Is Juan Castillo the problem?

[blackbird29]

The Ravens HC that's who! Haha! It was probably something he came up with. Then took it to Oz and Steve B and snowed them with the fancy name so his buddy from his ST coach days would have a job after being fired and turned down everywhere else he went.

Who hires a run game coordinator anyway? What ever happened to having the good ol fashioned OC and OLC?

[PurpleCityLights]

Who hires a run game coordinator anyway? What ever happened to having the good ol fashioned OC and OLC?

I think John is trying to build something offensively here he can hang his hat on but everything he touches turns into an epic fail - Him & Cam, now him & Castillo ...

[easternshore97]

BMac being totally candid

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2013/10/26/5030856/bryant-mckinnie-not-sure-why-ravens-brought-in-run-game-coordinator

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-bryant-mckinnie-says-he-left-ravens-with-no-regrets-weighs-in-on-transition-to-juan-castillo-20131026,0,1111283.story

[blackbird29]

I think John is trying to build something offensively here he can hang his hat on but everything he touches turns into an epic fail - Him & Cam, now him & Castillo ...

Keeps that up and in 5 years he will be a ST coach again somewhere. Maybe for his bro in SF. How crazy would that be?

[PurpleCityLights]

Keeps that up and in 5 years he will be a ST coach again somewhere. Maybe for his bro in SF. How crazy would that be?

very lol

[blackbird29]

very lol

maybe he could learn a thing or two if it does happen! Not saying it would happen but it has in the past to other coaches. Wasn't Spags, our "defensive consultant", an example of that?

[The Raven]

That Castillo, the "run game coordinator",  broke something that didn't need fixing to begin with. We should change his title to "run game stopper" as in he came in and our entire run game has just stopped.

 

Yeah, sorry, no, Harbaugh has said numerous times that scheme changes are coming on the OL.

[The Raven]

Somebody please change the title of this thread. It gets to me every time I come to the forums. This guy may not be the problem long term, but he is definitely the reason we suck at running the ball and clearing lanes.

John Harbaugh will never ever admit he is wrong, because that's not his style. He lets his ego live life for him. So, it is up to people like Ozzie and Steve to stop the rot. Arrest the rot, by correcting the cause, not the effect. We have fairly decent players on the O-line, but they are in total disarray because they are getting away from the things they did successfully and trying something new.

This is the best illustration of subtraction by addition there is right now.

 

Lmao, clueless. Harbaugh himself said that scheme changes were made and more are coming. Maybe you should pay attention to what he says before you make silly, asinine statements like this.;

[jazz1988]

Who hires a run game coordinator anyway? What ever happened to having the good ol fashioned OC and OLC?

The Saints have one

[jimjim5]

BMac being totally candid

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2013/10/26/5030856/bryant-mckinnie-not-sure-why-ravens-brought-in-run-game-coordinator

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-bryant-mckinnie-says-he-left-ravens-with-no-regrets-weighs-in-on-transition-to-juan-castillo-20131026,0,1111283.story

 

 

 

 

The first BB article is fresh and enlightening. I think a lot can be infered from McKinnie's comment in the interview.

 

Quote from the Baltimore Beatdown article:

 

"I'm not sure why they felt like a change was needed," McKinnie said on the radio program. "But that's up to the head coach [John Harbaugh] and that's his decision. I guess he felt Juan was a guy he looked at that was great at coaching offensive linemen and he wanted to bring him in. But they bring somebody in and then change everybody's technique. That's a of change, especially for offensive linemen. That's five different people that have to get used to change. It's going to be a difference. It's going to take time to get used to what he wants."

 

and this...

 

McKinnie said there was no finger-pointing between linemen and running backs in the Baltimore locker room. He even said that the players themselves would sometimes try to figure out ways to overcome coaching if they felt like they needed to. "That's definitely been one of the best locker rooms I've been in," McKinnie said. "Those guys play for each other. Those guys are going to figure out ways to win, regardless of what's being coached."

 

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I think those comments speak volumes about the coaching hires and coaching philosophies over the past couple of years.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

 

 

 

The first BB article is fresh and enlightening. I think a lot can be infered from McKinnie's comment in the interview.

 

Quote from the Baltimore Beatdown article:

 

"I'm not sure why they felt like a change was needed," McKinnie said on the radio program. "But that's up to the head coach [John Harbaugh] and that's his decision. I guess he felt Juan was a guy he looked at that was great at coaching offensive linemen and he wanted to bring him in. But they bring somebody in and then change everybody's technique. That's a of change, especially for offensive linemen. That's five different people that have to get used to change. It's going to be a difference. It's going to take time to get used to what he wants."

 

and this...

