LT Bryant McKinnie says he left the Ravens with no regrets and weighs in on transition to OL coach Juan Castillo

[Ravenskid52752]

 

 

       Traded to the Miami Dolphins in exchange for a conditional late-   round draft pick Monday, veteran offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie left the    Ravens with no regrets.

Although it was a frequently bumpy ride that ended with him being replaced by Eugene Monroe as the Ravens' left tackle before being unloaded to the Dolphins, McKinnie says he harbors no hard feelings about his time in Baltimore and cherishes his Super Bowl ring.

"I look at the whole experience of me coming to Baltimore as a positive even though we both moved on at the end," McKinnie told The Baltimore Sun on Friday night. "I thanked Ray Lewis at the ring ceremony in June because he was the key instrument in me coming to Baltimore. He stepped up and called me every day and orchestrated the whole thing. He really taught me a lot. I told him that in a conversation and he was amazed that I took the time out to say how much I appreciated that.

"I learned so many things from him. I take what I learned from him and I'll try to teach these other guys down here in Miami and be a mentor. I appreciated my time in Baltimore. It was a great learning experience and I was able to get a ring. I will always be a part of the Baltimore Ravens' Super Bowl team. That's something no one can ever take away"

Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-bryant-mckinnie-says-he-left-ravens-with-no-regrets-weighs-in-on-transition-to-juan-castillo-20131026,0,1111283.story#ixzz2irBqFr4E

[Lightlock]

Yep, I was wondering when or if somebody was going to post about this one.  It's interesting to hear from a player's perspective that a coach (in this case, Castillo) seems uncompromising in his approach to teaching new players, and not taking into consideration that everyone learns differently.  I don't know much about him, and maybe it's too early to say for sure, but if he can't adjust his methods to something that works for *this* group of Ravens, then he could be the greatest coach ever and it still wouldn't do us any good.

[GrimCoconut]

That's a great read but you could've shortened the title or posted this in several other threads with discussions related to this material. Also, I think it's against the rules to post entire articles. I know you're allowed to post segments of an article but I believe you're not allowed to post practically the entire article in the post. Just highlights, from what I'm aware and then the link.

Thanks for posting it.

[arnie_uk]

He has the link grim

[runamuk]

Now the truth comes out ! There were scheme changes and Castillo is responsible. OH and to the "teachers" who blamed it all on Gino and tried to "teach us unintelligent fans what a center is "....go back to school

[PolishRifle]

Castillo is just part of the problem. We went back to the old approach and did something change? The pass protection was good at times, eventhough Joe saw a lot of pressure up front and the run blocking was, once more, bad.

We have two injured guards and an inexperienced Center.

[GrimCoconut]

He has the link grim

Yeah but I think he posted too much of the article IIRC. I could be wrong. I edited my post to make more sense because I figured it was too ambiguous.

[The Raven]

Castillo is just part of the problem. We went back to the old approach and did something change? The pass protection was good at times, eventhough Joe saw a lot of pressure up front and the run blocking was, once more, bad.

We have two injured guards and an inexperienced Center.

 

Well, we averaged 3 yards a carry instead of the usual 2. That's an improvement. Haha!

[Jokerraven]

Castillo is just part of the problem. We went back to the old approach and did something change? The pass protection was good at times, eventhough Joe saw a lot of pressure up front and the run blocking was, once more, bad.

We have two injured guards and an inexperienced Center.

and this is why we are still struggling . Mckinnie is right you can't perform unless your 100%

[The Raven]

Seems to me that Castillo is more of a problem than we thought. I do respect the reasons they brought him here for. He's phenomenal at developing young linemen. He is undoubtedly a great teacher. He's just doing too much right now.

[MrPlankton]

"Juan likes to develop young players, because that's what he did in Philly," McKinnie said. "He is a good coach and he does help you with your technique, but he wants it done a certain way. My thing is everybody doesn't have the exact same talent or learn things the same way. I don't feel like you can coach everybody exactly the same. Not everyone is going to react the same."

 

Cam Cameron all over again.

[Ravenskid52752]

Yeah but I think he posted too much of the article IIRC. I could be wrong. I edited my post to make more sense because I figured it was too ambiguous.

thanks for posting. yeah they shorten it for me thanks BR.com, but i felt this thread needed to be put out since t is the bye and this is from a player propective of Juan and also a thing that caught me off guard was that he said it's going to take 9 games to finally get it right like what????

