Ravens acquire LT Eugene Monroe from Jaguars

[flynismo]

bmac pissed? he wil either have the game of his life vs miami and pancake evryone  or he wont bother. oddly enogh if he does play i think it will be the former.

Hate to say it, but I think he took everything for granted, and now he is concerned since his job security is threatened. I'm willing to bet he rocks out on Sunday, if he plays. Too little, too late though. We've had enough of the party boy

[flynismo]

What is the next option if the line gets fixed but the qb te and wr don't play up to par. I know the line is the cause of the running game. The backs were getting hit before they could get going but our wr and te aren't catching making plays other than torrey and even though brown has three tds he's not eating up a lot of yards.... is it because jones is out or was out... or did we put to much confidence that Flacco could take over without pitta and Boldin. I hope its just all the o line problems. Pitta going down hurt a lot I get that... but there are other qbs with the same problem leading their teams to victory.

 

If the OL plays well, the rest of the NFL better take cover. Flacco, Rice and Torrey are going to steamroll through everything in their paths.

[ThePurpleWall]

Thanks for the share, love that. Perfect technique on the line.

 

Love how, at 2:20, Freeney shoots inside and Eugene just crashes him inside. Oline 101. Too bad McKinnie and Oher missed that class. DE shoots in, you crush him in. Simple.

 

np, yes sir

[Guest Im An Ozzie Newsome Guy]

bmac pissed? he wil either have the game of his life vs miami and pancake evryone  or he wont bother. oddly enogh if he does play i think it will be the former.

 

I twill be the former, without-a-doubt; or, at least it should be, if B-Mac wants to continue playing in the NFL.

 

Think about it: If Bryant McKinnie goes out on a whimper (assuming the Dolphins game is his last game as a Raven) and doesn't put-in any effort, why would another team even try to trade for him? At that point, Baltimore's best option (if they're looking to get rid of him) would be to just release him; and, if no team wanted McKinnie when he was a free agent in the off-season, why would a team take a chance, now?

 

So, the story (should) write itself.

[T3hRaven]

It's cute that the media asked about a position battle.  Monroe wasn't brought in to sit on the bench behind Fat Mac.

[Ravensfan23]

It's foolish for anyone to say Monroe was traded for because the Ravens want to make BMac look like the scapegoat because he's in Harbs doghouse.

This was strickly a move to improve this team today and moving forward. As BMac said before, the Ravens already brought the very expensive luxury car in Flacco so they needed insurance. BMac was liability coverage with not much reward on the back end. You gotta hope Monroe is full coverage.

The 2 most important positions on the oline is LT and C. If those two positions are playing well you probably are having a lot of success. At least one of those guys should be playing well and if not it affects the entire olline. I strongly feel that the interior of the line isn't playing because KO and Yanda just aren't used to working with Gino yet. Also KO only had 4 games of experience playing LG coming into this season. Birk had a pretty big role in helping KO at LG and an inspired BMac only made life easier.

Now you have a C would is even more inexperienced then KO so it's impossible to expect tandem to strengthen each others game right now. Also below average- average play from Mckinnie doesn't help. So you hope Monroe can stabllize that LT position and give KO a better partner to work with on that side of the line. You hope that gets KO back to pro bowl level and then Gino is rreally your only concern.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

So, this question remains: Can the Ravens re-sign BOTH Oher and Monroe, during the off-season?

 

That may eliminate a guy like NGATA.....

[-Truth-]

That may eliminate a guy like NGATA.....

 

Haloti Ngata's signed through 2015.

[arnie_uk]

Haloti Ngata's signed through 2015.

he means cut, but it's not viable with only a net saving of 1 mil next year. The year however he could very well be cut

[izvoodoo]

he means cut, but it's not viable with only a net saving of 1 mil next year. The year however he could very well be cut

In Ngata's defense he's playing out of position.  He's not really an NT, he's a DT.  But we're so thin at NT he's filling in there.

[GrimCoconut]

In Ngata's defense he's playing out of position. He's not really an NT, he's a DT. But we're so thin at NT he's filling in there.

I'd agree with this if not for the fact that Ngata said he was happy to make the switch or something to that effect. It was earlier in the year he mentioned the switch could be good for him and that he's more comfortable at NT than DE.

