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Is Juan Castillo the problem?

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It wasn't damn near a mutiny from any reports. The Oline had a meeting according to the sun.

Lol OL had a meeting? Next we'll hear that McKinnie started a mutiny and was silenced.
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, October 22, 2013 - Totally unnecessary. · Report post

Well hey, even I'm wrong sometimes. It happens :P


You're wrong quite often than not.

And when someone has a different opinion about it. Like this topic you started here b/c of the 'stupid' people that thought otherwise.

Learn to keep your own opinion and shut it, if the only thing you want to do is insult people all day. Thanks!
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Posted · Hidden by Grapple Raven, October 22, 2013 - Again, totally unnecessary. · Report post

A few people have incorrectly claimed that Castillo needs to be fired, and that he didn't do jack in Philly, and that he's only here because He's John's buddy. All of them are stupid reasons.
 
Let's look at the stats fellas. Castillo was Philly's OL coach from 98-2010.
 
In 2010, Philly had the #5 rushing offense and #2 total offense. 29th in sacks allowed.
In 2009, 11th in total offense and, while ranked 22nd in total rush yards, they ranked 11th in YPC. 1st in sacks allowed.
In 2008, 9th in total yards, 22nd in rush yards, and 21st in average. Here's a down year. 7th in sacks allowed.
In 2007, 6th in total yards, 8th in rush yards, and 2nd in YPC. 28th in sacks allowed. 
In 2006, 2nd in total yards, 11th in rush yards, and 5th in YPC. 8th in sacks allowed.
In 2005, 19th in total yards, and 28th in rush, and 16th in YPC. 21st in sacks allowed.
 
I'm not going back all the way to 1998.
 
As you can see, Castillo is qualified for the position, and is not the problem. While there were a few down years and some shaky stat numbers, Philly's offense did well in his tenure there. The Castillo complaints are unfounded. He is a good coach, and if you think he's the problem, you are just plain silly. 
 
 
Edit: At the time, I felt Castillo's track record was good enough to where we should trust him and his schemes. Now, that is not the case. Castillo is definitely a big part of the problem, and now the schemes are changing. I have no issue admitting when I am wrong, and here I am saying it: I was wrong about this.


Well, I like Preston personally. He tells it like it is, and he's right more times than the readers give him credit for.
 
And despite being the starter of this topic, it looks like Castillo is the problem. I thought his track record showed that we should give his schemes a chance, but it's clear that he was fitting round pieces in square holes.
 
Yes, this means I am admitting that I was wrong, lol.



Another silly topic debunked. Thanks for the insult though!
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Lol OL had a meeting? Next we'll hear that McKinnie started a mutiny and was silenced.

It may not be a coincidence that the oline meeting occurred and the next think you know

Mckinnie is on his way to Miami .Who will we put at LT if Monroe gets hurt?I don't like the options. 

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It may not be a coincidence that the oline meeting occurred and the next think you know
Mckinnie is on his way to Miami .Who will we put at LT if Monroe gets hurt?I don't like the options.

Probably the same guy we would've put at LT before we made the Monroe trade. I don't think this is a big deal. You don't pay a back-up LT what McKinnie was getting. It makes no sense. There's no difference between Monroe and McKinnie playing LT when it comes to who's their back-up.
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Juan Castillo is to blame about half as much as John Harbaugh is for keeping him knowing fully well that he is a detriment to the team, and has been the "subtracton by addition" poster child of the NFL this year!

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Well here is what McKinnie said about Castillo : Bryant McKinnie told WNST that Castillo began changing each offensive lineman's technique, which has brought about some growing pains. This is a perfect example of someone changing up something that didn't need to be fixed . Good coaches don't change up something for the mere sake of change unless it's needed .
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I take a look at our guys on the OL. I see talent. And every week I see them falter.

 

Outside of Gino (now that McKinnie is gone) & Monroe, these are the same guys.

 

What is the only big change? Castillo.

