Emotional Leadership Void?

[TonyTone1192]

I am not, by any means making the statement that we lack leadership, but I do believe that we lack that EMOTIONAL leader.
Leader- a player who does his job well and places others in a position to succeed
Emotional Leader- a player who does his job exceptionally well and can rally a group of guys to perform at their best in all situations.

Right now our Offense plays with NO sense of urgency unless we NEED to score. And when it matters most our defense can't get off of the field.

I think at this point we are missing that guy who will get our offense going and our defense steady.

There will NEVER be another Ray, and if you feel that he didn't make an impact on our offense just ask Ray Rice lol

Right now we need an EMOTIONAL leader to step up and get our guys ROLLING!

[flynismo]

Oh dear god....

 

In before the lock!!

[flynismo]

RAH RAH go team!! :229031_cheer:

 

That will fix our problems for sure!

[ratedr]

Ray Lewis would've made Gino block better for sure.

[flynismo]

Ray Lewis would've made Gino block better for sure.

It's Flacco's fault

[ratedr]

With our great emotional leaders of the past we were always consistent playoff contenders with winning records.

Wait...

[ratedr]

It's Flacco's fault

If only he didn't have that deer in headlights look all the time.

Gino got distracted.

[TonyTone1192]

RAH RAH go team!! :229031_cheer:

That will fix our problems for sure!

Our offense plays with a sense of urgency when we NEED a score, other than that we're lackadaisical at best. We need a guy to get our players going for the entire 60 minutes and not just when we're down and a need a score

[flynismo]

If only he didn't have that deer in headlights look all the time.

Gino got distracted.

Flacco's contract is the reason for the national debt, and the government shutdown.

We need Tyrod to step up and wave those pom poms, because that's what professional athletes need to motivate themselves and elevate their play!

[TonyTone1192]

With our great emotional leaders of the past we were always consistent playoff contenders with winning records.

Wait...

Of course not.. But we have a team to compete into the post season but we're not playing up to our potential at the moment

[flynismo]

Our offense plays with a sense of urgency when we NEED a score, other than that we're lackadaisical at best. We need a guy to get our players going for the entire 60 minutes and not just when we're down and a need a score

Let me correct your statement in a manner that I would agree with....

 

We need 11 guys on offense to get our players going for the entire 60 minutes and not just when we're down and a need a score

[flynismo]

Of course not.. But we have a team to compete into the post season but we're not playing up to our potential at the moment

 

This --> :229031_cheer:

isn't going to get us to play to our potential. Do you seriously think we have leadership issues? If you think so, you are mistaken.

[ratedr]

Of course not.. But we have a team to compete into the post season but we're not playing up to our potential at the moment

But do we really? I don't see a playoff caliber OL right now.

If "leadership" was that important we would've won the SB every year.

Cundiff missed that kick last year because he didn't listen to Ray's pregame speech closely enough. If only he took in that leadership.

[T3hRaven]

Flacco's contract is the reason for the national debt, and the government shutdown.

We need Tyrod to step up and wave those pom poms, because that's what professional athletes need to motivate themselves and elevate their play!

 

I know, right.

 

This emotional leader stuff is such nonsense.  How many teams have plenty of success without having a Ray Lewis?  Yeah, that's right, almost all of them.

[TonyTone1192]

This --> :229031_cheer:
isn't going to get us to play to our potential. Do you seriously think we have leadership issues? If you think so, you are mistaken.

You clearly didn't read my entire post.. I said that we DON'T have leadership issues. If you feel that Ray didn't get guys to play up to their potential then you are sadly mistaken my friend

[flynismo]

If you feel that Ray didn't get guys to play up to their potential then you are sadly mistaken my friend

I'll let you in on a dirty little secret....

I was at the playoff game in 2006, and watching Ray do all that silly ranting and yelling and dancing. I saw Trevor Pryce roll his eyes and look away, Kelly Gregg look extremely indifferent, and when they broke away and took the field, the DBs just kinda looked halfhearted, not ZOMG I'M SO PUMPED NOW.

