Ravens acquire LT Eugene Monroe from Jaguars

[Schuyler Ray Newell]

THE BALTIMORE RAVENS ARE THE BEST NFL TEAM AND CAN'T NO ONE STOP THE MIGHTY RAVENS!

[rmw10]

These people don't watch the games. McKinnie couldn't give a damn about this team, much less the QB, anymore.

 

This is the issue.  He has all of the talent in the world, but he doesn't want to be out there.  He'd much rather be out partying.  We saw it last year.  He tried in the playoffs and he played very well.  The issue is that he tried for a contract.  Once he got his money, it was back to lackadaisical play.

[ravensfan2430]

This is the issue.  He has all of the talent in the world, but he doesn't want to be out there.  He'd much rather be out partying.  We saw it last year.  He tried in the playoffs and he played very well.  The issue is that he tried for a contract.  Once he got his money, it was back to lackadaisical play.

Agreed, I still think putting him in during the playoff run, was the biggest factor in our success, but this year, I think (aside from a rookie center, who is coming along) he is the biggest(literally) problem on the line.

[The_11th_Raven]

I feel like just the change at LT this next game will get the whole O-line going. Monroe is going to be a difference maker. In Ozzie We Trust!

[BMORElegacy]

Interesting read about Monroe's body of work in his 4 games for the Jags this season:

http://russellstreetreport.com/filmstudy-eugene-monroes-2013-body-of-work/

[Ravens1991]

Interesting read about Monroe's body of work in his 4 games for the Jags this season:

http://russellstreetreport.com/filmstudy-eugene-monroes-2013-body-of-work/

Hopefully a guard like KO can help him handle pass rushers beating him on the inside. This shows we should probably cool our jets with signing Monroe but he should still be an upgrade over McKinnie.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Any word on whether he'll be ready to go for the Packers game?

[flynismo]

Hopefully a guard like KO can help him handle pass rushers beating him on the inside. This shows we should probably cool our jets with signing Monroe but he should still be an upgrade over McKinnie.

Well, we knew this ahead of time; he did allow 9 sacks a couple years ago. But last season, he really started putting it all together, and emerged as a top flight LT.

The big thing with him is that he is a nearly ideal fit for our scheme, he is hungry, he is intelligent, he is a hard worker. He will take those final steps here with us in becoming one of the game's best OT....it's not a question of if, but when.

[The Raven]

Well, we knew this ahead of time; he did allow 9 sacks a couple years ago. But last season, he really started putting it all together, and emerged as a top flight LT.

The big thing with him is that he is a nearly ideal fit for our scheme, he is hungry, he is intelligent, he is a hard worker. He will take those final steps here with us in becoming one of the game's best OT....it's not a question of if, but when.

 

Imagine how much he will benefit from being with a winner. That could go a long way for him.

[BMORElegacy]

Hopefully a guard like KO can help him handle pass rushers beating him on the inside. This shows we should probably cool our jets with signing Monroe but he should still be an upgrade over McKinnie.

He had one poor game against a pretty good DE. He did shutdown Hali, Mathis, and that SEA front 7. That's pretty good if you ask me. Everybody is entitled to a bad game every once in a while. He isn't the second coming of JO but he is definitely an improvement over what we have. 

[GrimCoconut]

Interesting read about Monroe's body of work in his 4 games for the Jags this season:
http://russellstreetreport.com/filmstudy-eugene-monroes-2013-body-of-work/

I'm interested in seeing the time it took for Monroe to give up pressure or allow the sack. Gabbert does tend to hold onto the ball. I'm not excusing bad play. Just saying I'd like to know how much of that was Monroe and how much the QB.

[Poes Crows]

I'm interested in seeing the time it took for Monroe to give up pressure or allow the sack. Gabbert does tend to hold onto the ball. I'm not excusing bad play. Just saying I'd like to know how much of that was Monroe and how much the QB.

 

The writer gave a pretty good account of the length of time some of the hits and sacks took.  (Not long)

 

He's a "short arm" tackle.

 

Best case scenario is the Ravens are picking up a player 8 years younger than their current starter. But anyone believing he is the steal of all steals is going to be disappointed.

[GrimCoconut]

The writer gave a pretty good account of the length of time some of the hits and sacks took. (Not long)

He's a "short arm" tackle.

Best case scenario is the Ravens are picking up a player 8 years younger than their current starter. But anyone believing he is the steal of all steals is going to be disappointed.

Perhaps I'm missing something since I'm viewing this on mobile but I never see it mention "not long" as much as you may want to make a case for it.

Can you quote it?

[Poes Crows]

Perhaps I'm missing something since I'm viewing this on mobile but I never see it mention "not long" as much as you may want to make a case for it.