 

Either he is a major problem all his own or it is simply a case of too many voices in the ears of our linemen. Either way, fix it!

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I just saw this article on Russell street report http://russellstreet...locking-scheme/

and if this is correct its going to take at least another month and the team has no intention of abandoning the scheme that isn't working . the season will be over by then

I think Russell Street is a fan based site but I could be wrong. The misconception is that zbs is new to the ravens it isn't . we have used zone stretch blocking before . that's one aspect of it . The other inside zone blocking is where the struggle has been . No nfl team is going to tank a season they have millions of dollars in performance bonus that they lose if they don't perform. They tried something it didn't work . we did go back to man to man the steelers game at least the part I saw I watched from work . the ravens owner is not going to knowingly let anyone throw a season away for any reason(copied from the other thread)
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I just saw this article on Russell street report http://russellstreet...locking-scheme/

and if this is correct its going to take at least another month and the team has no intention of abandoning the scheme that isn't working . the season will be over by then

 

I hate to be that guy, but Russel Street Report is no more credible than the average fan, and probably less credible than some people here. Their writers are trash from top to bottom. Kyle Casey, the writer in this article, is probably among the worst they have. Dude has no idea what he's talking about. I've read quite a few of his articles, and it's like he's never played football in his life and has never studied blocking schemes. The dude is clueless! Yanda may have been responsible on the first play, but it looks to me like Bajema was crossing to trap block the NT, which we have done often with our tight ends. Why else would Yanda just abandon Phil Taylor to go onto a LB, while Bajema is clearly shown blocking Taylor on the last slide? This idiot actually thinks that Yanda was supposed to block Phil Taylor and a LB by himself. That's exactly what he says in the article. And frankly, I'm inclined to think that our pro bowl RG is the least of our worries when it comes to hitting assignments.

 

On the second play, not Yanda's fault at all. On inside zone runs with the one tech on the play side, the center and RG double up to the backside backer, exactly what Gino and Yanda do. 

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I hate to be that guy, but Russel Street Report is no more credible than the average fan, and probably less credible than some people here. Their writers are trash from top to bottom. Kyle Casey, the writer in this article, is probably among the worst they have. Dude has no idea what he's talking about. I've read quite a few of his articles, and it's like he's never played football in his life and has never studied blocking schemes. The dude is clueless! Yanda may have been responsible on the first play, but it looks to me like Bajema was crossing to trap block the NT, which we have done often with our tight ends. Why else would Yanda just abandon Phil Taylor to go onto a LB, while Bajema is clearly shown blocking Taylor on the last slide? This idiot actually thinks that Yanda was supposed to block Phil Taylor and a LB by himself. That's exactly what he says in the article. And frankly, I'm inclined to think that our pro bowl RG is the least of our worries when it comes to hitting assignments.
 
On the second play, not Yanda's fault at all. On inside zone runs with the one tech on the play side, the center and RG double up to the backside backer, exactly what Gino and Yanda do.

I was freaking out thanks for the info
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A few people have incorrectly claimed that Castillo needs to be fired, and that he didn't do jack in Philly, and that he's only here because He's John's buddy. All of them are stupid reasons.

 

Let's look at the stats fellas. Castillo was Philly's OL coach from 98-2010.

 

In 2010, Philly had the #5 rushing offense and #2 total offense. 29th in sacks allowed.

In 2009, 11th in total offense and, while ranked 22nd in total rush yards, they ranked 11th in YPC. 1st in sacks allowed.

In 2008, 9th in total yards, 22nd in rush yards, and 21st in average. Here's a down year. 7th in sacks allowed.

In 2007, 6th in total yards, 8th in rush yards, and 2nd in YPC. 28th in sacks allowed. 

In 2006, 2nd in total yards, 11th in rush yards, and 5th in YPC. 8th in sacks allowed.

In 2005, 19th in total yards, and 28th in rush, and 16th in YPC. 21st in sacks allowed.

 

I'm not going back all the way to 1998.