[Jaydoog]

 

Sir you clearly have no idea what you are talking about...Where do we need a major influx of young talent at?

 

You're right Jaydoog. No room for young talent. We're perfect and we have the players we need.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

That is not what you said. You said we need a Major Influx of young talent and I said where...

[GrimCoconut]

he means cut, but it's not viable with only a net saving of 1 mil next year. The year however he could very well be cut

If we re-sign Arthur Jones then I'd expect Ngata cut in 2015. It's a long way to go though but he's not playing up to his contract right now. He's our most overpaid player.

[ravensfan520]

Name another QB with the same problems as Joe right now. I'm not saying it from a Flacco does no wrong stand point but I honestly don't think there is a another situation that compares to what Flacco is facing right now honestly.

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Tom Brady... what wr and te does he have... his line may being playing better but they are not better. Maybe we are calling to many deep plays but there are some open wr but Joe has been forcing it or holding it to long.. Luke the Joe of before. And the browns just beat the bills by double digits and threw no int.

[izvoodoo]

I just saw his presser, and love this guy already. Very articulate, intelligent, great attitude. He will flourish here

I remember when he was playing at Virginia.  He was a really blue chip guy.

[Sami84]

If we re-sign Arthur Jones then I'd expect Ngata cut in 2015. It's a long way to go though but he's not playing up to his contract right now. He's our most overpaid player.

yeah, ngata has been pretty dissapointing for 2 years now. 

[Tank 92]

If the OL plays well, the rest of the NFL better take cover. Flacco, Rice and Torrey are going to steamroll through everything in their paths.

Yep.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

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Tom Brady... what wr and te does he have... his line may being playing better but they are not better. Maybe we are calling to many deep plays but there are some open wr but Joe has been forcing it or holding it to long.. Luke the Joe of before. And the browns just beat the bills by double digits and threw no int.

 

Pats don't have Gradkowski at C.

We do, so their line is much better than ours.

The Pats are also masters at tweaking their offense to get the most out of whatever talent they have at their skill positions.

Last couple of years, they've executed their short passing game brilliantly with not only precise route running but perfectly timed blocking to go with Brady's accuracy and ability to get the ball out on time.

But you saw what happens when the WRs are not running their routes correctly and Brady's unable to get in synch with them, especially if the pass rush gets to him too. Then he (and his numbers) look very average.

[izvoodoo]

Pats don't have Gradkowski at C.

We do, so their line is much better than ours.

The Pats are also masters at tweaking their offense to get the most out of whatever talent they have at their skill positions.

Last couple of years, they've executed their short passing game brilliantly with not only precise route running but perfectly timed blocking to go with Brady's accuracy and ability to get the ball out on time.

But you saw what happens when the WRs are not running their routes correctly and Brady's unable to get in synch with them, especially if the pass rush gets to him too. Then he (and his numbers) look very average.

Really it's the Oline.  They also Have Volmer, who's a good mauling RT.  We'd be able to do more but our Oline is playing so poorly.

[GrimCoconut]

yeah, ngata has been pretty dissapointing for 2 years now.

Yep. He has flashes here and there. I don't think he's a bad NT but I expect more out of him than just him stopping the run. He has higher expectations than that. He's grossly overpaid right now.

[izvoodoo]

Yep. He has flashes here and there. I don't think he's a bad NT but I expect more out of him than just him stopping the run. He has higher expectations than that. He's grossly overpaid right now.

It's where the market was at.  Remember we were negotiating against the Albert Haynesworth contract and Suh's contract.

That's why we may not be able to sign torrey smith.  That market is ridiculous.

[arnie_uk]

https://twitter.com/ravens/status/386183083654799360

Bryant McKinnie be like, "Studying? What's that bro?"

[mgridda]

If we re-sign Arthur Jones then I'd expect Ngata cut in 2015. It's a long way to go though but he's not playing up to his contract right now. He's our most overpaid player.

 

No, I'd just expect Ngata to be given the same choice Ozzie has given every veteran:

 

"Thank you for everything you've done, but this is what we think you're worth to us right now and going forward."

