Da' Rick Rodgers waived by Colts

[Sunday QB]

Could this be a great pickup? mariuchi and Irvin thought so.

[gabefergy]

He's already been waived by two teams. I don't think so.

[Sunday QB]

What's been his issue or issue's?

[T3hRaven]

What's been his issue or issue's?

 

Drugs I believe.  There's obviously more to it, but I've had a hard time getting anything, even just rumors.  I heard his coaches really blasted him coming out of college.

[gabefergy]

He's a major knucklehead for one ( like Titus Young status), and he probably just isn't that good because if he was two teams wouldn't give up on him this fast.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Like i said before....he has no motivation to learn @ nfl level. It was reported that he was snoozing in class and hasnt listened to coaches @ Buffalo Bills.

Im guessing Colts gave him a chance to see if he woke up. Guess he didnt.

He is a waste of time imo. Best we just concentrate onto our next game and build the small pieces that we have @ ravens roster.

[Sunday QB]

He's a major knucklehead for one ( like Titus Young status), and he probably just isn't that good because if he was two teams wouldn't give up on him this fast.

 

I just remember seeing him with Michael Irvin on one of the shows on the NFL network, he looked pretty good then. But if he went undrafted and two teams have already gave him a shot and cut him we don't need to bother with him. thanks.

[CalvinSmoke]

dang, a lot of talent going to waste right there.

[Brandon22]

bring him in for a tryout along with DeWayne Cherrington as insurance just in case Terrence Cody be's out longer than we expected

[rmw10]

Yeah the guy has all of the talent in the world, but no brain to go with it.  He couldn't learn the playbook with Bills, and as it's already been stated, would not listen to the coaches' criticism.  I'd take a shot on the PS if we really felt that we could get through to him, but I'm not even sure it's worth the trouble.  He has some serious growing up to do.

[JO_75]

Like i said before....he has no motivation to learn @ nfl level. It was reported that he was snoozing in class and hasnt listened to coaches @ Buffalo Bills.

Im guessing Colts gave him a chance to see if he woke up. Guess he didnt.

He is a waste of time imo. Best we just concentrate onto our next game and build the small pieces that we have @ ravens roster.

 

Well there goes signing him to learn anything about the Bills offense before Sunday. 

[Inqui]

Like I said when people were getting mad about the Bills picking him up: if the BENGALS passed on him for being a head case, that should be a pretty serious flag right there.

[Sizzlebshu]

He's a major knucklehead for one ( like Titus Young status), and he probably just isn't that good because if he was two teams wouldn't give up on him this fast.

Stop he isn't nearly as bad as Titus Young. 

 

Other than one staredown after a TD, he was relatively quiet

 

If the worst he got was he didn't pay attention in class and didn't immediately pick up on what the coaches told him then I think it'd be worth a flyer to see what he's got as those are really locker room issues. 

[gabefergy]

Stop he isn't nearly as bad as Titus Young. 

 

Other than one staredown after a TD, he was relatively quiet

 

If the worst he got was he didn't pay attention in class and didn't immediately pick up on what the coaches told him then I think it'd be worth a flyer to see what he's got as those are really locker room issues. 

So that means he isnt nearly as talented as Titus Young, because at least he stuck around on a team for 2 years. Either way he isn't anything that the Ravens need.

[Sizzlebshu]

So that means he isnt nearly as talented as Titus Young, because at least he stuck around on a team for 2 years. Either way he isn't anything that the Ravens need.

Well first of all the above logic is faulty since the level of investment in Young vs the level of investment in Rogers is completely different. That notwithstanding though its not wrong to say that we could use another body at WR. Stokely isn't a starter in this league. Marlon Brown has an injury history. Deonte Thompson still has foot problems and we already cut Doss because he couldn't contribute as a receiver. We could easily cut or get rid of him if it doesnt work out. 

[Puntit]

Well first of all the above logic is faulty since the level of investment in Young vs the level of investment in Rogers is completely different. That notwithstanding though its not wrong to say that we could use another body at WR. Stokely isn't a starter in this league. Marlon Brown has an injury history. Deonte Thompson still has foot problems and we already cut Doss because he couldn't contribute as a receiver. We could easily cut or get rid of him if it doesnt work out. 

We have Doss back and he seems to have his head on more straight now, so if we needed to, I'd use him long before Id sign a guy who washed out of two teams in like six weeks. Unproven "bodies" at WR aren't hard to come by -- some would argue that we are too deep in that category as is.  I think there is already plenty of untapped talent on the team -- we just have to get everyone on the same page. Signing a guy who thinks he's above the classroom stuff every rookie goes through is exactly the opposite of what we need more of. This isn't the answer to our problems at receiver. The guys already on the team are.