[PurpleCityLights]

Nothing new to me, I have been saying this all along, people didn't want to hear or believe it...

[GrimCoconut]

thanks for posting. yeah they shorten it for me thanks BR.com, but i felt this thread needed to be put out since t is the bye and this is from a player propective of Juan and also a thing that caught me off guard was that he said it's going to take 9 games to finally get it right like what????

Well, OL chemistry does take time so I'm not surprised and considering that Juan wanted it a certain way that's less surprising. I really liked the article and I'm glad you posted it. Thank you once again. Really insightful.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

I think the coaching staff wants all new players, a team turn over, so they can start from scratch and take full credit for that success.
The problem is, (as I read in the article), that the regimented coaching approach seems to be forcing players to play new scheme, instead of creating scheme changes based on players ability, both physical and mental, or using successful schemes from predecessors.

Looking back, Every friend coach of Harbaugh, had the exact same approach towards the players. Cam, Mattison, Castillo, etc.

You would think with all the film study going on, even archived plays and schemes from the past that had a high success rate, would be the foundation going forward. The players that have been here would know those plays/scheme that worked. The point would be to keep it simple, build your changes into what is already working, maybe change terminology, but instead with Mattison following Rex's blitzes we get a rush 3 prevent defense scheme, or even Cam not using Boldin across the middle which is what he made a living doing before he came here, or making Heap a blocking tight end, ahhh history keeps repeating itself for some dumb unknown reason.

Bottom line, coach to your players strengths, not try and fit the square peg in the round hole every time, before ultimately you mr coach get fired for doing things that don't work.

[Ravenskid52752]

Well, OL chemistry does take time so I'm not surprised and considering that Juan wanted it a certain way that's less surprising. I really liked the article and I'm glad you posted it. Thank you once again. Really insightful.

thanks grim!

[PolishRifle]

Well, we averaged 3 yards a carry instead of the usual 2. That's an improvement. Haha!

 

Was it the way the Oline played or Ray Rice getting healthy and Joe Flacco spreading the defense out? I didn't see that much improvement.

[jimjim5]

thanks for posting. yeah they shorten it for me thanks BR.com, but i felt this thread needed to be put out since t is the bye and this is from a player propective of Juan and also a thing that caught me off guard was that he said it's going to take 9 games to finally get it right like what????

 

Thanks for the thread. I hate when the topics are mashed together. It's critical to read the thread from the beginning to get what is being communicated between posters. Important topics get lost in a huge thread cluster- . Eventually topics, thoughts, and individual poster discussions get lost in muck.

[The Raven]

Was it the way the Oline played or Ray Rice getting healthy and Joe Flacco spreading the defense out? I didn't see that much improvement.

 

I did notice a little bit more push last game. In fact, this last game, I think the backs struggled more than the line. Evidence being that Leach found yardage when he got the ball those few times. This was the best the line played all year if you ask me.

[Grapple Raven]

This is what McKinnie was hinting about ever since the Brown's game in the audio links I posted earlier in the Castillo isn't the problem thread. Sometimes ya gotta read between the lines, lol.   McKinnie couldn't say it outright then because he was still employed here. Here was his interview yesterday on WNST (audio link):
 
http://bit.ly/1d7UWzD
 
(around the 5:30 min. mark)

 

The thing that gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach is I hope we still aren't going to be stuck with Castillo's plan through week 9, that is just asinine to me!

[Alexir]

Harbaugh is a talker and I usually roll my eyes with some answers he gives to the press but I believe him when he said they are looking hard at the offensive line. I think we will be just fine. We will go 5-1 in next 6 games.

[Ravenskid52752]

This is what McKinnie was hinting about ever since the Brown's game in the audio links I posted earlier in the Castillo isn't the problem thread. Sometimes ya gotta read between the lines, lol.   McKinnie couldn't say it outright then because he was still employed here. Here was his interview yesterday on WNST (audio link):
 
http://bit.ly/1d7UWzD
 
(around the 5:30 min. mark)

 

The thing that gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach is I hope we still aren't going to be stuck with Castillo's plan through week 9, that is just asinine to me!

yeah funny that now he can say this now that he on another team to say everything that was going on but i kinda figured it would be a problem from what juan said it will be right around week 8 or 9 like what?? um how bout no lol

[jaege]

So now the Cam Idiot gets replaced with the Juan Moron. Great! Does Harbs feel like he has to give all of his loser buddies jobs? Why would you try and fix what isn't broken. It was good enough to win an SB, you don't get any better than that in the NFL.

