Joe Flacco is the man

[berad]

Nobody even knows how ESPN QBR is calculated. What the heck is a "clutch index?".

 

(Media Coverage & Public Appeal * (Skip Bayless segments + Super-model girlfriends)) ^ Number of segments you can jam the made-up stat into = Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Tony Romo, and Tim Tebow.

[ratedr]

(Media Coverage & Public Appeal * (Skip Bayless segments + Super-model girlfriends)) ^ Number of segments you can jam the made-up stat into = Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Tony Romo, and Tim Tebow.

Someone on another forum I post on revealed the true formula:

"4*(Brady/Tebow) + Archie Manning(INTs on non-deflected passes-Intentional groundings in your career on 3rd and 4 to 6 yards in the 2nd half of games in domes)

take that number to find "X"

X/number of your jersey + sacks taken on every 4th game is then subtracted from the square root of your shoe size

then you apply the "tebow factor" AKA - 99.9 from your rating then you multiply times the amount of wins your team has on odd number weeks in the last decade when you throw more than 2 TDs but less than 5.

Take THAT number and add a 1.75 bonus if you have a facial birthmark (aka the Breesus Bump)

and THIS is your QBR

its quite simple"

[callahan09]

Flacco leads the league both in 20+ yard completions and 40+ yard completions.  He has just 1 touchdown out of 27 completions over 20 yards.  That's a rate, obviously, of 1 out of 27.  The NFL average right now is 1 out of every 6.4 passes of 20+ yards goes for a touchdown.  If Flacco was getting touchdowns at that rate from his deep completions, he'd have at least 4 instead of just 1.   Flacco's 8 completions of 40+ yards is 2 more than anybody else.  Yet he has no touchdowns on those throws.  NFL average is a touchdown on every 3.4 such throws.

 

Most quarterbacks get a huge benefit that when they complete a big pass, the receiver will often go for a TD.  That isn't happening for Flacco.  The receiver is getting tackled before the end zone, we feed the running backs who either poach Flacco's TD from his stat sheet, or just fail entirely like we saw yesterday.

 

Not sure if I have a point, honestly.  Just... looking at stats, typing comments.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm not saying Joe is the problem here. I'm one of those who defends him constantly so I hope this isn't seen as being critical of Joe as much as it is an observation. I think Joe is playing his end off here but I remember last year there was talk that Joe struggles when it comes to putting guys into position on the OL like Peyton and Tom. That was the reason why we supposedly wanted Birk back so badly.

What I'm saying is maybe they're right. Maybe that's why we're struggling so much because Gino is learning and going through those curves and Joe just can't make the adjustments.

It would explain why we're uncharacteristically struggling.

[ratedr]

We miss Birk's intelligence, no doubt.

[K-Dog]

. What the heck is a "clutch index?".

Its a stat that shows a QBs coordination.
See if his car is a stick shift, that means he is cordinated hence giving him a high clutch rating. Cause coordinated stick shift driving quarter backs are better than non coordinated automatic driving quarter backs.

[Speed Kills]

So, in other words, you cannot make the simple acknowledgement that I requested? In case you forgot, I said:

Rodgers won ugly today, just like we have so many times. I applaud him for that. Just acknowledge the fact that Flacco has nothing other than Torrey to help him, and wins much more than he loses.

 

But I get the feeling that you won't ever make that acknowledgement, because if you did, you would quickly realize how silly it is to say that Manning / Rodgers / Brees does not have the talent surrounding them to help them out.

Dude what are you talking about? I did acknowledge what you wanted! and Flacco does win alot! I just hate how everyone constantly makes excuses for a guy we shouldn't have to make excuses for based off his salary. This was fine last year when he wasn't making 20 mil a year. Now he is and I can't believe people are honestly saying he is earning that contract. This isn't about the cap hit or anything like that, I know his cap hit is only around 6 mil or whatever. This is about him wanting to be paid like a Peyton, Brees or Rodgers then not performing up to their caliber. I don't need the stats, but I do need him instill some urgency into the offense and step up and be a leader when the offense as a unit is playing horribly. Aka pull a Tom Brady and get in your O-Line's or receiver's face and tell them their play is unacceptable, call an audible at the line to make a play for your squad. This team is not losing because of Flacco, but when you make 20 mil a year, I expect him to make adjustments and pick up the slack for guys who aren't playing well up (Ray Rice, O-Line, Dickson, etc.) and that is not an unrealistic thing. See Tom Brady and the Pats record without his top 4 WR's from last year... He is 5-1 and earning every penny they pay him.