Can you quote it?

"Oakland (week 2): Monroe was taken to the woodshed by Oakland DE Lamarr Houston. Rarely have I ever seen a tackle beaten so consistently inside. Just in case you feel the need to temper your expectations of the Ravens’ new LT:"

 

Inside Beats

 

The writer scored his Oakland game the worst he's ever recorded.

 

The circumstances have to make one skeptical.  Drafted #8 overall in 2009, the Jaguars come right back to the table in 2012 for another franchise left tackle.  They couldn't keep their quarterback vertical.

 

Joeckle gets promoted to starter and Monroe is traded for very little.

 

It just has fire sale written all over it.

[codizzle]

Perhaps I'm missing something since I'm viewing this on mobile but I never see it mention "not long" as much as you may want to make a case for it.

Can you quote it?

Didn't see anything about like that either in the article..
Reading that does make me want to go back and watch Monroe against Oak though

[rmw10]

Didn't see anything about like that either in the article..
Reading that does make me want to go back and watch Monroe against Oak though

I'd like to see as well. It sounds a lot like the issue may be the guard next to him, who I've heard is absolutely terrible. Pretty much every play mentioned there includes him getting beat to the inside.

[GrimCoconut]

"Oakland (week 2): Monroe was taken to the woodshed by Oakland DE Lamarr Houston. Rarely have I ever seen a tackle beaten so consistently inside. Just in case you feel the need to temper your expectations of the Ravens’ new LT:"

 

Inside Beats

 

The writer scored his Oakland game the worst he's ever recorded.

 

The circumstances have to make one skeptical.  Drafted #8 overall in 2009, the Jaguars come right back to the table in 2012 for another franchise left tackle.  They couldn't keep their quarterback vertical.

 

Joeckle gets promoted to starter and Monroe is traded for very little.

 

It just has fire sale written all over it.

My question was centered around whether or not Eugene Monroe allowed quick pressure or sacks or if the pressure and sacks were a result of the QB holding onto the ball or due to nobody being open. There's much more that goes into a sack and pressure than simply whether the QB had pressure or whether the rusher got a sack. You have coverage sacks and of course QB sacks.

 

I'm not excusing bad play. I haven't really watched his play because quite frankly I'm not at all interested in Jacksonville unless they play a game that appeals to me. I've watched him over a few games over the past two years, so I will say I haven't seen him play bad at all. In fact, he's played rather well. 

 

However, you indicated in your reply to my post that the writer gave a good account for the length of time. I disagree with that assessment of yours. It seems rather poor in substance, to be perfectly honest. Especially after I read the entire article once again to ensure I didn't miss anything. I don't see anything that says one way or the other.

 

Also, Monroe isn't a "short arm" tackle. You said he is in your previous post. This is entirely incorrect, unless I am mistaken about the definition of a "short arm tackle". 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-heightvsarmlength031209

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/1117437

 

His arms are listed as 34 1/8th of an inch. That's not short at all. In fact, it's considered long. Anything from 34 and up is long. 35 is terrific, of course. Your analysis from the "short arms" thing makes me sincerely question whether you even know anything about him or whether you're spewing rhetoric to make a point upon which you seem entrenched. 

[The Raven]

My question was centered around whether or not Eugene Monroe allowed quick pressure or sacks or if the pressure and sacks were a result of the QB holding onto the ball or due to nobody being open. There's much more that goes into a sack and pressure than simply whether the QB had pressure or whether the rusher got a sack. You have coverage sacks and of course QB sacks.

 

I'm not excusing bad play. I haven't really watched his play because quite frankly I'm not at all interested in Jacksonville unless they play a game that appeals to me. I've watched him over a few games over the past two years, so I will say I haven't seen him play bad at all. In fact, he's played rather well. 

 

However, you indicated in your reply to my post that the writer gave a good account for the length of time. I disagree with that assessment of yours. It seems rather poor in substance, to be perfectly honest. Especially after I read the entire article once again to ensure I didn't miss anything. I don't see anything that says one way or the other.

 

Also, Monroe isn't a "short arm" tackle. You said he is in your previous post. This is entirely incorrect, unless I am mistaken about the definition of a "short arm tackle". 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-heightvsarmlength031209

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/1117437

 

His arms are listed as 34 1/8th of an inch. That's not short at all. In fact, it's considered long. Anything from 34 and up is long. 35 is terrific, of course. Your analysis from the "short arms" thing makes me sincerely question whether you even know anything about him or whether you're spewing rhetoric to make a point upon which you seem entrenched. 

 

Grim, why do you bother with this one? Lol.

