Coaches On the Hot Seat

[berad]

That's true but they have a new GM now, so perhaps there will be some change in the culture. It's probably too early to tell either way, of course, but I think there's a chance their HC remains on the team. I think they'll give this GM & HC a few years and then cut them loose if it continues. I remember the GM mentioned that it will take a few years for them to become truly competitive. We'll have to see how the owner truly feels about that. 

 

 

Yep, all three teams I named have their new GMs with their hand-picked HCs. Reggie McKenzie (Raiders) was the guy who fired an 8-8 Hue Jackson for a 4-12 Dennis Allen, though. David Caldwell (Jaguars) went with Gus Bradley. Michael Lombardi (Browns) went with Rob Chudzinski.

 

It usually works out that a GM will sort of be tied to an HC for at least a few years. A guy that the GM hand-picks will have more leeway than someone who was there from the previous regime. GMs generally have a lot more staying power than coaches, though.

[easternshore97]

If they didn't win a playoff game last year, he was going to get fired.

You think so? What was it 3 winning seasons they had since he took over? 3 out of 4? Or 4 out of 5?

 

I would like to think that for guys who are AT LEAST churning out winning seasons, the decision to fire is heavily weighted by the potential replacement. I mean - is there a guy already in our organization ready for promotion or is there an upstart on another team ready for a promotion.

 

If that were true - who are the upstarts out there? Who's the next Mike Tomlin or John Harbaugh that actually wants to be HC?

[AsianRice]

He's an excellent DC but I've got it stuck in my head that some of the division we saw on the team during the latter Billick years were - if not inspired - compounded by Rex Ryan.

During that time, our offense was atrocious; give him Joe, he can release hell on defense when offense putting up avg of 25pts+.  I wish he lowers his ego and works on something he's good at....not talking about his mouth though...lol

[easternshore97]

Thing is, Falcons fans seem to be getting tired of the constant lack of playoff success, the win last year was a slight boost but a terrible season this year might warrant change...

Falcons fans aren't real passionate fans though. I happened to be working in Atlanta last year and the same guy who wasn't passionate about football in March, all the sudden became a football fan in October when the team was having some success. I later found that that's the whole city. Went to a basketball game and there were more Bulls fans in Phillips arena than Hawks fans. Substantially more.

 

I will take you all's word for it, but I thought coaches generally got a reprieve when key players were either lost or injured for a significant portion of the season. Especially in this case where they traded the farm for Jones, and paid some money for SteveJax

 

Of course that wasn't the case for Indy 2011...but I said generally

[RavensAllTheWay]

Oakland's done really well versus expectations but that hasn't stopped them from firing guys before. Tom Cable and Hue Jackson were fired after 8-8 seasons, only for them to turn around and go 4-12.

 

Within 2-3 years probably all of those teams will have new head coaches just from poor FO work. Their FOs keep cycling, too.

 

I think Reggie McKenzie is way smarter and way more patient than Al Davis was, so I expect at least a little more stability out of that organization.

[RavensAllTheWay]

The two hottest seats have to be Schiano and Kubiak.

[easternshore97]

The two hottest seats have to be Schiano and Kubiak.

I don't even think Schiano qualifies for the hotseat. It's almost a foregone conclusion that he's going to be looking for his next big opportunity...sooner than later

 

Chip Kelly will be on the hot seat by the time 2014 starts.

The Browns coach probably should be if he can't effectively order the depth chart - Jason Campbell is clearly better than Weeden, and Hoyer was clearly better than Weeden - why they didn't sort that out in training camp is really bad.

Philbin could very well land on it too.

 

I think the one that won't land on that needs to is Jason Garrett.

[Mt. Crushmore]

You think so? What was it 3 winning seasons they had since he took over? 3 out of 4? Or 4 out of 5?

 

I would like to think that for guys who are AT LEAST churning out winning seasons, the decision to fire is heavily weighted by the potential replacement. I mean - is there a guy already in our organization ready for promotion or is there an upstart on another team ready for a promotion.

 

If that were true - who are the upstarts out there? Who's the next Mike Tomlin or John Harbaugh that actually wants to be HC?

 

That is what people like La Canfora reported if I remember correctly.

[easternshore97]

That is what people like La Canfora reported if I remember correctly.

Man... What have you done for me lately in the Not For Long [league]

[George70]

Does anyone think Chip Kelly will last a season in Philly?

[AsianRice]

Does anyone think Chip Kelly will last a season in Philly?

They will give him another season although it's still a mess in Phillies....

[Passepartout]

Tom Coughlin and Greg Schaino for sure. Think both will be gone after 2013 or sooner!

[berad]

Tom Coughlin and Greg Schaino for sure. Think both will be gone after 2013 or sooner!

Coughlin will hopefully have the chance to bow out and retire instead of getting his pink slip

[T3hRaven]

I'm putting Joe Philbin On Notice.

 

[JO_75]

The dreaded and evil Vote of Confidence has been given to Leslie Frazier. 

 

Vikings GM Rick Spielman says Frazier's job is safe "through" 2014.

 

 

“Leslie Frazier is not going anywhere,” Spielman said. “I am telling you that we are very committed to Leslie Frazier and this coaching staff. And we’re committed to our players, and everybody is working extremely hard to get this thing turned around.”

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/02/rick-spielman-says-leslie-fraziers-job-is-safe-through-2014/

[T3hRaven]

Kubiak is the first to fall. Jay Glazer is reporting that he informed the coaching staff that he's been let go.

[flaccopoe]

Poor Kubiak. Not his fault his QBs are total jokes and Foster's been hurt.

[JO_75]

Does anyone think Chip Kelly will last a season in Philly?

