Ravens trying to land a WR before trade deadline?

[Alexir]

I don't see it happening. I think we will stay as is.

[ravensfan160]

The only WR on the market that isn't a serious injury risk or has off the field problems is Larry Fitzgerald and his contract is waaaay too big.

[jdynamite]

How about james hanna(TE) from cowboys?

He was primed to take over wittens spot, until witten started producing this year. His julius orange 2.0

I think I'm misreading this " until witten started producing this year" makes it seem like witten struggled previously, witten had a great statistical year last year as well. 110 rec 1039 yds.

Btw I hate the cowboys lol

[Tyler]

I don't see it happening. I think we will stay as is.

Don't be surprised if it does. When do they ever say that the Ravens are "deep in the process" to sign or trade for someone? Usually when the word "deep" is used with the ravens, it ends up happening.

[jazz1988]

I doubt this is true and the only receiver I see the ravens trading for is Kenny Britt ( he's the only  receiver the ravens can get for less than a third round pick out of the other receivers on the trade block)

[Tyler]

I doubt this is true and the only receiver I see the ravens trading for is Kenny Britt ( he's the only receiver the ravens can get for less than a third round pick out of the other receivers on the trade block)

They are definitely trying. This isn't some bogus bleacher report rumor. It's on the home page. Whether they can land anyone or not is another question.

[rmw10]

They are definitely trying. This isn't some bogus bleacher report rumor. It's on the home page. Whether they can land anyone or not is another question.

 

And it's La Canfora.  He's usually pretty good with this type of stuff.  He has Baltimore connections.

 

We may not end up with anyone, but I don't doubt that we're actually trying.

[jazz1988]

They are definitely trying. This isn't some bogus bleacher report rumor. It's on the home page. Whether they can land anyone or not is another question.

 well maybe i should say I doubt it would happen but the only receiver I see the ravens getting is Kenny Britt

[Alexir]

Cecil Shorts or Blackmon would be cool... Know the Jags are shopping guys and we've already fleeced them once

[rmw10]

I keep seeing on Twitter that we seem to be very interested in Kenny Britt, Hakeem Nicks, and Josh Gordon.

 

Britt is probably the most realistic.  He's killed pretty much all of his value, but still has some talent.  The Titans originally wanted a 3rd round pick, but it's rumored that they're willing to take a 6th now that he's done absolutely nothing.

 

Nicks is also talented, but just doesn't seem to be playing that well this year.  He's got more value than Britt, and may take a 3rd to pry him away.  The issue is that he's a free agent after the year, so is it worth the 8 game rental for a 3rd round pick?

 

Gordon is the most talented, but is one screw up away from a year suspension.  He'd likely cost a 2nd, but he's under team control for a couple more years.  There's also the intra-division aspect that likely throws this one out.

[T3hRaven]

Receiver trades mid season rarely if ever work, and I don't believe the team needs one right now. And then only if they're going to a very similar system. A trade for any receiver at this point would be a waste of a draft pick, assuming they're only on a one year deal.

[GrimCoconut]

I don't know because I'd love a trade to shake things up and allow us to run the best 4WR sets in the league, I'm really reluctant to do it because Torrey is going to be expensive. His agent is Drew Rosenhaus and Mike Wallace just got a big deal and there's no question that Smith is superior to Wallace in every way. I want to save money for Torrey.

If the trade is for a guy who we think will help us in the red zone and it won't cost us a lot then do it. Might not be a bad move. I wouldn't want to give up a high pick for Nicks or Britt or even Gordon because I like this class of WR. I'd rather use that pick on them

[redlobster]

I know their last names are the same but he's talking about Doug Baldwin from Seattle. Not Jon Baldwin from San Francisco.

Unfortunately the name they referenced was Baldwin from SF not Seattle though.

 

 

There is an abundance of receivers available as Tuesday's trade deadline approaches, and no shortage of interested teams, with clubs like the 49ers, Patriots, Lions, Ravens and Colts deep in the process of trying to land another pass catcher.

They are determining where there is the best value and what it would take to land players like Hakeem Nicks, Josh Gordon and Kenny Britt -- all recent high draft picks -- while less-established options like Jon Baldwin and Greg Little are also available, league sources said.

[GrimCoconut]

Unfortunately the name they referenced was Baldwin from SF not Seattle though.


There is an abundance of receivers available as Tuesday's trade deadline approaches, and no shortage of interested teams, with clubs like the 49ers, Patriots, Lions, Ravens and Colts deep in the process of trying to land another pass catcher.
They are determining where there is the best value and what it would take to land players like Hakeem Nicks, Josh Gordon and Kenny Britt -- all recent high draft picks -- while less-established options like Jon Baldwin and Greg Little are also available, league sources said.

Really? Eh. Yeah, in that case there's zero reason for us to trade for Baldwin. I'm not very interested in that move but it might not be terrible if it's player for player depending on who they want from us. I will say that I'm not against any trade at WR because we've struggled in the red zone. Perhaps this move, if made, is done to improve us in the red zone.