[Sizzlebshu]

We have Doss back and he seems to have his head on more straight now, so if we needed to, I'd use him long before Id sign a guy who washed out of two teams in like six weeks. Unproven "bodies" at WR aren't hard to come by -- some would argue that we are too deep in that category as is.  I think there is already plenty of untapped talent on the team -- we just have to get everyone on the same page. Signing a guy who thinks he's above the classroom stuff every rookie goes through is exactly the opposite of what we need more of. This isn't the answer to our problems at receiver. The guys already on the team are.

We resigned Doss to be a S/T returner. We cut him because he could not be a receiver. 

 

If you think the answer to the receiver problem is already on our roster, you're delusional. Outside of Torrey Smith (and I may be wrong, but I don't think so), I don't think this franchise has ever drafted and developed a quality receiver. This is mainly due to Ozzie's reluctance to invest more valuable picks into the position. It's not right or wrong to do so, but its the price you pay when you try to play bargain hunter at the position. 

[Puntit]

We resigned Doss to be a S/T returner. We cut him because he could not be a receiver. 

 

If you think the answer to the receiver problem is already on our roster, you're delusional. Outside of Torrey Smith (and I may be wrong, but I don't think so), I don't think this franchise has ever drafted and developed a quality receiver. This is mainly due to Ozzie's reluctance to invest more valuable picks into the position. It's not right or wrong to do so, but its the price you pay when you try to play bargain hunter at the position. 

I think once the TEs start catching and the running game starts working the WRs are going to be more than adequate.

 

As for Ozzie's reluctance to draft WRs high in the draft, given his history with early round WRs such as Taylor and Clayton, I think he's come to the conclusion that hes better off using his high picks on other positions. Hard to disagree with him -- he's done fairly well with home growing talent at virtually every other position. I don't think its about bargain hunting, its more that you don't pay market value for diamonds when you know you are clueless in valuing diamonds.

[gabefergy]

We resigned Doss to be a S/T returner. We cut him because he could not be a receiver.

If you think theanswer to the receiver problem is already on our roster, you're delusional. Outside of Torrey Smith (and I may be wrong, but I don't think so), I don't think this franchise has ever drafted and developed a quality receiver. This is mainly due to Ozzie's reluctance to invest more valuable picks into the position. It's not right or wrong to do so, but its the price you pay when you try to play bargain hunter at the position.

You're delusional if you think the Ravens would have even an ounce if interest in a headache like Rogers. Falling asleep in meetings, bad attitude, uncoachable, a history of drug abuse...he does not have a future in the NFL. The Ravens aren't going to make any more moves to bolster the WR corps until next years draft.

[SeaHawk]

I loved Rodgers coming out of college, because his potential is off the charts. I, however, do not think it would be wise at this juncture to bring him in, seeing how we already are having off the field trouble with the position with Jacoby Jones just recently being involved in a strip club fight. We already have a headache at the position... for the good of the team, we do not need another. He's not ready to produce this year anyway, so it wouldn't be feasible to bring him in just to develop him when we have our own homegrown receivers we need to develop first, who have better attitudes.

[SeaHawk]

You're delusional if you think the Ravens would have even an ounce if interest in a headache like Rogers. Falling asleep in meetings, bad attitude, uncoachable, a history of drug abuse...he does not have a future in the NFL. The Ravens aren't going to make any more moves to bolster the WR corps until next years draft.

 

Completely agreed. If he could somehow change his attitude, he'd be a force. But I just don't see that happening. Much like the Rolando McClain incident.

[Sizzlebshu]

You're delusional if you think the Ravens would have even an ounce if interest in a headache like Rogers. Falling asleep in meetings, bad attitude, uncoachable, a history of drug abuse...he does not have a future in the NFL. The Ravens aren't going to make any more moves to bolster the WR corps until next years draft.

The only part of your statement I agree with
 
The drug abuse: He already proved he got his stuff together with that. In addition, Aldon Smith (abuse of a legal drug), Von Miller (who really should be out of the league for bribing an official. Honestly this just proves that sports promotes drug use. Penalties instead of bans for multiple offenders really?) 
 
Should he be falling asleep in meetings? Obv not, but like I said there are way worse in here and as a body I can live with it.

[gabefergy]

The only part of your statement I agree with

The drug abuse: He already proved he got his stuff together with that. In addition, Aldon Smith (abuse of a legal drug), Von Miller (who really should be out of the league for bribing an official. Honestly this just proves that sports promotes drug use. Penalties instead of bans for multiple offenders really?)

Should he be falling asleep in meetings? Obv not, but like I said there are way worse in here and as a body I can live with it.