Don't believe me? Go read Flacco's comments on Ray.

 

Now, did Ray elevate the play of those around him? That's hard to say. Certainly not in his later years. In his prime, he had so much talent around him that one could even think that perhaps Ray is the one who benefitted from his tremendous teammates, not vice versa.

 

But it is just silly to think that being emotional made his teammates play better.

[TonyTone1192]

But do we really? I don't see a playoff caliber OL right now.

If "leadership" was that important we would've won the SB every year.

Cundiff missed that kick last year because he didn't listen to Ray's pregame speech closely enough. If only he took in that leadership.

You're being too literal and I've never made the claim that we would win every game if we had an emotional leader. But our guys would be playing with more of a sense of urgency especially on offense. We can score, when we NEED to, but other than that were inconsistent.

Yes our o-line has been the biggest problem of the season thus far, could It be Juan Castillo and that ZBS? possibly so.. But I see 5 guys that are getting beat on almost every snap and eventually you have to take pride and start moving guys off of the ball

[ratedr]

You're being too literal and I've never made the claim that we would win every game if we had an emotional leader. But our guys would be playing with more of a sense of urgency especially on offense. We can score, when we NEED to, but other than that were inconsistent.

Yes our o-line has been the biggest problem of the season thus far, could It be Juan Castillo and that ZBS? possibly so.. But I see 5 guys that are getting beat on almost every snap and eventually you have to take pride and start moving guys off of the ball

So our OL was better last year because of Ray Lewis yelling about weapons and God? Not Birk? Not scheme?

[TonyTone1192]

I'll let you in on a dirty little secret....
I was at the playoff game in 2006, and watching Ray do all that silly ranting and yelling and dancing. I saw Trevor Pryce roll his eyes and look away, Kelly Gregg look extremely indifferent, and when they broke away and took the field, the DBs just kinda looked halfhearted, not ZOMG I'M SO PUMPED NOW.
Don't believe me? Go read Flacco's comments on Ray

No need because I already know how Flacco felt about Rays speeches, I understand not everyone will buy in, but there's a reason why he's getting a statue and why he was the "heart and soul" of our team for years. He got guys to buy into what he was preaching.

I'm not saying that if we get an emotional leader then all of our problems will be solved, I'm not naive. But I do believe it will help, especially while our o-line struggles

[T3hRaven]

You're being too literal and I've never made the claim that we would win every game if we had an emotional leader. But our guys would be playing with more of a sense of urgency especially on offense. We can score, when we NEED to, but other than that were inconsistent.

Yes our o-line has been the biggest problem of the season thus far, could It be Juan Castillo and that ZBS? possibly so.. But I see 5 guys that are getting beat on almost every snap and eventually you have to take pride and start moving guys off of the ball

 

 

We've been using the ZBS since 2010, Juan Castillo is not the issue.

[flynismo]

No need because I already know how Flacco felt about Rays speeches, I understand not everyone will buy in, but there's a reason why he's getting a statue and why he was the "heart and soul" of our team for years. He got guys to buy into what he was preaching.

I'm not saying that if we get an emotional leader then all of our problems will be solved, I'm not naive. But I do believe it will help, especially while our o-line struggles

 

There is a reason for that, yes. He was a phenomenal player, an all time great. Also because he was and still is a true hero in the community

[TonyTone1192]

So our OL was better last year because of Ray Lewis yelling about weapons and God? Not Birk? Not scheme?

Yup that's exactly what I'm saying! OF COURSE NOT!
But you do have to understand that emotional leader brings out the best in guys. Why do you think that Rice wanted Lewis at our first game?
It's a presence factor, an emotional leader has a positive aura about them that is contagious with the entire team.
Even Siragusa mentioned it today, he said that "the line was lacking physicality and urgency," and it's been that way in EVERY game this season. They've been playing soft and you can't tell me otherwise.
Would an emotional leader help their technique? Most likely not
But he could help them play a bit more physical

[TonyTone1192]

I know, right.