 

To your other point about the 3 other QB's you listed. 2 of those clearly MAKE THE TALENT AROUND THEM BETTER, which Joe does not do nearly as well. My breakdown:

Manning - Has always thrown to top notch 1st round talent so I'll concede that. They make him better just like he makes them better.

Brees - Marques Colston was  a 7th rounder he made into a legit number 1 threat and the all time leader in saints history in receiving yards. Jimmy Graham. 3rd rounder who is the best in the league thanks to Brees. Darren Sproles 4th round pick who set an NFL record for most all purpose yards in a season after he played his first year with the Saints and Brees in 2011. He clearly elevates the play of those around him.

Brady - 5-1 with no Welker, Gronk, Hernandez and Lloyd. His replacements are Amendola, undrafted. Thompkins, undrafted. Dobson, 2nd round.

 

Flacco - Has made Torrey Smith into a great receiver this year. He was a second rounder... Bravo. It appears Marlon Brown has some hope as an undrafted rookie so I will leave the jury out on him. Anquan Boldin perennial stud with the Cardinals before coming here and never posting a 1000 yard season. He definitely wasn't used right, but part of that is also on Joe for not developing chemistry with him until the playoffs last year. Bet he gets a 1000 yards with Kaep this year who to bring this full circle.... makes far less than 20 mil this year

[flynismo]

Dude what are you talking about? I did acknowledge what you wanted! and Flacco does win alot! I just hate how everyone constantly makes excuses for a guy we shouldn't have to make excuses for based off his salary. This was fine last year when he wasn't making 20 mil a year. Now he is and I can't believe people are honestly saying he is earning that contract. This isn't about the cap hit or anything like that, I know his cap hit is only around 6 mil or whatever. This is about him wanting to be paid like a Peyton, Brees or Rodgers then not performing up to their caliber. I don't need the stats, but I do need him instill some urgency into the offense and step up and be a leader when the offense as a unit is playing horribly. Aka pull a Tom Brady and get in your O-Line's or receiver's face and tell them their play is unacceptable, call an audible at the line to make a play for your squad. This team is not losing because of Flacco, but when you make 20 mil a year, I expect him to make adjustments and pick up the slack for guys who aren't playing well up (Ray Rice, O-Line, Dickson, etc.) and that is not an unrealistic thing. See Tom Brady and the Pats record without his top 4 WR's from last year... He is 5-1 and earning every penny they pay him.

To your other point about the 3 other QB's you listed. 2 of those clearly MAKE THE TALENT AROUND THEM BETTER, which Joe does not do nearly as well. My breakdown:
Manning - Has always thrown to top notch 1st round talent so I'll concede that. They make him better just like he makes them better.
Brees - Marques Colston was a 7th rounder he made into a legit number 1 threat and the all time leader in saints history in receiving yards. Jimmy Graham. 3rd rounder who is the best in the league thanks to Brees. Darren Sproles 4th round pick who set an NFL record for most all purpose yards in a season after he played his first year with the Saints and Brees in 2011. He clearly elevates the play of those around him.
Brady - 5-1 with no Welker, Gronk, Hernandez and Lloyd. His replacements are Amendola, undrafted. Thompkins, undrafted. Dobson, 2nd round.

Flacco - Has made Torrey Smith into a great receiver this year. He was a second rounder... Bravo. It appears Marlon Brown has some hope as an undrafted rookie so I will leave the jury out on him. Anquan Boldin perennial stud with the Cardinals before coming here and never posting a 1000 yard season. He definitely wasn't used right, but part of that is also on Joe for not developing chemistry with him until the playoffs last year. Bet he gets a 1000 yards with Kaep this year who to bring this full circle.... makes far less than 20 mil this year

I'm short on time, so I just want to address the making people around him better thing.

Its easy. Jimmy Graham is Godzilla of TE. He would be amazing regardless where he played (btw, I follow a lot of Saints games, and the plays he makes on the regular makes me sick, because I have to look at Dickson wearing OUR uniform).

You are also making the mistake of equating draft status with talent level. Colston and Graham, and Marlon are clearly far more talented than their status would indicate.

to further illustrate that point, Flacco has not made Torrey better, as you mentioned. Torrey is simply making all the catches that he should have been making all along, which is a testament to his work ethic and dedication. He is also being put in position to be "that guy" who puts up neat stats, because he is being used as more than just a deep threat. I think the fact that Torrey is doing Anquans former job better than Anquan ever did for us speaks volumes.

look, all I'm saying is outside of Torrey, Flacco has literally nothing to consistently lean on. Flacco can't make his guys catch a perfectly thrown ball, or do anything about the pass protection or run blocking.
those other guys all have very good OL and more than just one established guy to throw to.

