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can we please put Pernell McPhee back at his original DE position and then have John Simon backup Terrell Suggs on the depth chart instead of always confusing our talent by making them switch sides all the time the reason i suggest this is because listed on our depth chart suggs has only McPhee backing him up we all know Mcphee is better with one hand in the dirt at all times Simon wont get better only on special teams give him a chance on defense next game and let him progress please John Harbaugh

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I thought I saw some plays yesterday where McPhee played inside on the line.  I think we move all those guys around enough that the position they're listed as on the depth chart doesn't mean too much.  I'd love to see what Simon can do, as well, but I don't think we have a problem with our defensive front, at the moment, that needs fixing.

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I thought I saw some plays yesterday where McPhee played inside on the line.  I think we move all those guys around enough that the position they're listed as on the depth chart doesn't mean too much.  I'd love to see what Simon can do, as well, but I don't think we have a problem with our defensive front, at the moment, that needs fixing.

 

Yeah when Cody went down, McPhee and Upshaw both saw quite a bit of time on the line.

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Yeah when Cody went down, McPhee and Upshaw both saw quite a bit of time on the line.

It's a good thing that D-line is so deep because they are hurting.

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It's a good thing that D-line is so deep because they are hurting.

 

It looks like Canty will be back this week and Williams is looking pretty close as well.  It may end up being one more week lacking depth.

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can we please put Pernell McPhee back at his original DE position and then have John Simon backup Terrell Suggs on the depth chart instead of always confusing our talent by making them switch sides all the time the reason i suggest this is because listed on our depth chart suggs has only McPhee backing him up we all know Mcphee is better with one hand in the dirt at all times Simon wont get better only on special teams give him a chance on defense next game and let him progress please John Harbaugh


The D hasn't given up a TD in two weeks but you think the players need to be changed up? It's working.
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McPhee is kind of a tweener who's likely best suited as a 43 LDE at 285 pounds.  Bulking up didn't do it for him last year as he lost his explosiveness (combined with a knee injury not helping) and him slimming down I just don't really buy as a standup OLB. However he is a guy you need to get on the field I believe, he makes plays.  Simon as a rookie has the unenviable situation of playing the most talented position on the roster.  McPhee will continue to get looks at DT and DE/OLB for good reason, he deserves it.

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McPhee is kind of a tweener who's likely best suited as a 43 LDE at 285 pounds.  Bulking up didn't do it for him last year as he lost his explosiveness (combined with a knee injury not helping) and him slimming down I just don't really buy as a standup OLB. However he is a guy you need to get on the field I believe, he makes plays.  Simon as a rookie has the unenviable situation of playing the most talented position on the roster.  McPhee will continue to get looks at DT and DE/OLB for good reason, he deserves it.

Yeah, I've always said that McPhee will probably get signed by a 4-3 team and for good reason.

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The D hasn't given up a TD in two weeks but you think the players need to be changed up? It's working.

 

I saw someone post "if it ain't broke, break it!" the other day. Funny 

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can we please put Pernell McPhee back at his original DE position and then have John Simon backup Terrell Suggs on the depth chart instead of always confusing our talent by making them switch sides all the time the reason i suggest this is because listed on our depth chart suggs has only McPhee backing him up we all know Mcphee is better with one hand in the dirt at all times Simon wont get better only on special teams give him a chance on defense next game and let him progress please John Harbaugh

 

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Honestly, McPhee isn't playing very well .

 

How did you come to this conclusion? I don't think he has gotten many looks this year. The defensive front as a whole was excellent yesterday.

 

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How did you come to this conclusion? I don't think he has gotten many looks this year. The defensive front as a whole was excellent yesterday.

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Because I watched him get washed out of plays...
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Because I watched him get washed out of plays...

 

PFF has McPhee graded as 0.5 from week 2 and 0.3 from week 3 playing about 30% of the snaps on average. I guess you could say that he is playing pretty average, without being a liability.

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My only concern for McPhee are the injuries, he just can't seem to shake them and hasn't been able to build on his success as a rookie.

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Average is not very good...