[bMore Heathen]

We have a lot of players were going to need to addressed at the end of this season...
Pitta
Dickson
Oher
Monroe
Art Jones
Daryl Smith
Tyrod
Ihedigbo
Jacoby

So obviously I don't think we should bring anyone in that's going to want big money if we hope to retain a lot of these players. Jacoby and Dickson probably won't be retained. Art Jones will probably get a better offer elsewhere. So that leaves both starting Ts, starting MLB (who might be our best defensive player right now IMO), starting SS (who's playing well), and our back up QB. And that leaves us a hole a TE and DT/DE.

I don't know what our cap looks like for next season, but I know Haloti and Suggs have HUGE contracts so we are going to have some tough decisions again this year offseason. I don't think it's a good idea to complicate that with another player looking for a pay day. And I absolutely hate the idea of a 1 year rental.

[GrimCoconut]

We have a lot of players were going to need to addressed at the end of this season...
Pitta
Dickson
Oher
Monroe
Art Jones
Daryl Smith
Tyrod
Ihedigbo
Jacoby

So obviously I don't think we should bring anyone in that's going to want big money if we hope to retain a lot of these players. Jacoby and Dickson probably won't be retained. Art Jones will probably get a better offer elsewhere. So that leaves both starting Ts, starting MLB (who might be our best defensive player right now IMO), starting SS (who's playing well), and our back up QB. And that leaves us a hole a TE and DT/DE.

I don't know what our cap looks like for next season, but I know Haloti and Suggs have HUGE contracts so we are going to have some tough decisions again this year offseason. I don't think it's a good idea to complicate that with another player looking for a pay day. And I absolutely hate the idea of a 1 year rental.

The 1 year rental isn't bad because if the player plays well they can get a good deal in free agency and give you a bigger return. For instance, let's assume it's Kenny Britt and we acquire him for a player or even a pick like our 6th rounder. If we send our 6th round pick for Britt, he plays well and gets some notoriety and keeps his nose clean then he could generate 2015 compensation for us. Granted, we won't have it next year but it's one way of generating more picks.

It also helps us compete. If we traded for Britt and didn't give up a lot, we could use him in the red zone to help us score. We all know about our struggles in the red zone converting into TD not FG. He could help. I'm not big into giving up a lot and I'm not big on giving up long term deals because I want Torrey to get his. But it wouldn't be a bad move

Tyrod isn't a free agent. I doubt Ihedigbo costs us any big money. Dickson, Oher, and Jacoby I believe are allowed to walk. That means Art Jones, Daryl Smith, Dennis Pitta and Eugene Monroe are our priorities. I expect Elam to move to SS next year.

As for the fate of Suggs and Ngata I'd expect the following to occur: we extend Suggs and structure his deal to be friendly next year and get bigger after so that we can cut Ngata in 2015 if he continues to struggle. It doesn't make a ton of sense to cut Ngata to save 1M though it's possible we could trade him I'd expect us to keep him around until his final year before making drastic moves like that. If we want to re-sign Arthur Jones we could under the assumption we'd cut Ngata in 2015. We'd just have to structure his deal to accommodate for it.

[bMore Heathen]

I know this is the wrong section for it, but I have really been following Mike Campanaro from Wake Forrest. He actually played at my old HS and I remember him from River Hill. But the kid is a Wes Welker clone, ideal slot receiver. He's played there all 4 years at Wake and has over 200 rec out of the slot. 4.4 speed, 5'10 190. And the kid is tough. I don't know where he's projected, but I'm sure he will kill it at the combine.
I think that's really our weakness right now is the slot. We have plenty of guys that can win outside, but really nobody that can work the slot.
Just some food for thought.

[ravensfan160]

The 1 year rental isn't bad because if the player plays well they can get a good deal in free agency and give you a bigger return. For instance, let's assume it's Kenny Britt and we acquire him for a player or even a pick like our 6th rounder. If we send our 6th round pick for Britt, he plays well and gets some notoriety and keeps his nose clean then he could generate 2015 compensation for us. Granted, we won't have it next year but it's one way of generating more picks.

It also helps us compete. If we traded for Britt and didn't give up a lot, we could use him in the red zone to help us score. We all know about our struggles in the red zone converting into TD not FG. He could help. I'm not big into giving up a lot and I'm not big on giving up long term deals because I want Torrey to get his. But it wouldn't be a bad move

Tyrod isn't a free agent. I doubt Ihedigbo costs us any big money. Dickson, Oher, and Jacoby I believe are allowed to walk. That means Art Jones, Daryl Smith, Dennis Pitta and Eugene Monroe are our priorities. I expect Elam to move to SS next year.

As for the fate of Suggs and Ngata I'd expect the following to occur: we extend Suggs and structure his deal to be friendly next year and get bigger after so that we can cut Ngata in 2015 if he continues to struggle. It doesn't make a ton of sense to cut Ngata to save 1M though it's possible we could trade him I'd expect us to keep him around until his final year before making drastic moves like that. If we want to re-sign Arthur Jones we could under the assumption we'd cut Ngata in 2015. We'd just have to structure his deal to accommodate for it.

