Super Bowl Hangover (or alternate reasons for poor performance in season's first quarter)

[reediddy]

Anyone buying the Super Bowl hangover hoopla? Personally I'm not buying it 100% but I do believe that the intensity/confidence/swagger, whatever you want to call it, hasn't been there. That could be due to the loss of Boldin (a huge piece of our offensive identity), or due to injuries that have decimated us to this point as well.

 

The main reason for the poor performance so far has been, without question, the poor OL play. On one hand this collective unit is only in its 8th game together, counting last year's playoff run, but their play CAN'T possibly be this bad without some underlying reasons.

 

Any other reasons for the flop thus far? Anyone buying the SB hangover?

[SecretAgentMan]

The wolfpack has split up for now.

 

We shall be back in 2014 if the hangover is real....

[TonyTone1192]

No hangover!
We have new pieces surrounded by our core group of guys and that is going to take time for our guys to start playing well with one another.
Plus our run blocking is HORRIFIC!

[LordRavens]

It's just a game people 

[izvoodoo]

It's blocking.  It's nothing emotional or super natural.

 

Dude's are getting beat in the trenches.  And we're injuries in our pass core.

[pep_meister]

It's just a game people 

its been multiple games of inconsistency... no run game at all. zero. zilch. flacco threw 5 INT's. offense was miserable today. 

[LordRavens]

its been multiple games of inconsistency... no run game at all. zero. zilch. flacco threw 5 INT's. offense was miserable today. 

If your expectations were low coming into the season u wouldn't be getting upset 

[flynismo]

If your expectations were low coming into the season u wouldn't be getting upset 

 

Why the heck would our expectations be low coming into this season?? Have you slept through the past decade?

[sflegend89]

That's what happens when you use all your valuable draft picks on defense and all your valuable cap space on even more defensive FA's. Offense got neglected in the offseason and this is the result. The blocking scheme is broken just go back to what we did last year, were not the Texans or Broncos stop with this zone blocking non sense. How many times did a OL get to the second level today, I counted ZERO.. fix the blocking scheme it threw off our offensive rhythm completely.

[The Raven]

If your expectations were low coming into the season u wouldn't be getting upset 

 

That's the attitude of a perennial loser. We are not losers.

[AsianRice]

Most of the time, if you throw 5 ints in a game, winning ain't your thang.....

[The Raven]

All about the line play. I don't buy the Superbowl hangover or any of that. We just gotta play better up front. 

[Purple_ICE 81]

 

Anyone buying the Super Bowl hangover hoopla? Personally I'm not buying it 100% but I do believe that the intensity/confidence/swagger, whatever you want to call it, hasn't been there. That could be due to the loss of Boldin (a huge piece of our offensive identity), or due to injuries that have decimated us to this point as well.
 
The main reason for the poor performance so far has been, without question, the poor OL play. On one hand this collective unit is only in its 8th game together, counting last year's playoff run, but their play CAN'T possibly be this bad without some underlying reasons.
 
Any other reasons for the flop thus far? Anyone buying the SB hangover?

 
Lack of offense period. Im pretty sure we are down there with Jacksonville when it comes to offensive production, we cant run well and cant even pass well either. We dont have reliable receivers and our o-line looks like garbage. Ray Rice has not had more than 13 carries in a game this year and its because we are constantly stalling on offense and our best weapon sam koch is constantly punting it away. Our defense is not that good, we can hold of the run decently...but our secondary seems to be becoming worse and worse. We could give our D a break if we dont punt right after we get the ball. Something has to be done to get our offense going because it just looks mediocre and vanilla. I feel like our defense can pull together a little bit and our team will play better as a unit if we can either get the run game going or pass better.

[Greatness]

It's pretty simple.

 

The last few years why the Ravens haven't went to the Superbowl is because of people who can't catch.

- Steelers 2010 (Boldin TD drop)

- Patriots 2011 (The Betrayal of Lee Evans)

If you don't catch the ball when thrown to you, we cannot score meaningful points. We miss Pitta miserably. Marlon isn't completely ready yet and ED Dickson should be cut. Even with the terrible O-line play, [b]The Mighty Joe Flacco[/b] has shown he can still be respectable with the football. Find me a TE and WR via trade or FA and we'll be fine. Current crop isn't doing it for me.