 

He will now. Kelly found his QB in Nick Foles, they are 7-5 and tied for the division lead with the Cowboys.

 

Kubiak is gone, as they say, The wheel turns and nobody knows where it will stop. Where does it stop next and who is the next victim who gets burnt on the hot seat?

[redrum52]

Too early to start this topic? Maybe, maybe, but I still want to speculate. Barring an unforeseen turnaround, I think it's safe to say Ron Rivera is going to be fired. After the mess that is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers I'm pretty sure Greg Schiano will be heading back to the college ranks. My number 3 coach on the hot seat is Gary Kubiak. The year they brought in Wade he was really close to being fired, and now that Schaub has fallen apart it might be time that franchise goes in a different direction. He's been there since 2006 I believe.

There's usually a surprise guy that gets fired, like Lovie Smith last year, and this year I think that guy could be Falcons coach Mike Smith.

So, who else is on the hot seat after six weeks?

Funny the direction t by e Panthera went. You really never know in the NFL.

[T3hRaven]

Funny the direction t by e Panthera went. You really never know in the NFL.

They really did have an unforeseen turnaround.

[JO_75]

Funny the direction t by e Panthera went. You really never know in the NFL.

 

Yeah and then when you see Kubiak fired, it really does tell you that nobody can predict the NFL.

 

Tampa Bay has been playing really well as of late so I don't think Schiano will be fired anymore. Giants will give Coughlin the chance to play out the season before firing him. Now that one coach has been fired, the dominoes will fall as other teams will want to also get a head start on their coaching search. If we beat Minnesota and the Redskins lose to the Chiefs, I think on Monday we will see Frazier and Shanny fired. 

[redrum52]

Yeah and then when you see Kubiak fired, it really does tell you that nobody can predict the NFL.

Tampa Bay has been playing really well as of late so I don't think Schiano will be fired anymore. Giants will give Coughlin the chance to play out the season before firing him. Now that one coach has been fired, the dominoes will fall as other teams will want to also get a head start on their coaching search. If we beat Minnesota and the Redskins lose to the Chiefs, I think on Monday we will see Frazier and Shanny fired.

Don't like Shanny but he was kind of thrown into a bad spot. Having to dump a 100 mil contract and make moges with basically no cap cause of your owners incompetence and then the penalties later. They've been drafting well and just need some secondary help to me and a few more weaoons on offense. I think Schianno is done. I don't think the players trust him, even though they've been playing well. Frazier got the remnants of what was left over from the Favre debacle and that's what happens when you sell out for a season, though they probably would've won that year if not for the Saints.

[flaccopoe]

I think JAC's coach saved his job with their 3 game winning streak.

[JO_75]

After today, it seems tomorrow the Shanahan era in Washington will be over. Jason LaCanfora is speculating that Dan Snyder will pursue Baylor's Head Coach Art Briles about becoming the next Redskins HC. Briles and RG3 were together at Baylor and could be reunited in Washington.

 

 

 

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

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New contract or not, I fully expect the Redskins to pursue Baylor's Art Briles if/when they fire Mike Shanahan. RGIII is a huge Briles guy

[T3hRaven]

Shanahan could be the new favorite down in Houston.  They have the personnel to run his offense, sans QB, the GM (who I think should be fired as well, but hasn't been) was on his Denver staff, and they should have the first pick in the draft to get whatever QB he wants.  Say what you will about him, even with the bad situation in Washington Shanahan does have a good track record with QBs.  If he's competent enough to hire a good DC (i.e. keep Wade for another year), that's a good hire IMO.

[Inqui]

After today, it seems tomorrow the Shanahan era in Washington will be over. Jason LaCanfora is speculating that Dan Snyder will pursue Baylor's Head Coach Art Briles about becoming the next Redskins HC. Briles and RG3 were together at Baylor and could be reunited in Washington.

How often do college guys get reunited with their coaches in the NFL? Does it ever work?

[Guest Moderator 6]

Is Mike Tomlin on the hot seat? Just asking.

[Mt. Crushmore]

Is Mike Tomlin on the hot seat? Just asking.

 

I highly doubt it.  The Steelers aren't like that with coaches.

[theblackdog]

After today, it seems tomorrow the Shanahan era in Washington will be over. Jason LaCanfora is speculating that Dan Snyder will pursue Baylor's Head Coach Art Briles about becoming the next Redskins HC. Briles and RG3 were together at Baylor and could be reunited in Washington.

 

This doesn't shock me, considering the rumors that Shanahan was preparing to quit last season because Snyder was "coddling" RGIII (and apparently still is).

 

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/8/5188198/rg3-dan-snyder-redskins-mike-shanahan-frustration

 

Though Snyder is a fool if he thinks that bringing around RGIII's old coach will somehow turn things completely around for the Redskins.  Maybe Briles can help RGIII, but there's 52 other guys that also matter on that team.

[JO_75]

This doesn't shock me, considering the rumors that Shanahan was preparing to quit last season because Snyder was "coddling" RGIII (and apparently still is).

 

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/8/5188198/rg3-dan-snyder-redskins-mike-shanahan-frustration

 

Though Snyder is a fool if he thinks that bringing around RGIII's old coach will somehow turn things completely around for the Redskins.  Maybe Briles can help RGIII, but there's 52 other guys that also matter on that team.

 

So it is 1:11 here on the east coast, and Shanahan has yet to be fired. How is that possible?

 

That Redskins team won't go anywhere until Snyder is no longer the owner of the team. They have had how many head coaches as of late? He can keep bringing in guys but just like Jerry Jones, he doesn't realize that HE is the true problem for his team.