 

I get what you're saying. I would agree if we were getting the "before knee injury" Kenny Britt. He seemed to be developing into a really good WR. But he hasn't been the same since he tore up his knee. I've read multiple different places that he is one of the worst graded WRs in the entire NFL this year.

 

So Britt would be a half season rental and not noticeably better than the guys we have not to mention the off field issues. Plus, how long would it take for him to learn the offense and develop a rhythm with Flacco?

[redrum52]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24147591/nfl-trade-deadline-notes-49ers-patriots-lions-ravens-colts-eyeing-wrs

 

The article from La Canfora says we're deep in talks about landing a WR.  Interesting to me.  I don't think WR is an issue at all.  Brown and Doss are stepping up next to Torrey.  Jacoby is working his way back into the rotation.  Deonte is good depth.  I can't picture this happening.

Jacoby is probably gone next year.  It's a possibility.  With him gone, it's Torrey, Doss, Brown, Deonte and... what the hell is his name on the practice squad.  It wouldn't hurt to pick up a proven guy.  I honestly like who we have and would like to see them succeed, but nothing is guaranteed.

[Purple Punishment]

Meh......should have picked up an earlier round WR in the off season.

[radicals]

Maybe we'll go for Josh Gordon before the Browns game? Just kidding, that trade has bad idea written all over it. 

 

On a serious note, I don't think we need another wide receiver. I am very confident in our guys. They are not the problem on our team. Yes, we could improve, but we have a solid core of receivers. I would rather see us trade for a offensive lineman, if we were to make any trade whatsoever.

The only WR I would like to trade for would be Hakeem Nicks, but I believe his contract is up at this end of the year.  But what would we trade away? A high round pick perhaps? I would rather save the pick for a TE or WR. What if we traded a RB? I would not like to lose BP, he's one of my favorite Ravens and a very talented RB that I believe we need. Who knows, maybe we'll trade for Larry Fitzgerald. Of course, this is all just speculation.

[UMDan]

We'll have Pitta back in a few weeks hopefully, which should make things a little smoother on offense.

[GrimCoconut]

I get what you're saying. I would agree if we were getting the "before knee injury" Kenny Britt. He seemed to be developing into a really good WR. But he hasn't been the same since he tore up his knee. I've read multiple different places that he is one of the worst graded WRs in the entire NFL this year.

So Britt would be a half season rental and not noticeably better than the guys we have not to mention the off field issues. Plus, how long would it take for him to learn the offense and develop a rhythm with Flacco?

Yeah, I understand what you're saying but it depends on what the compensation is. Hell, Britt could tear it up with Joe. We don't know. If the compensation is low I have no problem with it.

Britt hasn't had the best QB throwing to him either. That's not exactly an excuse but it's a reality that needs to be considered. The problem is the Titans don't need any OL from what I can see. They need a QB. Unless we traded them Tyrod then I can't imagine anyone we could afford to send them.

[MrPlankton]

Would signing a WR or TE basically just be the FO's way of saying "Screw the run game, we'll run it through Joe's arm instead."?

[GrimCoconut]

Would signing a WR or TE basically just be the FO's way of saying "Screw the run game, we'll run it through Joe's arm instead."?

I don't believe it's correlated. If we do trade for a WR it's because we're struggling in the red zone. At least in my opinion that's why.

[jazz1988]

I don't believe it's correlated. If we do trade for a WR it's because we're struggling in the red zone. At least in my opinion that's why.

 

 I'm surprised we are struggling  in the red zone especially when there's a  6'5" wideout named Marlon Brown on the team .

[PurpleCityLights]

If we cant fixs our O-line problem it doesnt matter if we had AP & Calvin Johnson, The run game doesn't work and the pass blocking is not holding up. So until then we're screwed......


But who we really need is none other then, David REID!!!!!!

[Corvus]

I just see zero reason for this for all the reasons that have already been mentioned and here at the deadline barring an injury to our current 5 WRs and by all accounts they're all as healthy as any player can be at this point in the season. Even if they were to pull the trigger on one of these 9-game rental receivers, would they really be able to learn this offense and contribute more than our current guys already are? Jacoby actually seems to be improved this year with his route running and actual catching ability while Marlon and Tandon have actually been pretty productive all offensive woes considered. With Deonte's potential in big play speed and already knowing the offense, it just seems like a total waste of another draft pick(s) for a guy we likely wouldn't be able to resign with our limited cap space (not to mention in-house to-be free agents like Pitta,etc).

[GrimCoconut]

If we cant fixs our O-line problem it doesnt matter if we had AP & Calvin Johnson, The run game doesn't work and the pass blocking is not holding up. So until then we're screwed......


But who we really need is none other then, David REID!!!!!!

Dude, stop trolling. Seriously. 

[PurpleCityLights]

But tell the truth people, we would've been better off with Derrick Mason then Dallas Clark ( salary 4.53million).....& they made that man retire.

Or not sign Vonta back, not have given David Reid 2million & not sign Dallas Clark or Huff we could have keep Q......But you know John, always trying to ice skate up hill.