 

Calling it a Super Bowl hangover would be a huge cop out and a mistake. We're a very good football team on 2/3rds of it. Once we can the offense in order we'll be fine. Somebody needs to be held accountable with this O-line situation as well.  Wasn't a ton of turnover with the playoff squad to now outside of Birk. I'm going to blame scheme. I need them to nip that garbage in the bud immediately.

[airconteka1]

Quarter of the way through the season and we are at the top of the division and have been playing terribly. We can only get better from here, no need to panic. My only hope is Castillo is working on something that will come good in the next few weeks, I just can't believe Gino could have caused the blocking to drop so much.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

The lack lustre play of some of our guys makes me want to tear my hair out. I can stand losing, but not due to lazy, soft play or abundant errors. 

[PurpleCityLights]

Piss Poor Performance - PPP

[redravenfan]

Change the run blocking scheme back to what works . no such thing as superbow; hangover.if so the patriots wouldn't find themselves in the superbowl/afc championship  so often . Harbaugh is not stupid he knows what's wrong here's hoping he's man enough to fix it .

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

Piss Poor Performance - PPP

 

This.

[Guest RBates]

Is Juan Castillo still here????  JOHN HARBAUGH  as of right now is the problem until he does something with Castillo.  I think the ZBS that he runs is for Pierce in the future.  

 

Be careful Rice, they might be looking to offload you.

[Tank 92]

It's pretty simple.

 

The last few years why the Ravens haven't went to the Superbowl is because of people who can't catch.

- Steelers 2010 (Boldin TD drop)

- Patriots 2011 (The Betrayal of Lee Evans)

If you don't catch the ball when thrown to you, we cannot score meaningful points. We miss Pitta miserably. Marlon isn't completely ready yet and ED Dickson should be cut. Even with the terrible O-line play, The Mighty Joe Flacco has shown he can still be respectable with the football. Find me a TE and WR via trade or FA and we'll be fine. Current crop isn't doing it for me.

 

Calling it a Super Bowl hangover would be a huge cop out and a mistake. We're a very good football team on 2/3rds of it. Once we can the offense in order we'll be fine. Somebody needs to be held accountable with this O-line situation as well.  Wasn't a ton of turnover with the playoff squad to now outside of Birk. I'm going to blame scheme. I need them to nip that garbage in the bud immediately.

 

 

Not sure why you got negged on this, but you hit on the main point for the PPP(that's a good acronym that I hope won't need to be used very often). The game is won and lost at the LOS and we are getting blown off the line on a consistent basis. Can't run, no time to pass. And again you are 100% correct: Flacco never blinked and continued to try even though he was either running for his life or laying on his back.

 

Dropped passes?  Arghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Poes Crows]

It's pretty simple.

 

The last few years why the Ravens haven't went to the Superbowl is because of people who can't catch.

- Steelers 2010 (Boldin TD drop)

- Patriots 2011 (The Betrayal of Lee Evans)

If you don't catch the ball when thrown to you, we cannot score meaningful points. We miss Pitta miserably. Marlon isn't completely ready yet and ED Dickson should be cut. Even with the terrible O-line play, The Mighty Joe Flacco has shown he can still be respectable with the football. Find me a TE and WR via trade or FA and we'll be fine. Current crop isn't doing it for me.

 

Calling it a Super Bowl hangover would be a huge cop out and a mistake. We're a very good football team on 2/3rds of it. Once we can the offense in order we'll be fine. Somebody needs to be held accountable with this O-line situation as well.  Wasn't a ton of turnover with the playoff squad to now outside of Birk. I'm going to blame scheme. I need them to nip that garbage in the bud immediately.

I'm not going to beat up on Joe Flacco but don't ignore the fact he completed only 50% of his passes and had 5 Interceptions.

 

Flacco is not acclimating to the sorry batch of receivers Ozzie Newsome collected for him.  These guy suck.

 

Tom Brady is 4 - 0 with a bunch of no ones, granted he has an outstanding offensive line and the Patriots are running the ball. Flacco is not without some responsibility here.

 

If you pay your quarterback 20 million per year, shouldn't he have skills to be able to pick up a team and carry it on his back?