This emotional leader stuff is such nonsense. How many teams have plenty of success without having a Ray Lewis? Yeah, that's right, almost all of them.

Of course.. But Ray is not the only emotional leader in the league, just the most recognized. I'm almost certain that every team that has success in this league has an emotional leader. Most of them are QB's, not a knock on Flacco at all I wouldn't ask him to change for anything, just educating your ignorance.

[flynismo]

Yup that's exactly what I'm saying! OF COURSE NOT!
But you do have to understand that emotional leader brings out the best in guys. Why do you think that Rice wanted Lewis at our first game?
It's a presence factor, an emotional leader has a positive aura about them that is contagious with the entire team.
Even Siragusa mentioned it today, he said that "the line was lacking physicality and urgency," and it's been that way in EVERY game this season. They've been playing soft and you can't tell me otherwise.
Would an emotional leader help their technique? Most likely not
But he could help them play a bit more physical

Sigh.....

I'm not being a butthole here, but have you ever played any kind of sports, ever? And yes, little league baseball or Pop Warner counts.

If so, did you ever play with that big mouthed, obnoxious guy who felt he was the "emotional leader"?

Come to think of it, maybe you are right. I always wanted to punch people like that straight in the mouth, so I guess their emotional "leadership" helped me want to be more physical.

[T3hRaven]

Of course.. But Ray is not the only emotional leader in the league, just the most recognized. I'm almost certain that every team that has success in this league has an emotional leader. Most of them are QB's, not a knock on Flacco at all I wouldn't ask him to change for anything, just educating your ignorance.

 

It's ignorant to act like elite athletes getting paid millions of dollars, most of whom are highly competitive individuals, are going to be motivated by some nut dancing on the sidelines and spouting off Bible quotes.

[ratedr]

Yup that's exactly what I'm saying! OF COURSE NOT!
But you do have to understand that emotional leader brings out the best in guys. Why do you think that Rice wanted Lewis at our first game?
It's a presence factor, an emotional leader has a positive aura about them that is contagious with the entire team.
Even Siragusa mentioned it today, he said that "the line was lacking physicality and urgency," and it's been that way in EVERY game this season. They've been playing soft and you can't tell me otherwise.
Would an emotional leader help their technique? Most likely not
But he could help them play a bit more physical

Siragusa also claimed we had an amazing defense last year because of Ray yelling about God and weapons.

He's really not the person you want to cite here.

[TonyTone1192]

Sigh.....
I'm not being a butthole here, but have you ever played any kind of sports, ever? And yes, little league baseball or Pop Warner counts.
If so, did you ever play with that big mouthed, obnoxious guy who felt he was the "emotional leader"?
Come to think of it, maybe you are right. I always wanted to punch people like that straight in the mouth, so I guess their emotional "leadership" helped me want to be more physical.

Lol there is more to sports than X's and O's.

So I'm guessing you had a problem with the way Lewis went about his business. I'm guessing you don't like Brees pumping his guys up.
I'm guessing you are/were the guy who played sports with no emotion

[TonyTone1192]

Siragusa also claimed we had an amazing defense last year because of Ray yelling about God and weapons.

He's really not the person you want to cite here.

He played with Ray and went up against o-lineman his entire career.. I'd like to think that he knows a little more than we do

[flynismo]

Lol there is more to sports than X's and O's.

So I'm guessing you had a problem with the way Lewis went about his business. I'm guessing you don't like Brees pumping his guys up.
I'm guessing you are/were the guy who played sports with no emotion

You know what they say about people who assume?

 

It's simple. Go back to that Flacco comment about Ray's "enthusiasm". That's all you need to know about what kind of effect waving pom pom has on a pro athlete who is playing for not just professional pride, but millions of dollars and for the many fans who support them. Just get off it man....

[flynismo]

I can't believe I'm actually having this conversation.....

 

It's Flacco's fault!