 

Then Ngata will shop around teams, maybe to a west coast team that might give him one more big contract. It's the same thing Ozzie did with Ray Lewis and a bunch of other veterans. Ray shopped himself around the NFL, stayed and got a ring. Ed Reed saw the offer, shopped himself around the NFL and went off to Houston. I think Bart Scott, Jamie Sharper, Rod Woodson, Starks, Siragusa, Adams, Ed Hartwell, Jamal Lewis, Todd Heap and many others were given the same talk.

What I wonder though, is if Ngata will even get a chance to do this, or if Ozzie will treat Ngata like he did Anquan Boldin, i.e. "Thank you for everything you've done, but we can't stay competitive and keep paying you at your current contract, so, this is what we think you're worth to us right now, and if you disagree we're going to see what we can trade you for around the league."

[mgridda]

Pats don't have Gradkowski at C.

We do, so their line is much better than ours.

The Pats are also masters at tweaking their offense to get the most out of whatever talent they have at their skill positions.

Last couple of years, they've executed their short passing game brilliantly with not only precise route running but perfectly timed blocking to go with Brady's accuracy and ability to get the ball out on time.

But you saw what happens when the WRs are not running their routes correctly and Brady's unable to get in synch with them, especially if the pass rush gets to him too. Then he (and his numbers) look very average.

The Pats current center, Ryan Wendell, played in 47 regular season games before this season and started 21 of them. He's had 5 off-seasons with the Patriots.

The Patriots other starters on that offensive line Connelly, Logan Mankins and Sebastian Vollmer all have started for the Patriots for the past 5 years except when injuries kept them out of games. The new kid on that offensive line is Nate Solder, from Colorado, he got drafted 3 years ago and started 13 games and the post-season at Right Tackle last year.  He has since moved to Left Tackle after Matt Light retired.

Brady has an offensive line that has worked together a lot. 

In 2-3 years, if we keep this same group of:

Monroe

Osmele

Gradkowski

Yanda

Oher

 

Then we can have similar chemistry.

[TwinRivers]

I don't know about Yanda at center, but always felt Oher would make a great guard.  KO to right tackle and Oher to guard.  I don't care if it means Oher is moved again.  Try something, cause whatever is being tried, IS NOT WORKING!

I'd like to see Yanda go to right tackle and Oher to right guard.

[Sami84]

honestly yanda could play a anywhere on the line except left tackle and be elite.

[Gordo52]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/sons-of-anarchy-season-4-finale_n_1140831.html

[Gordo52]

honestly yanda could play a anywhere on the line except left tackle and be elite.

Then it's settled.

Yanda plays center.

[Yatagarasu]

Woohoo!!!

Ozzie landed Eugene Monroe?

How?

How much did we give up?

Is he going to be our future LT

What does this mean for McKinnie?

Is this Oher's last year?

Anyways, I'm excited because we robbed the jags again!!! Remember Byron Leftwich and Joe Flacco? All courtesy of Jacksonville Jaguars.

[443hurricane]

KO, Gino, Oher, Pitta, Torrey, Pierce, Marlon Brown, Deonte.

On defense... Williams, Art Jones, McPhee, Upshaw, Brown, Jimmy Smith, Matt Elam, Webb.

All relatively young. In fact all but 1 still on their rookie deals.

That's not to say we don't need young talent - good teams add young talent every year. The problem everyone has with ur post is that you're claiming that by trading 2 later picks for a guaranteed starter at the most important hole to fill devoids us the possibility of getting talent in the draft.

Last I checked we still have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, and 7th with picks yet to come for ellerbe, Kruger, and reed. All likely in the 3rd-5th range.

Do you really think we have 8 holes that can be upgraded by a 4th or 5th round pick???

The reason I have a problem with your thought process and 90% of the boards is because Eugene Monroe is average man! How come people on here act like that is so hard to imagine. I totally understand and maybe I was embellishing about how much young talent we need, but your argument has some holes.

 

Pitta- could be like Bo Jackson

Gino- I'm sorry I don't see much from him.. I've watched the film just like you

KO- has not been impressive this year

 

Torrey, Brown, Deonte, Pierce, Oher

 

Defense

Is pretty good, but Webb has two bad ACL injuries and Jimmy Smith needs to perform the entire season before we crown him. 

 

Overall I see your point. At least you gave me some feedback instead of being a [jerk] about it. I appreciate that