 

The reason the Raven's have struggled throwing is that they went from having, (in this opinion), the most complimentary group of wide receivers in the NFL to a bunch of old, slow, stone handed signing mistakes.  Injuries took Pitta and Jones, but the key to the group was the guy under contract they would not retain.  The guy Joe Flacco lobbied for. The guy that was instrumental in the Championship. The Raven Front Office rewarded Joe and his favorite receiver by exiling him to San Francisco, where he picked right up moving the chains. 

 

My position has not changed, stated Before this season started. Called out loudly so that all would eventually recognize it as the Truth.  This team was undermined by the Front Office. It could not have done more damage with intentional sabotage.  The G.M. has acknowledged that he did it and that he did intentionally and that he doesn't believe it was a mistake.  If he can't see it as error, what will prevent him from erring similarly again? Age catches up with everyone. In this case, it's time for a change.

[edthehead]

really there is no excuse for our team debacle ,, flacco played a terrible game but I am not throwing him under the bus ,, I am throwing our coaching staff under the bus,,,plan,, plan and work your plan but most important ADJUST,,, seems like every year we loose to teams we suppose to beat, that is what ticks me off....... 

[Militant X 1]

Superbowl hangover? no!

 

Piss poor gameplay?  YES!!

 

~Mili

[Guest Im An Ozzie Newsome Guy]

Tom Brady is 4 - 0 with a bunch of no ones, granted he has an outstanding offensive line and the Patriots are running the ball. Flacco is not without some responsibility here.

 

That is the reason why New England is having success. It's as simple as that. The game of football is won-and-lost in the trenches. Those 5 core guys can make the difference on offense, even if a team's skill position players are less-than-stellar and their quarterback is just average.

 

Tom Brady still hasn't really connected that well with his new wide receivers. But, having all the time in the world definitely helps him find the most-open target, if nothing else.

 

Trust me: Let's say the Ravens (somehow) had Peyton Manning or Brady. With how terrible this offensive line has been playing, Manning's/Brady's numbers would even be worse than Flacco's. Why? I can't see either of those 2 rolling-out out of the pocket, trying to buy more time, unlike what Joe Flacco has sometimes done, let alone get-up after taking all those hits (after throwing a pass or getting sacked).

[Poes Crows]

That is the reason why New England is having success. It's as simple as that. The game of football is won-and-lost in the trenches. Those 5 core guys can make the difference on offense, even if a team's skill position players are less-than-stellar and their quarterback is just average.

 

Tom Brady still hasn't really connected that well with his new wide receivers. But, having all the time in the world definitely helps him find the most-open target, if nothing else

Won't dispute the importance of a solid offensive line.  The real issue is how ours has fallen apart with only a change at center? What's changed? Center and Offensive Line Coach....that's the first place to look.

 

Only 9 rushing attempts could be attributable to Ray Rice playing before he was truly ready, but the Raven's have been in a Rushing Yards Regression for some time now.

 

But the receiving corps is almost as ineffective. Flacco truly appears lost and there's a reason for that. He was undermined.

[reediddy]

Won't dispute the importance of a solid offensive line.  The real issue is how ours has fallen apart with only a change at center? What's changed? Center and Offensive Line Coach....that's the first place to look.

 

Only 9 rushing attempts could be attributable to Ray Rice playing before he was truly ready, but the Raven's have been in a Rushing Yards Regression for some time now.

 

But the receiving corps is almost as ineffective. Flacco truly appears lost and there's a reason for that. He was undermined.

 

Coaches should understand that run plays, while not always pretty, eventually start taking a toll on the defense. These plays also keep the OL engaged and start developing a rhythm; abandoning the run just because it isn't whoppingly successful isn't the way to go in my opinion. The OC should have continued to grind and hope that some runs break out, if for no other reason than to make our PA pass believable

[flynismo]

Omg...people wanting us to move on from Ozzie?? If you''re not trolling, then you must have bumped your head very hard and need to seek medical attention immediately

[Ravenseconbeast]

yup give ozzie a top 5 pick & and he'll gurantee you a probowler.   no other GM had to deal with so many late round picks and pull out a player like ozzie has..

[izvoodoo]

Omg...people wanting us to move on from Ozzie?? If you''re not trolling, then you must have bumped your head very hard and need to seek medical attention immediately

We're pretty sure he's a 49ers troll.