Tony Gonzalez trade?

[Hey Diddle]

Hopefully Pitta can get back full strength for playoffs!  I think the young WR's can get us to the playoffs! 

[Hey Diddle]

This trade would be sick though, T-Gone catches everything, if he can get open, he would be awesome for Joe in the redzone.

[Puntit]

I don't know why you are so confident about his lack of ability....

Its not a confidence in lack of ability. It's a confidence in lack of readiness. Most players come out if college and take a long time to transition to the NFL. Which is why teams trade so much for the first few rounds of the draft -- these are the very small handful guys people think are within an offseason of making the transition. Some bear that out, others dont. Pitta and Dickson barely touched the ball their rookie year -- it was all Heap. Kruger was just getting to NFL speed by the end of his second year. Cary Williams languished in the practice squad for years until he was ready. That's the way it works. The guys that are ready to play "now" are rare finds after about the third round. They are remarkably rare in the undrafted crowd. We already found such a diamond in the rough with Marlon Brown, but its extremely doubtful we lucked out with two. In general you look at undrafted plyers as development projects. They have raw talent and you spend a year or teo trying to develop it. Sometimes it works out, sometime its the same reult as a Streeter -- a guy with all the tools but probably wont ever be a starter in the NFL. Most likely Furstenburg will spend another year on the practice squad, and will be coached up so he can make his case next preseason for a Roster spot. The fact that the team needs tight end help, sees him in practice every day and doesn't feel he's an upgrade pretty much says it all.

[The Raven]

I'd rather just suck it up and bring up Furst if we were going to have a TE change

[Puntit]

Rainey probably would be starring for the Browns by now if they didn't go out and sign McGahee, who can obviously still play...!

The Browns had Rainey on the team before they even traded Richardson or decided to sign McGahee. They evaluated him in practice and came to the same conclusion the Ravens did -- not yet a starter. So they instead took a gamble on a guy coming off an injury as their starter. As much as fans want to proclaim players stars before they show it in an actual game, most of the time if a team doesn't put a guy out there on the field it's because a professional assessment was made that the guy isn't the best option, not because they are being foolish.

[Gordo52]

He wouldn't look as good in our offense IMO. Still would be our best TE redzone threat, only because Dickson drops everything.

[Ravenslifer]

At this point I'd say leave the TE position alone unless there's an injury.  It's not great, but I'd rather fix it in the draft than trade for anyone we could get right now - we wouldn't get value out of it regardless of who we traded for.

[PolishRifle]

Yes that's the reason they won't do it lol. Not that he's going to retire at the end of the year.

 

It's a well known fact, that the Ravens are more concerned about Joe Flacco's PR than about winning games. That's why Ozzie traded one of Joe's most trusted receivers and his #1 receiver in last years playoffs (Boldin) to free up cap space and rebuild the defense.

Do you see how that move CLEARLY helped Joe? It's just smooth sailing for him this season.

 

Just look at Ozzie's quote from an SI interview:

“I took a safety net from Joe [Flacco], and I’m well aware of that. I’ve been a safety net for Brian Sipe and Bernie Kosar, so I understand what he’ll be missing.”

 

Oh Geez, stop helping Flacco out Ozzie! There are other people on this team, you know!

[BMORElegacy]

Tony is a class act so he would never want to be traded. I just feel bad for him. That's what you get for putting all your Super Bowl aspirations in an overrated QB and HC. 

[PuRock]

If we had a 7th round pick I would've sent one for him. We don't and he doesn't appear to want to be traded so there's no discussion..

 

I was thinking a 7th as well.  I'd make that trade for a one year rental.  He showed last night the attention he commands still.  Great redzone target.  Would free up Torrey and Rice a bit.  

 

But I didn't know we didn't have 7th round pick.  Bummer.  Besides they'd probably wouldn't trade him for a 7th, probably out of sheer respect for the guy.  

[jdynamite]

The coaches see Furstenburg in practice every day. The fact that he's not made it to the roster while we've been churning special teamers means he hasn't shown that he's ready. The only people who think he's got more potential than an Ed Dickson right now are the handful of fans who saw him play in college or preseason against subpar competition. Dickson had a huge college career and got drafted in higher round than a lot of the team. Furstenburg was okay in college and went undrafted. So 32 GMs and scouting teams weren't so high on his upside to pick him over whomever they are starting right now.

Pretty much the same people who thought Rainey would be starring for the Browns by now are the same ones claiming Furstenburg is a superstar if he only got a chance. Give the coaching staff a little credit. If it were up to some of the fans we'd have Troy Smith passing to Streeter every week and be at the bottom of the division.

Couple things to say here, first just because guys are passed up in the draft to late rounds or go undrafted doesn't mean that a player can't go beyond expectations of GMs and scouts reach a new level of potential. It happens often that day 3 picks and undrafted players become starters, pro bowlers etc. Various things in college can lead to poor evaluations coming into the nfl, some player overcome that with work ethic & determination.