[callahan09]

I could only get access to play by play stats going back to 1999, but I thought it was interesting that after Flacco completed that 4th and 21 to Doss on Sunday (and following his 4th and 29 to Rice last season), Flacco is now the only QB to convert multiple 4th and 20+ situations going back at least as far as 1999.

[TSizzle00]

Flacco leads the league both in 20+ yard completions and 40+ yard completions.  He has just 1 touchdown out of 27 completions over 20 yards.  That's a rate, obviously, of 1 out of 27.  The NFL average right now is 1 out of every 6.4 passes of 20+ yards goes for a touchdown.  If Flacco was getting touchdowns at that rate from his deep completions, he'd have at least 4 instead of just 1.   Flacco's 8 completions of 40+ yards is 2 more than anybody else.  Yet he has no touchdowns on those throws.  NFL average is a touchdown on every 3.4 such throws.

 

Most quarterbacks get a huge benefit that when they complete a big pass, the receiver will often go for a TD.  That isn't happening for Flacco.  The receiver is getting tackled before the end zone, we feed the running backs who either poach Flacco's TD from his stat sheet, or just fail entirely like we saw yesterday.

 

Not sure if I have a point, honestly.  Just... looking at stats, typing comments.

 

Your point is stats don't always tell the true tale of whats going on.

[TSizzle00]

Its easy. Jimmy Graham is Godzilla of TE. He would be amazing regardless where he played (btw, I follow a lot of Saints games, and the plays he makes on the regular makes me sick, because I have to look at Dickson wearing OUR uniform).


 

 

NE used their #1 CB to shut him down in the last game. That's how much of a threat he is.

[flynismo]

NE used their #1 CB to shut him down in the last game. That's how much of a threat he is.

Yeah, that is unheard of. Turns out very smart, but still...

[Militant X 1]

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to further illustrate that point, Flacco has not made Torrey better, as you mentioned. Torrey is simply making all the catches that he should have been making all along, which is a testament to his work ethic and dedication. He is also being put in position to be "that guy" who puts up neat stats, because he is being used as more than just a deep threat. I think the fact that Torrey is doing Anquans former job better than Anquan ever did for us speaks volumes.

look, all I'm saying is outside of Torrey, Flacco has literally nothing to consistently lean on. Flacco can't make his guys catch a perfectly thrown ball, or do anything about the pass protection or run blocking.
those other guys all have very good OL and more than just one established guy to throw to.

I agree!  Torrey is ballin' right now!  and we all know that it is no secret that i'll smoke Flacco for piss poor QB play when that is what I see!  but imo, Joe has been playing pretty well given with what he has to work with (i.e. a weak milk toast O-line, non-existent running game, WRs/TEs not catching passes, etc.).  I just hate the way the offense has looked for 6 weeks now!  smh!  but, I also understand that Joe can't squeeze blood out of a turnip! 

 

#ravensfixthisgarbageoffense

 

#Mili

[Cville-Raven]

Dude what are you talking about? I did acknowledge what you wanted! and Flacco does win alot! I just hate how everyone constantly makes excuses for a guy we shouldn't have to make excuses for based off his salary. This was fine last year when he wasn't making 20 mil a year. Now he is and I can't believe people are honestly saying he is earning that contract. This isn't about the cap hit or anything like that, I know his cap hit is only around 6 mil or whatever. This is about him wanting to be paid like a Peyton, Brees or Rodgers then not performing up to their caliber. I don't need the stats, but I do need him instill some urgency into the offense and step up and be a leader when the offense as a unit is playing horribly. Aka pull a Tom Brady and get in your O-Line's or receiver's face and tell them their play is unacceptable, call an audible at the line to make a play for your squad. This team is not losing because of Flacco, but when you make 20 mil a year, I expect him to make adjustments and pick up the slack for guys who aren't playing well up (Ray Rice, O-Line, Dickson, etc.) and that is not an unrealistic thing. See Tom Brady and the Pats record without his top 4 WR's from last year... He is 5-1 and earning every penny they pay him.