 

As you can see, Castillo is qualified for the position, and is not the problem. While there were a few down years and some shaky stat numbers, Philly's offense did well in his tenure there. The Castillo complaints are unfounded. He is a good coach, and if you think he's the problem, you are just plain silly. 

 

 

Edit: At the time, I felt Castillo's track record was good enough to where we should trust him and his schemes. Now, that is not the case. Castillo is definitely a big part of the problem, and now the schemes are changing. I have no issue admitting when I am wrong, and here I am saying it: I was wrong about this.

No, don't change up now!! Eat that!!

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I was freaking out thanks for the info

 

Yeah, sure thing.

 

No, don't change up now!! Eat that!!

 

What, I'm not allowed to change my opinion? I had an opinion and have been proven wrong. I admit it. I'll "eat it" if that's what you want. Come on now

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Yeah, sure thing.

 

 

What, I'm not allowed to change my opinion? I had an opinion and have been proven wrong. I admit it. I'll "eat it" if that's what you want. Come on now

Lol (:

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Yeah, sure thing.

 

 

What, I'm not allowed to change my opinion? I had an opinion and have been proven wrong. I admit it. I'll "eat it" if that's what you want. Come on now

Lol :)

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They had a whole bye week to work on it. I think the run game will be noticeably better from here on out.

I think the entire team will be better and we will start notching wins.
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I think the entire team will be better and we will start notching wins.

Yep - that starts with the run game improving. You can't be a run-based offense and have the worst rushing game in all of modern football and expect to do well.

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Yep - that starts with the run game improving. You can't be a run-based offense and have the worst rushing game in all of modern football and expect to do well.

 

Hopefully that is the first idiotic conception they've fixed. We have to stop getting bogged down in identity and go with what is working in the current situation. Stop worrying about "oh did we run enough?" It's absurd.

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If you guys want to talk track record, Castillo has a track record of implementing schemes that are opposite of his personnel strength. Example: In Philly, he changed their base defense to the Wide 9. Basically that formation lines up both DE's outside of the tackles in hopes of spreading out the Oline. Their DEs Babin and Cole got a buttload of sacks but the interior of their D line was weak as well as their LBs so all it did was let teams run right up the middle on them ad nauseum. He also had Asomugha and Rogers-Cromartie at CB yet had them playing zone all the time. Yet their pass defense was atrocious. A bad scheme can derail a team.
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I am holding out hope but I still don't understand why he had to change something that was working just fine. Apparantly there is a problem with something he is doing but we as fans are the only ones who see it.

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I am holding out hope but I still don't understand why he had to change something that was working just fine. Apparantly there is a problem with something he is doing but we as fans are the only ones who see it.

Harbs is seeing it too but he's in denial....

 

 

PS: Can mods remove "not" from the title? it's more of making sense of the situation right now....

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Harbs is seeing it too but he's in denial....

 

 

PS: Can mods remove "not" from the title? it's more of making sense of the situation right now....

 

In denial of what exactly? 

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if Castillo is let go, it will not be until the offseason. They will give him time to move to another team. However, with the Ravens debacle on the o-line this year, I can't see a team taking a flyer with him - I don't think he is worth the risk to a staff. Regardless if he's buddies with a decision maker or not.

If his ZBS does not stick here, I see him working in the lower college ranks.
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Somebody please change the title of this thread. It gets to me every time I come to the forums. This guy may not be the problem long term, but he is definitely the reason we suck at running the ball and clearing lanes.

John Harbaugh will never ever admit he is wrong, because that's not his style. He lets his ego live life for him. So, it is up to people like Ozzie and Steve to stop the rot. Arrest the rot, by correcting the cause, not the effect. We have fairly decent players on the O-line, but they are in total disarray because they are getting away from the things they did successfully and trying something new.

This is the best illustration of subtraction by addition there is right now.
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In denial of what exactly? 

That Castillo, the "run game coordinator",  broke something that didn't need fixing to begin with. We should change his title to "run game stopper" as in he came in and our entire run game has just stopped.

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