Miller and Smith are two of the best players in the NFL. That doesn't defend their actions, but it gives them much more leeway. Rogers is a nobody. He isn't worth the trouble plain and simple. Everybidy overrated his talent to begin with and now every team has passef on him multiple times proving he just isn't worth the effort.

[Sizzlebshu]

Miller and Smith are two of the best players in the NFL. That doesn't defend their actions, but it gives them much more leeway. Rogers is a nobody. He isn't worth the trouble plain and simple. Everybidy overrated his talent to begin with and now every team has passef on him multiple times proving he just isn't worth the effort.

This is kind of the point. Miller had drug problems dating back to his college days, still has draft problems, and bribed an official (which honestly should be a ban from the nfl) and still has a future in this league. <---- There is seriously something wrong here

 

I'm not saying Rogers is gonna come in here and contribute anything. Hell he may even be cut within a few weeks, but in our case the devil we don't know is certainly better than the devil we do (cause Doss, thompson, etc... have not contributed anything). Its a very low risk with a comparatively (to the risk) high reward investment. 

 

Also check your pm's

[ravensdan]

His talent obviously is not enough to outweigh his problems. If he had the talent teams would take more of a risk on him. He's already washed out his two atempts to prove him self. A clear case where nfl teams never ranked him as highly as some fans did.

[Puntit]

... Its a very low risk with a comparatively (to the risk) high reward investment. ...

Its actually a very high risk. A few bad apples really do spoil the barrel.  If one rookie seems to be getting away with sleeping through meetings and phoning it in, suddenly others will say -- gee, he's getting paid the same as me for half the effort, so why should I bust my hump? There are reasons people make a big deal about "locker room cancers" and why Tandon Doss is now finally a productive player and freely admits he wasn't really trying before because he didn't think he could get cut. The tone you set matters.

 

At any rate the Colts put Rodgers onto their practice squad, so its more an issue of him being not NFL ready than being totally a lost cause (at this point).

[Sizzlebshu]

Its actually a very high risk. A few bad apples really do spoil the barrel.  If one rookie seems to be getting away with sleeping through meetings and phoning it in, suddenly others will say -- gee, he's getting paid the same as me for half the effort, so why should I bust my hump? There are reasons people make a big deal about "locker room cancers" and why Tandon Doss is now finally a productive player and freely admits he wasn't really trying before because he didn't think he could get cut. The tone you set matters.

 

At any rate the Colts put Rodgers onto their practice squad, so its more an issue of him being not NFL ready than being totally a lost cause (at this point).

How is it high risk if you can cut him any time you please? Also he would be getting paid the bare minimum deal given he is a UDFA so your scenario would only apply to a few players on the team. 

 

Tandon Doss isn't productive at all as a receiver. The only reason he is even on this team is because Deonte was hurt and Jacoby went down. 

[Puntit]

How is it high risk if you can cut him any time you please? Also he would be getting paid the bare minimum deal given he is a UDFA so your scenario would only apply to a few players on the team. ...

Being able to cut him isn't the point. The point is if he's there sleeping and not doing the work he, not the team, sets the tone. Suddenly a Marlon Brown thinks that's okay because its being tolerated. And so on. Pretty soon you have a whole room of lazy underachievers.

 

Hard working players with good work ethics impact not just themselves but the team around them. You want a team where people show up early to work out and spend hours studying game tapes. Ray Lewis wasn't a great player just because he was great on the field, he was great because he made his teammates better by walking the walk. You accomplish nothing with a team full of raw talent that's too lazy to harness it, and by tolerating them, you encourage others to follow suit.

[Sizzlebshu]

Being able to cut him isn't the point. The point is if he's there sleeping and not doing the work he, not the team, sets the tone. Suddenly a Marlon Brown thinks that's okay because its being tolerated. And so on. Pretty soon you have a whole room of lazy underachievers.

 

Hard working players with good work ethics impact not just themselves but the team around them. You want a team where people show up early to work out and spend hours studying game tapes. Ray Lewis wasn't a great player just because he was great on the field, he was great because he made his teammates better by walking the walk. You accomplish nothing with a team full of raw talent that's too lazy to harness it, and by tolerating them, you encourage others to follow suit.

Cutting him rectifies this mind set pretty quick by sending the reverse message. 

 

The point is to bring him in as a body since we literally have no one behind Brown and Torrey as they are all either injury prone (Thompson Brown etc...) or are absolutely awful (Doss) 

[Puntit]

Cutting him rectifies this mind set pretty quick by sending the reverse message. 

You can do a lot of damage to the team mindset before you get to that point though. Bad habits are easier to learn than cure. Its a lot easier to never go down this road. There's a reason some teams focus on "character" issues, and it has very little to do with morality.