 

McKinnie said there was no finger-pointing between linemen and running backs in the Baltimore locker room. He even said that the players themselves would sometimes try to figure out ways to overcome coaching if they felt like they needed to. "That's definitely been one of the best locker rooms I've been in," McKinnie said. "Those guys play for each other. Those guys are going to figure out ways to win, regardless of what's being coached."

 

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I think those comments speak volumes about the coaching hires and coaching philosophies over the past couple of years.

 

 

 

While I agree with your sentiment, and have been questioning Castillos role with the team since preseason.... I would just advise to keep McKinnie's comments in perspective.

 

There most likely is some truth to what he's saying, but keep in mind this is a guy who was in the coaching "doghouse" for almost an entire year, forced to maintain strict weight clauses in his contract, then played really well in a playoff run to help the organization win a super bowl, only to be replaced the following year by a midseason trade acquisition which had to be somewhat embarrassing considering it was the 1st of its kind in franchise history.

 

He's got a reason to want to talk. And he's got incentive to want to make certain people look the guilty party.

 

So, yes I'm sure Castillo's scheme change deserves some major blame, and I bet he's been stubborn in wanting to force it to work even when its clearly not. But on the flip side, I would almost guarantee that certain guys like McKinnie who didn't like the scheme change did not give their full effort toward making it work just to prove their point - which is entirely separate but equal issue.

[easternshore97]

The Saints have one

I just don't think of the Saints as a running threat. Not sure how long he's been there but the Saints are currently 25th in the league in rushing after 7 games and 8 weeks. Perhaps it's because of the week off...but then again, several other teams have played only 7 games at this point. But alas, another of the 32 teams has a run game coordinator

[easternshore97]

While I agree with your sentiment, and have been questioning Castillos role with the team since preseason.... I would just advise to keep McKinnie's comments in perspective.

 

There most likely is some truth to what he's saying, but keep in mind this is a guy who was in the coaching "doghouse" for almost an entire year, forced to maintain strict weight clauses in his contract, then played really well in a playoff run to help the organization win a super bowl, only to be replaced the following year by a midseason trade acquisition which had to be somewhat embarrassing considering it was the 1st of its kind in franchise history.

 

He's got a reason to want to talk. And he's got incentive to want to make certain people look the guilty party.

 

So, yes I'm sure Castillo's scheme change deserves some major blame, and I bet he's been stubborn in wanting to force it to work even when its clearly not. But on the flip side, I would almost guarantee that certain guys like McKinnie who didn't like the scheme change did not give their full effort toward making it work just to prove their point - which is entirely separate but equal issue.

Did you read the part where he says Castillo said it would take about 8 or 9 weeks for it to all start gelling?

 

Do you really think McKinnie is salty after being in the doghouse for a year and then coming on to start and help the team to a Super Bowl? I would think that he got the questions for his radio interview right there on the spot and didn't really have time to think about how he would make somebody look bad. Hasn't there been talk from Harbaugh about changes and tweaks to the run game? So if McKinnie was real salty, his thoughts may actually be the same thoughts that his teammates on the OL have right now?

 

Fact is - the run game worked last year. I scratched my had back in January when I saw that the Ravens were bringing in Juan Castillo...all I could do is wonder and wonder and wonder some more about how this guy was going to come in prior to the Super Bowl, to a team that had spent the last 6 months working on their scheme, and then bring some insight to help the team win the last game of the year.

[TwinRivers]

Did you read the part where he says Castillo said it would take about 8 or 9 weeks for it to all start gelling?

 

Do you really think McKinnie is salty after being in the doghouse for a year and then coming on to start and help the team to a Super Bowl? I would think that he got the questions for his radio interview right there on the spot and didn't really have time to think about how he would make somebody look bad. Hasn't there been talk from Harbaugh about changes and tweaks to the run game? So if McKinnie was real salty, his thoughts may actually be the same thoughts that his teammates on the OL have right now?

That's why he needed to be replaced by Eugene Monroe. His attitude toward a new run blocking scheme affected other players the same so he had to go. Bryant is a great pass blocker but not so in the run game. He never could run block so his comments accentuate his deficiency in any run blocking scheme. Although, as I always admit, I was highly in favor of his rehire it just didn't work out. We need someone more able and receptive in implementing new ideas.

[easternshore97]

That's why he needed to be replaced by Eugene Monroe. His attitude toward a new run blocking scheme affected other players the same so he had to go. Bryant is a great pass blocker but not so in the run game. He never could run block so his comments accentuate his deficiency in any run blocking scheme. Although, as I always admit, I was highly in favor of his rehire it just didn't work out. We need someone more able and receptive in implementing new ideas.

I think he needed to be replaced by Eugene Monroe because of his youth and the fact that he is a viable long term option for LT

[TwinRivers]

I think he needed to be replaced by Eugene Monroe because of his youth and the fact that he is a viable long term option for LT

It also sends a message to the rest of the team "If you don't do it we can get someone who will."