[BMORElegacy]

My question was centered around whether or not Eugene Monroe allowed quick pressure or sacks or if the pressure and sacks were a result of the QB holding onto the ball or due to nobody being open. There's much more that goes into a sack and pressure than simply whether the QB had pressure or whether the rusher got a sack. You have coverage sacks and of course QB sacks.

 

I'm not excusing bad play. I haven't really watched his play because quite frankly I'm not at all interested in Jacksonville unless they play a game that appeals to me. I've watched him over a few games over the past two years, so I will say I haven't seen him play bad at all. In fact, he's played rather well. 

 

However, you indicated in your reply to my post that the writer gave a good account for the length of time. I disagree with that assessment of yours. It seems rather poor in substance, to be perfectly honest. Especially after I read the entire article once again to ensure I didn't miss anything. I don't see anything that says one way or the other.

 

Also, Monroe isn't a "short arm" tackle. You said he is in your previous post. This is entirely incorrect, unless I am mistaken about the definition of a "short arm tackle". 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-heightvsarmlength031209

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/1117437

 

His arms are listed as 34 1/8th of an inch. That's not short at all. In fact, it's considered long. Anything from 34 and up is long. 35 is terrific, of course. Your analysis from the "short arms" thing makes me sincerely question whether you even know anything about him or whether you're spewing rhetoric to make a point upon which you seem entrenched. 

He does account that he allowed one sack after blocking his man for 3 seconds and then put his hands up as the rusher came around the edge to avoid the holding penalty. My impression after reading the article is that Monroe had a bad game against Oakland and then had 3 solid performances where his only allowed hits were because Gabbert held on to the ball for too long. 

[MrPlankton]

He's been trying to shoulder the load of the LG as well as his own assignment.

[Poes Crows]

You're looking for stopwatch time.

 

Houston we have a problem.....when at this juncture we are already counting ticks.

 

Poes Crows doesn't like him. Not then...not now...not never.

 

Count Poes Crows for McKinnie

[GrimCoconut]

He does account that he allowed one sack after blocking his man for 3 seconds and then put his hands up as the rusher came around the edge to avoid the holding penalty. My impression after reading the article is that Monroe had a bad game against Oakland and then had 3 solid performances where his only allowed hits were because Gabbert held on to the ball for too long. 

If he can block Joe for 3 seconds, I'll be more than happy. Especially if that's considered a "bad game". 

[rmw10]

When is Poes Crows going to be banned? Anyone?

It's pretty obvious he's a troll that offers absolutely nothing positive to these boards.

[GrimCoconut]

You're looking for stopwatch time.

 

Houston we have a problem.....when at this juncture we are already counting ticks.

 

Poes Crows doesn't like him. Not then...not now...not never.

 

Count Poes Crows for McKinnie

Yes. Yes, I am. I was always told that the more time the QB has in the pocket, the greater the chances are that he'll either get sacked or make a big play. Defenses can't hold forever, especially in the secondary. Also, it's difficult to block a guy for an extended period of time. That's not easy, especially when they have a relentless motor like Houston does. He's a very good pass rusher. 

 

That's fine you dislike him. I have no issue with someone having personal bias. Your personal bias is clearly evident. I just don't like it that you spew your rhetoric and act like it's gospel when in reality it's as valid or invalid as anyone else's comments here. 

[T3hRaven]

When is Poes Crows going to be banned? Anyone?

It's pretty obvious he's a troll that offers absolutely nothing positive to these boards.

 

Unfortunately, being a moron is not a bannable offense.

[GrimCoconut]

Grim, why do you bother with this one? Lol.

I don't really engage in debates like this often. I just feel like assessing their knowledge. 

[SecretAgentMan]

I don't really engage in debates like this often. I just feel like assessing their knowledge. 

To quote Morgan Freeman in RED

 

"Not worth a bullet"

[Hardbaugh]

Looking forward to this guy getting some action.  McKinnie didn't look like he put forth much of an effort in the game Sunday.  Maybe that's where he's at because of lack of interest, training, eating or whatever....

 

 

Glad to see the coaching staff trying to get some stability to the offensive line which hasn't been pretty.

[sflegend89]

No Clay Matthews, looks like Monroe's first game will be a little less hectic considering he's still getting the playbook down. Been really impressed with his body of work with the Jags and all his interviews he's doe since getting to Baltimore. Just seems like a very intelligent and highly motivated guy. Athletic for a guy his size too which should help the run game get going when he get's into the second level. That's something we've had trouble doing all year and it's a big reason why the running game has struggled so bad.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

Harbs doesn't need my help at comedy.....but you better be careful...you're bordering upon a "personal attack" as interpreted by the powers that be here!!!

Ravensfan23 is one of the powers that be here.