagine him with a competent offensive line? Wow. That applies to Rice as well, why do you think he is not producing? You might say that has nothing to do with his seemingly inability to make plays in space, but if he's running into a wall of defenders, say 10 times a game for little to no gain, how do you expect him to react when he FINALLY gets out into space? He is battered at that point, mentally and physically, he just doesn't want to drop the ball so he goes down, expecting the "normal" pile to ensue. 

 

I don't blame him at all. If the line play steps up and he still isn't producing, then you can tell me we should get rid of him.

[busterblue52]

I am a huge Ray Rice supporter BUT any running back in the entire league could do what he has done this year for us. He has given us nothing at all THIS year. I love Ray Rice but we overpaid him way to much and now we are paying for it. I hope he proves me wrong I really do.

[H8ME]

He is not done. Just has put on too much weight over last two years. He has gained 10-15lbs. He needs to cut weight and regain shiftiness. Most is fat. He was always walking à tight line with his weight, now he rolled the scales.

 

How do you know that?  Maybe he bulked up too much w/muscle.

[jimjim5]

....But he's a power runner

No, he isn't.

[tolucaraven]

How do you know that? Maybe he bulked up too much w/muscle.

He gets his suits custom made by a great Baltimore Taylor that i went to TSU with, he has had to get new suits and also get altérations done. He according to this Taylor has added 15 lbs or so over the past 2 years.....all fat. He has a jelly roll and fattened thighs, legs, hips and glutes. Thats alot of weight for his frame and height. He should be about 215 but now about 230.

[gabefergy]

I don't know what us wrong with Rice this season. The OL deserves a ton of blame, but Rice has completely lost his power and elusiveness. He doesn't break tackles. He doesn't make people miss. And he doesn't run with any authority. He used to hit holes and at least fall forward for a couple yards. It doesn't happen anymore, and I have no explanation for why that is.

[flaccopoe]

He gets his suits custom made by a great Baltimore Taylor that i went to TSU with, he has had to get new suits and also get altérations done. He according to this Taylor has added 15 lbs or so over the past 2 years.....all fat. He has a jelly roll and fattened thighs, legs, hips and glutes. Thats alot of weight for his frame and height. He should be about 215 but now about 230.

 

Taylor, smh?  Way to spread unsubstantiated gossip.

[bMore Heathen]

Here's a question...

Have we run a single screen all year? I can't think of one...

[arnie_uk]

Here's a question...
Have we run a single screen all year? I can't think of one...

because rice can't run

[Guest RBates]

ypu get me his wins and losses when he's forced to throw a lot, he's won a lot more than he's lost. He doesn't need a run game

Arnie look that up for both of us .  We  lose when he has to throw 40-50 times a game.  He Simply can't complete passes consistently. I dont wanna hear about the protection either.  He had time on a nice amount of those throws he just missed his target. 

[arnie_uk]

Arnie look that up for both of us .  We  lose when he has to throw 40-50 times a game.  He Simply can't complete passes consistently. I dont wanna hear about the protection either.  He had time on a nice amount of those throws he just missed his target.

u brought it up, so you need to back your statement up with the stats.

[Guest RBates]

u brought it up, so you need to back your statement up with the stats.

Okay this year alone.  In Denver he attempted 62 passes we lost.  

 

In Buffalo he attempted 50 passes we lost that game. 

 

In Cleveland today he attempted 41 passes we lost that game.  

 

Its not much of a sample size but he has lost every game that he has 40 or more completions attempted this year. 

 

 

IF you want me to look at years previous no problem. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1517496-joe-flacco-is-not-an-elite-nfl-quarterback-and-never-will-be

Just one of the links i like to read in my spare time.  It has nothing to do with the attempted completions.  It's just a breath of fresh air. 

[RedFire]

No, he isn't.

He's not a ZBS guy. He was never about possibly taking on a LB or linemen at the line if scrimmage.

He's a power runner aka follow the FB to the 2nd level then make one cut and off to the races and run over a DB. He runs well out of power formations.

[jimjim5]

He's not a ZBS guy. He was never about possibly taking on a LB or linemen at the line if scrimmage.

He's a power runner aka follow the FB to the 2nd level then make one cut and off to the races and run over a DB. He runs well out of power formations.

What are you talking??? Ray Rice WAS a perfect RB for ZBS.

[I AM LEGEND]

Man I dont get it.
Ray Rice is one of the best in the league. Now you touch his ankle and he is down.
The fact that pierce really is not much better is the only reason I dont put the blame fully on Rice.

Yep