 

To your other point about the 3 other QB's you listed. 2 of those clearly MAKE THE TALENT AROUND THEM BETTER, which Joe does not do nearly as well. My breakdown:

Manning - Has always thrown to top notch 1st round talent so I'll concede that. They make him better just like he makes them better.

Brees - Marques Colston was  a 7th rounder he made into a legit number 1 threat and the all time leader in saints history in receiving yards. Jimmy Graham. 3rd rounder who is the best in the league thanks to Brees. Darren Sproles 4th round pick who set an NFL record for most all purpose yards in a season after he played his first year with the Saints and Brees in 2011. He clearly elevates the play of those around him.

Brady - 5-1 with no Welker, Gronk, Hernandez and Lloyd. His replacements are Amendola, undrafted. Thompkins, undrafted. Dobson, 2nd round.

 

Flacco - Has made Torrey Smith into a great receiver this year. He was a second rounder... Bravo. It appears Marlon Brown has some hope as an undrafted rookie so I will leave the jury out on him. Anquan Boldin perennial stud with the Cardinals before coming here and never posting a 1000 yard season. He definitely wasn't used right, but part of that is also on Joe for not developing chemistry with him until the playoffs last year. Bet he gets a 1000 yards with Kaep this year who to bring this full circle.... makes far less than 20 mil this year

Flacco isn't making 20mil this season so your argument is beyond invalid

[Cville-Raven]

Flacco - Has made Torrey Smith into a great receiver this year. He was a second rounder... Bravo. It appears Marlon Brown has some hope as an undrafted rookie so I will leave the jury out on him. Anquan Boldin perennial stud with the Cardinals before coming here and never posting a 1000 yard season. He definitely wasn't used right, but part of that is also on Joe for not developing chemistry with him until the playoffs last year. Bet he gets a 1000 yards with Kaep this year who to bring this full circle.... makes far less than 20 mil this year

This is a pretty idiotic assumption

[admartian]

Standing in the pocket in the face of a sure hit: 15%

Getting up after knock down without whining for a flag: 15%

Continuing play, business as usual, without an emotional meltdown after a WR drops a pass: 20%

Shouldering the blame, even though it isn't all yours, after a tough loss: 25%

Ignoring all the vitriol spewed your way from media pundits & uneducated fans: 25%

 

That's my QB made up stat.lol

Flacco and Eli are best at this.

 

I know Eli isn't popular here, but man, he and Joe are like Goldfish - they forget what the last play was or what the media just said or think about them.

[Speed Kills]

This is a pretty idiotic assumption

Care to elaborate?

[Speed Kills]

I'm short on time, so I just want to address the making people around him better thing.

Its easy. Jimmy Graham is Godzilla of TE. He would be amazing regardless where he played (btw, I follow a lot of Saints games, and the plays he makes on the regular makes me sick, because I have to look at Dickson wearing OUR uniform).

You are also making the mistake of equating draft status with talent level. Colston and Graham, and Marlon are clearly far more talented than their status would indicate.

to further illustrate that point, Flacco has not made Torrey better, as you mentioned. Torrey is simply making all the catches that he should have been making all along, which is a testament to his work ethic and dedication. He is also being put in position to be "that guy" who puts up neat stats, because he is being used as more than just a deep threat. I think the fact that Torrey is doing Anquans former job better than Anquan ever did for us speaks volumes.

look, all I'm saying is outside of Torrey, Flacco has literally nothing to consistently lean on. Flacco can't make his guys catch a perfectly thrown ball, or do anything about the pass protection or run blocking.
those other guys all have very good OL and more than just one established guy to throw to.

Fair enough, I respect your argument. Like I said I like Flacco alot and like him as our QB. I think he is a franchise caliber QB and someone I do want here long term. Can you at least agree with me that Joe has not played up to the caliber of his contract so far this year? Salary cap issues aside, I know his contract isn't the reason why we couldn't keep Anquan or anything. I am just saying if you were Steve Bisciotti wouldn't you be a little pissed you are paying Flacco Drew Brees money and Flacco ain't performing like Brees and the Ravens ain't 5-1? I will go ahead and definitely say Matt Ryan hasn't either. 3-3 and 1-4 in Ryan's case is not worth that kinda money either.