[jazz1988]

So now the Cam Idiot gets replaced with the Juan Moron. Great! Does Harbs feel like he has to give all of his loser buddies jobs? Why would you try and fix what isn't broken. It was good enough to win an SB, you don't get any better than that in the NFL.

 

Honestly I believe one of the  reasons why our o-line played so great through out the playoffs and super bowl was because of the help of Juan Castillo. I guess he overall wanted to take his teaching to a whole new level but right now it isn't working and honestly it happens. 

 

Castillo has a great history as  a o-line coach some times even the greatest teachers mess up or have to realize the way they taught in the past with one group will have to be different  for the next group but sometimes that  can be hard. The reason why it can be hard because some times as a teacher/coach they get so used to how great they taught in the past/being recognize as great coach/teacher  to the point they figure theres no way they  should change up their coaching style.

[jimjim5]

Juan, is that you? LOL

You know Juan was hired on Jan 21st, 2013, right? The Ravens won the Superbowl on Feb 3rd, 2013, right? Ok

So, in 12 days (not accounting for Juan getting adjusted to his new envronment and team's scheme, as well as, team travel and accomodation to for the big game) Juan was able to "teach up" an already well performing offensive line and running backs to give us that edge to win the Super Bowl. Yet......... We are heading into week 8 of the 2013 season and the offensive line is struggle to pick up his blocking scheme and running techique?

Do you guys use logic when formulating opinions? No offense, just asking anyone that follows the theory of the poster below.

if I am misguided, please correct me and help me understand.

Thanks.

Honestly I believe one of the reasons why our o-line played so great through out the playoffs and super bowl was because of the help of Juan Castillo. I guess he overall wanted to take his teaching to a whole new level but right now it isn't working and honestly it happens.

Castillo has a great history as a o-line coach some times even the greatest teachers mess up or have to realize the way they taught in the past with one group will have to be different for the next group but sometimes that can be hard. The reason why it can be hard because some times as a teacher/coach they get so used to how great they taught in the past/being recognize as great coach/teacher to the point they figure theres no way they should change up their coaching style.

[jimjim5]

gre

[jimjim5]

Great teachers know that pupils learn differently. Some through repetition; some through reading - and others learn through action. Some learn through using a combination of two or all three learning styles.

if Juan has not realized this at his age, he ain't a great teacher. He is just a guy that is a specialist at his scheme. That is all.

[PurpleCityLights]

Juan, is that you? LOL

You know Juan was hired on Jan 21st, 2013, right? The Ravens won the Superbowl on Feb 3rd, 2013, right? Ok

So, in 12 days (not accounting for Juan getting adjusted to his new envronment and team's scheme, as well as, team travel and accomodation to for the big game) Juan was able to "teach up" an already well performing offensive line and running backs to give us that edge to win the Super Bowl. Yet......... We are heading into week 8 of the 2013 season and the offensive line is struggle to pick up his blocking scheme and running techique?

Do you guys use logic when formulating opinions? No offense, just asking anyone that follows the theory of the poster below.

if I am misguided, please correct me and help me understand.

Thanks.

You the man Jim!!!

[omar586]

Juan, is that you? LOL

You know Juan was hired on Jan 21st, 2013, right? The Ravens won the Superbowl on Feb 3rd, 2013, right? Ok

So, in 12 days (not accounting for Juan getting adjusted to his new envronment and team's scheme, as well as, team travel and accomodation to for the big game) Juan was able to "teach up" an already well performing offensive line and running backs to give us that edge to win the Super Bowl. Yet......... We are heading into week 8 of the 2013 season and the offensive line is struggle to pick up his blocking scheme and running techique?

Do you guys use logic when formulating opinions? No offense, just asking anyone that follows the theory of the poster below.

if I am misguided, please correct me and help me understand.

Thanks.
 

BAZANG!!!!   LOL

[bmore187]

Juan Castillo must go! By any means necessary