People are quick to name marlon brown, but he was a top highschool WR prospect going to Georgia, he never became a total star as expected then he got injured his senior year preventing him from building his draft stock further, he was always viewed as talent untapped, not sure why some of these announcers act like he crawled from under a rock. Lol

Troy smith was more than just fans wanted him, if you recall Suggs and other defense members supported Troy Smith voiced their opinions for him to be the starter based on his presence. Now Troy smith was never given a chance to out right start for a team either so that's a whatever.
Tommy Streeter lol well, I'm huge hurricane fan he never really impressed me while there, I was hopeful that with his size and speed maybe he could catch some Flacco bombs, be a 4th or 5th WR.
Who knows maybe he will pop up somewhere in future.

[Greatness]

We have the smartest GM in football. We could handle taking Tony G off the hands of the Falcons. I'd give them a 4th and wouldn't think twice about it. He could help immediately and keep Pitta on the IR where he belongs. I don't want him rushing back because Dickson can't hold his weight and Dallas Clark is old. We need all the help we can get on offense. We should be in "Win Now" mode. We went with the youth movement and overall we're young. Now let's continue with some Vets who can help continue our playoff success.

 

OZZIE!!!! Make the call! Pat is waiting in his office already crunching numbers. We'll be fine!

[RedFire]

dude draws double teams in the red zone....like two guys bumping him on each arm. I saw it a couple of weeks ago....it was crazy! 

 

he could open it up for our other pieces. a low round pick 6 and below is good....imagine what he could teach our other TE's that we have on the team! People can learn from him which is added value you all don't see right now.

[BMORElegacy]

I wouldn't do anything more than a 7th. He is retiring after this season guaranteed and we aren't even getting him for a full season. I give this like a 3% chance of happening because Ozzie doesn't give up draft picks and Tony has already made it clear he wants to finish things out with Atlanta (it's a class move but I feel bad for him since he has no shot of getting a ring). 

 

While it is fun to talk about, this isn't happening in a million years. 

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

The coaches see Furstenburg in practice every day. The fact that he's not made it to the roster while we've been churning special teamers means he hasn't shown that he's ready. The only people who think he's got more potential than an Ed Dickson right now are the handful of fans who saw him play in college or preseason against subpar competition. Dickson had a huge college career and got drafted in higher round than a lot of the team. Furstenburg was okay in college and went undrafted. So 32 GMs and scouting teams weren't so high on his upside to pick him over whomever they are starting right now.

Pretty much the same people who thought Rainey would be starring for the Browns by now are the same ones claiming Furstenburg is a superstar if he only got a chance. Give the coaching staff a little credit. If it were up to some of the fans we'd have Troy Smith passing to Streeter every week and be at the bottom of the division.

Lets be clear here-

No where do I say Furstenburg is a superstar.  Nor do I say he will save this team and bring us to the promised land.  What I am saying is that a TE change is needed.  Dickson college stats are fabulous, they helped us a ton when he let another ball tip off his hands and into the D for the INT against BUF.

 

Continuing on mentioning Rainey, Streeter, and Smith is only muddying the water.  My statement is in regards to the TE situation we have.  Folks are talking about a fantasy trade where we get Gonzalez.  That is not even remotely going to happen by the front offices of ATL or BALT.  What is more likely going to happen is Furstenburg will come into the conversation soon.  If you hang around long enough you will understand Harbaugh's philosophy of next man up.

[funky141]

The Ravens.
 
The Atlanta Falcons could consider trading TE Tony Gonzalez before the trade deadline if Gonzalez wants to play for a contending team. The Baltimore Ravens, New England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs are believed to be interested in Gonzalez.

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=875083-falcons-could-consider-trading-tony-gonzalez

Interesting indeed.

[funky141]

Sorry didn't see the other thread.

[berad]

Sorry didn't see the other thread.

No issue, I merged them - also please remember to source outside stuff; copyright rules and such.

[rmw10]

The Ravens.

[font='Open Sans']The [/font]Atlanta Falcons[font='Open Sans'] could consider trading TE [/font]Tony Gonzalez[font='Open Sans'] before the trade deadline if Gonzalez wants to play for a contending team. The [/font]Baltimore Ravens[font='Open Sans'], [/font]New England Patriots[font='Open Sans'] and [/font]Kansas City Chiefs[font='Open Sans'] are believed to be interested in Gonzalez.[/font]
http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=875083-falcons-could-consider-trading-tony-gonzalez

Interesting indeed.

That was based on La Canfora speculating that we would be interested if he's available. No merit at all on that post.

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

That was based on La Canfora speculating that we would be interested if he's available. No merit at all on that post.

Never is........

[Scottyhard2B]

I was thinking this same thing with pitta out, wow this would be an nfl shocker! i mean we traded away boldin, there's always a chance! Lol

[Inqui]

I was thinking this same thing with pitta out, wow this would be an nfl shocker! i mean we traded away boldin, there's always a chance! Lol

We had something to gain longer-term by shipping him off (ie, a great defence again), unlike Atlanta.

 

Like someone else said though, it's a fun thought but not much more than that. Fitting him under the cap would be enough of a problem, and that's before you deal with having to provide the biggest offer if word of his availability got out.