He's still learning a new position at a lower weight than he's used to. I'll take average right now.
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I think McPhee is going to be used interchangeably.  I agree that he's better as a DE than OLB in a 3-4, but he played along the front three on Sunday.  Why would he even see the field as an OLB when we have Suggs, Doom and Upshaw ahead of him, unless one of them got injured?

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Average is not very good...

 

Average is actually pretty good considering the spot where we drafted him at. He is good coming off the bench and giving the starters rest. I'm ok with that, and I know that he has potential to be a lot more than that in time.

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Basically , my point is he hasn't had a ton of impact since his rookie year. Injuries are a part of it, for sure.
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The D hasn't given up a TD in two weeks but you think the players need to be changed up? It's working.

Agreed. Absolutely should not change a thing other than if forced due to injury. Once they adjusted the roles in the secondary after the Denver game this side of the ball became lights out. Really as good as you can be -- zero touchdowns in two games, a decent number of sacks and a few turnovers. They just shut down a heavilly favored Texans team. Leave them be.

 

Only the offense needs attention right now. Figure out why the offensive line can't create running lanes, and get the TEs to catch better and we will start to look like a contender. I think the personnel is already there, but they have to all get on the same page the way the defense has.

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McPhee is kind of a tweener who's likely best suited as a 43 LDE at 285 pounds.  Bulking up didn't do it for him last year as he lost his explosiveness (combined with a knee injury not helping) and him slimming down I just don't really buy as a standup OLB. However he is a guy you need to get on the field I believe, he makes plays.  Simon as a rookie has the unenviable situation of playing the most talented position on the roster.  McPhee will continue to get looks at DT and DE/OLB for good reason, he deserves it.

I agree all I am saying is that if we had real depth we would not of moved Upshaw and McPhee to the line all I am suggesting is we put McPhee back on the line in his position where he excels at DE and put Simon behind Suggs so they can put Simon in the game more

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I agree all I am saying is that if we had real depth we would not of moved Upshaw and McPhee to the line all I am suggesting is we put McPhee back on the line in his position where he excels at DE and put Simon behind Suggs so they can put Simon in the game more

Thats my point as well though, if you move McPhee back to the line he'll be buried behind Canty, Ngata and Jones.  Im not sure if I were Harbaugh I want McPhee seeing less snaps so Simon can get 3 a game.

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Thats my point as well though, if you move McPhee back to the line he'll be buried behind Canty, Ngata and Jones.  Im not sure if I were Harbaugh I want McPhee seeing less snaps so Simon can get 3 a game.

he wont if we make the switch like most of us keep suggesting to a 4-3 we would force more turnovers and be more dominant than Dallas of all the teams we let the COWBOYZ have a better defense than us

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he wont if we make the switch like most of us keep suggesting to a 4-3 we would force more turnovers and be more dominant than Dallas of all the teams we let the COWBOYZ have a better defense than us

1. You are literally the only pushing a switch to a 4-3.

 

2. Our defense is fine.

 

3. We aren't going to move McPhee back to get Simon reps. That's not how NFL coaches make roster decisions. You put the best players at their best positions, and play them in that role. That being said, McPhee needs to go back to DL, but because he's better suited for it, not because it would get more reps for Simon. 

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I don't know what you guys arguing about but I'm salivating the amount of depth and versatility in our defense.  That's the big reason we haven't given up any TD yet since week 1.  I hope this trend will continue.......

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he wont if we make the switch like most of us keep suggesting to a 4-3 we would force more turnovers and be more dominant than Dallas of all the teams we let the COWBOYZ have a better defense than us

I haven't heard anyone advocate a switch to the 43 since last year.  Secondly we don't have the Will or Sam backers to play the scheme.  Thirdly, just switching to a 43 does not even remotely guarantee more turnovers, thats just a fallacy of all time.

We continue to use the multiple front and alignment defense, as we've been doing since 2002 because its successful.  You don't change schemes in week 3 unless you want a total disaster on your hands.

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he wont if we make the switch like most of us keep suggesting to a 4-3 we would force more turnovers and be more dominant than Dallas of all the teams we let the COWBOYZ have a better defense than us

Why in the world would you want to revamp our defense to a 4-3 when we haven't given up a touchdown in 2 games? Dude you are trying to break something that works to be more like a Dallas team that isn't likely to make the post-season. They should be wanting to be more like us.

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