[TSizzle00]

Fair enough, I respect your argument. Like I said I like Flacco alot and like him as our QB. I think he is a franchise caliber QB and someone I do want here long term. Can you at least agree with me that Joe has not played up to the caliber of his contract so far this year? Salary cap issues aside, I know his contract isn't the reason why we couldn't keep Anquan or anything. I am just saying if you were Steve Bisciotti wouldn't you be a little pissed you are paying Flacco Drew Brees money and Flacco ain't performing like Brees and the Ravens ain't 5-1? I will go ahead and definitely say Matt Ryan hasn't either. 3-3 and 1-4 in Ryan's case is not worth that kinda money either.

 

If I throw you the ball 10 times and you drop it 9 times should I be seen as not living up to expectations?

[PeRK82]

Fair enough, I respect your argument. Like I said I like Flacco alot and like him as our QB. I think he is a franchise caliber QB and someone I do want here long term. Can you at least agree with me that Joe has not played up to the caliber of his contract so far this year? Salary cap issues aside, I know his contract isn't the reason why we couldn't keep Anquan or anything. I am just saying if you were Steve Bisciotti wouldn't you be a little pissed you are paying Flacco Drew Brees money and Flacco ain't performing like Brees and the Ravens ain't 5-1? I will go ahead and definitely say Matt Ryan hasn't either. 3-3 and 1-4 in Ryan's case is not worth that kinda money either.

 

But atleast Flacco has a ring to go with that contract.

 

What Ryans excuse, He is stacked at WR also.

 

Im not saying Flacco is playing up to his contract  but there are good reasons why he isnt.

[arnie_uk]

Fair enough, I respect your argument. Like I said I like Flacco alot and like him as our QB. I think he is a franchise caliber QB and someone I do want here long term. Can you at least agree with me that Joe has not played up to the caliber of his contract so far this year? Salary cap issues aside, I know his contract isn't the reason why we couldn't keep Anquan or anything. I am just saying if you were Steve Bisciotti wouldn't you be a little pissed you are paying Flacco Drew Brees money and Flacco ain't performing like Brees and the Ravens ain't 5-1? I will go ahead and definitely say Matt Ryan hasn't either. 3-3 and 1-4 in Ryan's case is not worth that kinda money either.

this offense goes as the oline goes. See the playoffs. Case closed. Fix the oline and we beat denver and new england on the way to the superbowl

[Static]

Flacco is 6th in passing yards in a STRUGGLING OFFENSE with zero run game, o-line and WR troubles.

 

 

Imagine if our offense got it together.

[JohnJohnson]

Fair enough, I respect your argument. Like I said I like Flacco alot and like him as our QB. I think he is a franchise caliber QB and someone I do want here long term. Can you at least agree with me that Joe has not played up to the caliber of his contract so far this year? Salary cap issues aside, I know his contract isn't the reason why we couldn't keep Anquan or anything. I am just saying if you were Steve Bisciotti wouldn't you be a little pissed you are paying Flacco Drew Brees money and Flacco ain't performing like Brees and the Ravens ain't 5-1? I will go ahead and definitely say Matt Ryan hasn't either. 3-3 and 1-4 in Ryan's case is not worth that kinda money either.

 

Actually, Flacco has never looked better. He's evading pressure like never before. The main problem is that our team is not supporting Flacco in the most crucial way, pass protection. This is related to the lack of a run game and to the sometimes predictable play calling; the offense is in predictable passing situations too frequently. The playbook is designed to take advantage of Flacco's proficiency at striking on intermediate and deep routes, but the coaching/execution is instead leaving us vulnerable to turnovers. I will say that Flacco has not really taken over at the line, but it's hard to say how much of that is a coaching decision.

[PolishRifle]

Flacco is 6th in passing yards in a STRUGGLING OFFENSE with zero run game, o-line and WR troubles.

 

 

Imagine if our offense got it together.

 

Well, he is being asked to throw more since the run offense can't move the chains to save their lives. We need to go back to passing the ball more. I don't care about what happened in the Bills game, because at this point it's our best chance to score.

[Ravensfan23]

Joe Flacco's performance in 2013 is really exposing those who really know football and those who really don't. Surprisingly there are a lot of so called experts and talking heads who really don't know football. People looking for stats to justify Flacco playing up to his contract is missing the bigger picture imo. Yes the numbers are great and they usually lead to big success for Flacco and the offense as a whole. However the bigger reason why Flacco is earning his money is because of his leadership and his ability to stand taall among all the poor play surrounding him. Joe is doing a really great job of leading this offense, even at it's worse. With all the drops, missed opportunities and lost stats Flacco has never pointed the finger and continues to instill plenty of confident in his players.

