Why does the offense refuse to take more shots down field?

[JoeyFlex5]

I disagree with your entire post. 

 

Not for nothing but we were winning with Boldin!

we were also winning before boldin came..

[Guest Omerta]

I disagree with your entire post.

Not for nothing but we were winning with Boldin!

We were winning with kruger too.

[Guest RBates]

We were winning with kruger too.

Wow really. A role player.  Okay 

[Guest RBates]

The reason we can not throw the football down the field is because we got rid of our Number one deep threat,

 

 

Again, Boldin caught more passes down the field than any other receiver on the team. 

[Guest Omerta]

We were winning with kruger too.

 

And the guy who never topped 1000 yards in a season is somehow this world beating player that we could not live without ?

[Alexir]

The reason we can not throw the football down the field is because we got rid of our Number one deep threat,

 

 

Again, Boldin caught more passes down the field than any other receiver on the team. 

 

That is just not statistically true. As Torrey had 10 catches over 20 yards last year to Boldin's 8. If we want to get Technical. Boldin had one of the best YACs though.

[GrimCoconut]

The reason we can not throw the football down the field is because we got rid of our Number one deep threat,

 

 

Again, Boldin caught more passes down the field than any other receiver on the team. 

Reference: 

http://www.nfl.com/player/anquanboldin/2505587/careerstats

http://www.nfl.com/player/torreysmith/2495459/careerstats

 

Boldin had 17 catches greater than 20 yards, and only one catch greater than 40 yards. 

Torrey Smith had 16 catches greater than 20 yards and five catches greater than 40 yards. 

 

You clearly are mistaken. See my references. Thanks. 

[Guest RBates]

That is just not statistically true. As Torrey had 10 catches over 20 yards last year to Boldin's 8. If we want to get Technical. Boldin had one of the best YACs though.

Last year Boldin had 16 deep targets and 10 catches for 286 yards and four touchdowns.  He had no drops on deep passes and a catch rate of 62.5 percent compared to Smith's 29.5 percent. i should have been more clear im not sure if these stats include the playoffs.  I got them off of the bleacher report.  

[Guest RBates]

Reference: 

http://www.nfl.com/player/anquanboldin/2505587/careerstats

http://www.nfl.com/player/torreysmith/2495459/careerstats

 

Boldin had 17 catches greater than 20 yards, and only one catch greater than 40 yards. 

Torrey Smith had 16 catches greater than 20 yards and five catches greater than 40 yards. 

 

You clearly are mistaken. See my references. Thanks. 

I got my stats off the bleacher report.  Not something that I researched, so i might have made a mistake.  If so the bleacher report needs to take down the story with Flacco in it. Oh and not for nothing but how many times was Torrey targeted compared to Boldin?  How many drops? All of this is relevant.

[GrimCoconut]

I got my stats off the bleacher report.  Not something that I researched, so i might have made a mistake.  If so the bleacher report needs to take down the story with Flacco in it. 

That's your problem right there. That's one of the worst resources out there. Anyone can write on Bleacher Report, even you. No  offense to you at all here. Just saying the source was a bad one. 

[Guest RBates]

And the guy who never topped 1000 yards in a season is somehow this world beating player that we could not live without ?

yes, he was a beast in the passing game and run blocking.  but you are trying to compare him to a rotating role player.  smh 

[Guest RBates]

That's your problem right there. That's one of the worst resources out there. Anyone can write on Bleacher Report, even you. No  offense to you at all here. Just saying the source was a bad one. 

Even if it was bad i would be interested to know how many targets they both got.  Torrey doesnt lead him by much anyway.

[Guest Omerta]

yes, he was a beast in the passing game and run blocking.  but you are trying to compare him to a rotating role player.  smh 

 

He really was not though.... I mean blocking yeah he was better than average but when it came to passing where did he rank in the NFL ? He was not the loss, Pitta was.

[Alexir]

What are Flacco's strengths?

Big Arm and through his WHOLE CAREER, he has been very accurate on the outside balls. We need to go out there swinging from the Knees and just do what we did in years past. Flacco is not a surgeon that can slice a team apart with medium routes. That's fine. He has a cannon and can make it rain deep. We have 3 burners in Jones, Smith, and Thompson. There is No reason why we don't go deep. If we can get the safeties to respect the deep ball, our run game improves.

[Guest RBates]

He really was not though.... I mean blocking yeah he was better than average but when it came to passing where did he rank in the NFL ? He was not the loss, Pitta was.

Now i know you are kidding.  Okay, i thought you were serious for a min....lol

[K-Dog]

 

 There is No reason why we don't go deep.

 

Other than the fact that time and time again Joe has a defender running after him like an out of control train.