[jimjim5]

Your comments, or rather opinions are highly spectulative. Not saying you are completely wrong, but I hope that the Ravens use a more logical approach when making roster decisions.

That's why he needed to be replaced by Eugene Monroe. His attitude toward a new run blocking scheme affected other players the same so he had to go. Bryant is a great pass blocker but not so in the run game. He never could run block so his comments accentuate his deficiency in any run blocking scheme. Although, as I always admit, I was highly in favor of his rehire it just didn't work out. We need someone more able and receptive in implementing new ideas.

[easternshore97]

It also sends a message to the rest of the team "If you don't do it we can get someone who will."

 

Not buying that at all. McKinnie was the last of the "veterans". Did you see how they rushed to sign him in the offseason? Oh that's right, they didn't want him this season to begin with

[jimjim5]

I change my mind, TwinRivers. I think you are correct in your assessment of why McKinnie was shipped out. After watching Mckinnie play today, I think shipping him out was to send a message - "if your not going to conform to the scheme, you gotta go." I think McKinnie was a part of the reason the line wasn't buying in. Partly because of results, partly because Mckinnie half --- ed it. He didn't believe it it, so other didn't either. I think McKinnie is quite smart, and couldn't see the logic in it. Therefore, no buy-in. Another poster mentioned this awhile back, and I can visualize it. I've been a part of these type of situations before. They can get affect morale if not done right.

This coaching staff better pray that this all works out in the long run, because there could be a serious divide in the locker room and among staff if the ZBS is pressed and we don't make the playoffs.

Watching McKinnie vs the Bengal showed me that the man can play. I am starting to think that Harbaughs pull with regard to roster decisions are more ego based than he leads us to believe. If this is the case, he may have pulled the Ravens into mediocraty. His decisions have sound logic, but at the expense of putting talent on the field and in the correct position to win.

McKinnie was very slick in slight to the coaching staff.

I really hope all of these moves work in the Ravens favor this year.

That's why he needed to be replaced by Eugene Monroe. His attitude toward a new run blocking scheme affected other players the same so he had to go. Bryant is a great pass blocker but not so in the run game. He never could run block so his comments accentuate his deficiency in any run blocking scheme. Although, as I always admit, I was highly in favor of his rehire it just didn't work out. We need someone more able and receptive in implementing new ideas.

[gabefergy]

People still talking about the ZBS like we never used it before 2013. Boggles my mind.

[jimjim5]

People still talking about the ZBS like we never used it before 2013. Boggles my mind.

Castillos scheme - between tackles. Hello!!!!

[jimjim5]

So, is it true the Castillo is headed up in the booth and will not coach from the sideline??

hmmmmm?

[The Raven]

Castillos scheme - between tackles. Hello!!!!

 

What's this now? Any basis to this? Probably not...

So, is it true the Castillo is headed up in the booth and will not coach from the sideline??

hmmmmm?

 

Source?

[jimjim5]

What's this now? Any basis to this? Probably not...

Source?

that is why I am asking....

read on RSR boards.

[GrimCoconut]

105.7 The Fan had reported on the Vinny and Rob show that Moeller had resumed his role as OL coach and that Castillo would be in the booth.

[izvoodoo]

105.7 The Fan had reported on the Vinny and Rob show that Moeller had resumed his role as OL coach and that Castillo would be in the booth.

they were saying that was Bioscitti's call.  Is that true?

[The Raven]

that is why I am asking....

read on RSR boards.

 

Ah. I see. I wouldn't think anything of it until Harbs or someone important says so.

 

105.7 The Fan had reported on the Vinny and Rob show that Moeller had resumed his role as OL coach and that Castillo would be in the booth.

 

If true, I like it. We could use an oline guy in the booth to get a better view of how the defenses are attacking us.

 

And maybe, just maybe, it would make sense for the run game coordinator and offensive coordinator to be in the same place... Maybe! Caldwell has been in the booth all season, and maybe Castillo being down on the field has caused a disconnect.

[Grapple Raven]

Lol, Castillo being anywhere near the Castle has caused a disconnect imo!

[GrimCoconut]

they were saying that was Bioscitti's call. Is that true?

I don't know. If they say it I'd say so unless there's a contradictory report. Not to be sarcastic but I have no inside information.

[GrimCoconut]

Ah. I see. I wouldn't think anything of it until Harbs or someone important says so.


If true, I like it. We could use an oline guy in the booth to get a better view of how the defenses are attacking us.

And maybe, just maybe, it would make sense for the run game coordinator and offensive coordinator to be in the same place... Maybe! Caldwell has been in the booth all season, and maybe Castillo being down on the field has caused a disconnect.

Yeah. Maybe Castillo and Caldwell connect better in the booth.

They also said that Castillo will be gone at the end of the year.