We talk about Elite QBs getting the best out of players, well Doss and Brown are playing really well, Jacoby looks much better playing with Flacco then Schuab, Dallas Clark is quitely starting to pick up his play. None of these guys are houshold names expect Jacoby, but Flacco is putting these guys in position to make plays. It is crazy how well Flacco is playing despite the pieces around him not playing so well.

Watching 1 Winning Drive you see Flacco teaching his young WRs including Torrey. Joe is putting all the work in required to be great and his performing well. The numbers don't show just how well Flacco is performing and if you don't believe he's playing up to his contract you are mistaken imo.

[flynismo]

Fair enough, I respect your argument. Like I said I like Flacco alot and like him as our QB. I think he is a franchise caliber QB and someone I do want here long term. Can you at least agree with me that Joe has not played up to the caliber of his contract so far this year? Salary cap issues aside, I know his contract isn't the reason why we couldn't keep Anquan or anything. I am just saying if you were Steve Bisciotti wouldn't you be a little pissed you are paying Flacco Drew Brees money and Flacco ain't performing like Brees and the Ravens ain't 5-1? I will go ahead and definitely say Matt Ryan hasn't either. 3-3 and 1-4 in Ryan's case is not worth that kinda money either.

No way, I would not be upset in the least regarding Flacco. Put Brees on this team. What exactly would he do that Flacco isn't? Would the receivers stop dropping the ball just because the name on the jersey says Brees instead of Flacco? Would our OL run and pass block with a different qb under center? Flacco is doing everything he possibly can with what he has.
The Saints are 5-1? Like I said, I follow nearly all their games, and Brees poor performance against NE is a big reason they lost last week. And the Saints beat TB, 16-14, DESPITE drew Brees having another terrible game. In reality, he should have cost the Saints two games rather than one, but his defense bailed him out against Tampa.
Joe on the other hand cost us the game against BUF. That's it. We likely would have beat Denver if we didn't drop eight passes, including two TDs.

People try to say how inconsistent Flacco is, but when you compare him to the other elite QBs, he is no more or less consistent.

One more thing...pit Flacco over in the NFCS on the Saints team, and I guarantee he puts up the same stats as Brees

[cursona pirate]

I hope Flacco lights it up against the Steelers. So far Flacco is doing great when it comes to yards passing. Also Flacco is running alot more because of how terrible our Oline is. Flacco is the only one really trying on Offense it seems sometimes. He is putting the team on his back.

[gabefergy]

The Ravens have the worst OL in football, a no name Receiver corps, and the 2nd worst run game in football, but Flacco has been able to make plays time and time again. I would love to see the average distance we have had on 3rd down. I'll bet its the worst in the league.

Remember when everybody thought Torrey couldn't become a #1 WR? Well Flacco has made him into one of the best. Our #2 is an UDFA. Our 3rd best option is a TE that everyone thought was washed up.

No QB in the NFL is playing with a worse hand, but outside of the 5 int fiasco, Flacco has been the man. Even then he brought us back in the 2nd half with a good chance to win. He has earned every penny of that contract IMO.

[PolishRifle]

The Bills game was bad, really bad and the the loss it totally on him, but apart of that game I do agree that Joe is having one of his best seasons yet. Too bad, that the gameplan and personal doesn't really fit our top performers on offense well. This season should be all about Joe getting Torrey the ball, but meanwhile we are still trying to "establish the run". I'd rather see Rice catch more passes by now. Atleast this way he is consistently getting us 3 to 4 yards instead of 1 or 2.

[Militant X 1]

If Flacco can correct two flaws in his game he will be a great QB. I think his problems are holding on to the ball a little longer than he should because when he does he is not very pocket aware. Second, I think when he is searching for a receiver to throw to he literally allows defenses to read exactly what he is reading and therefore either disrupt the play or intercept him.

 

If he should eliminate these flaws, he will be a great QB and amongst the best in the league.

I "see" and say the same thing!

 

Flacco is tough...no question

But With that being said..

he holds on to the ball a tad bit to long...and his play this year is anything to applaud. I don't think the line is as much to blame as receivers not holding onto the ball in some of those games.

Flacco, the line, and receivers have all performed average to below average.

imagine that!  someone else that "sees" what I see as well.  interesting! 

 

I've said this over and over.  imo, Flacco holds the ball too long at times and his pocket awareness gets under my skin at times.  I know he is trying to stand tall in there and make something happen but c'mon!  at some point, my man Joe needs to scramble out of there and make something happen with his legs to extend the play if need be.

 

#Mili