 

Throwing with a shoulder pad in your sternum could be difficult, or so I have herd...

[Guest RBates]

That's your problem right there. That's one of the worst resources out there. Anyone can write on Bleacher Report, even you. No  offense to you at all here. Just saying the source was a bad one. 

These stats might include postseason which would explain a lot. 

[The Raven]

Why are we still bickering over the overpaid WR that has done diddly poo in his new home?

 

Clearly, Ozzie made the right call.

[Guest RBates]

Why are we still bickering over the overpaid WR that has done diddly poo in his new home?

 

Clearly, Ozzie made the right call.

The man is the only receiver there right now. 

 

 

We are not bickering.  We are figuring out why our down field production has dipped so drastically.  

[SecretAgentMan]

Why are we still bickering over the overpaid WR that has done diddly poo in his new home?

 

Clearly, Ozzie made the right call.

I would do a snarky 9er fan impression, but they aren't worth it at this point.

 

But Ozzie made the right call. 

[tctony]

Because Joe will always under throw the pass...

[Raving_Heathen]

Every QB underthrows receivers. I just watched Brees badly underthrow Stills on a 50-yard TD in a dome when he had a perfect pocket for like 3 seconds. In contrast it seems like a lot of Flacco's deep passes are under duress.

[MrDelDante]

Flacco isn't throwing deep like he used to. Receivers were catching the ball in their stride the majority of the time, this season however it just seems like every pass is under thrown. I have no doubt that the wind was a factor this weekend though.

[PolishRifle]

Flacco isn't throwing deep like he used to. Receivers were catching the ball in their stride the majority of the time, this season however it just seems like every pass is under thrown. I have no doubt that the wind was a factor this weekend though.

 

This is the worst his Oline has ever been. It's not like he suddenly has run out of arm strength. Joe zipped some great passes outside the pocket against the Bengals, but after getting beat up so much I think the pressure starts to get into his head. He was able to deal with the rush much better early in season, but now it impacts his footwork and throwing mechanics, just because he wants to get the pass out as fast as possible. I'm not just talking about the time, when defensive players actually hit Joe and directly alter his passes (see Joe's first INT against Cinci), but I've heard Flacco numerous times say, that the ball just didn't leave his hand right.

 

To his credit, Joe adressed, that he and his offense need to get better. Hopefully he can overcome that. It's going to be tough, though. I don't know, if the Oline will get any better.

[Inqui]

To his credit, Joe adressed, that he and his offense need to get better. Hopefully he can overcome that. It's going to be tough, though. I don't know, if the Oline will get any better.

On the bright side, Ozzie knows they can't get any worse.

[PolishRifle]

On the bright side, Ozzie knows they can't get any worse.

 

I still don't think we need new Olinemen (well, maybe a new center), when KO and Yanda get healthy, but we could use more depth on the Oline. The guys backing our starters up are pretty weak. I bet Ozzie will adress that late in the draft.

[Inqui]

I still don't think we need new Olinemen (well, maybe a new center), when KO and Yanda get healthy, but we could use more depth on the Oline. The guys backing our starters up are pretty weak. I bet Ozzie will adress that late in the draft.

Two things:

1) I used Ozzie's name interchangeably with God (instead of "God knows..."). It probably didn't show very well.

2) Agree fully. Some more depth would work wonders for us, but I also think axing Castillo and his changes to the line would have us at least middle of the pack.

[JEEPercreepermd]

Simple. If your Oline doesnt give you time, you cant get downfield as often.

[dirtybird10]

For the underthrows I think Joe is not setting his feet and using proper mechanics. We see it in the short game too, he needs to do a better job of that. However, its probably because he is felling rushed because this is the worst O line I think I have ever witnessed. People are saying that his is always underthrowing, but that wind was heavy yesterday, and no one seems to mention the other deep ball he threw that hit Torrey in the finger tips. 3 inches less and it is 24-10 with only a few minutes left in the game.

[jimmypowder]

When they do, good things seem to happen. Whether that be Torrey making a great catch or a welcomed PI flag. Jacoby was wide open down field on a ball Joe under threw. Other than those two plays, I don't recall seeing another downfield pass.

 

We have plenty of speed on this team and the predictable run up the middle on 1st down and the dump off to our back on 2nd is getting real old.

 

Spread the field and let it rip!!!!!!! In turn this would hopefully open up lanes for the run game.

 

It's pretty frustrating when you see Ryan light up the Bucs for 3 TDs with no run game and without his 2 top receivers and all we can muster is one late TD against a 1-4 Steeler team.

 

The offensive philosophy, coupled with questionable coaching decisions, and poor center play is killing this team.

Would you with our oline? If they did ,Joe would have to be put in traction after each game?