UPDATE: Trent Richardson traded for then Benched by Colts

[berad]

Besides Joe Thomas, he's their first offensive draftee that turned into a player. Richardson was the only player defenses had to worry about - just listen to our guys last week.

Oh well, new management believes they know best. Time will tell.

[Gordo52]

Luck & Trent will eventually win one together.

Trent is such a beast, I can't believe some people are trying to downplay that. He is going to EXCEL in this colts offense.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

Honestly their current starting running back is not that bad Bobbie Rainey. I think he fits what they are trying to do better 

[SeaHawk]

Honestly their current starting running back is not that bad Bobbie Rainey. I think he fits what they are trying to do better 

 

Better fitting than Richardson?? No way. Unless their offensive scheme is to lose games, then Richardson was their man. The guy could catch, getting 51 passes last season. The dude could run, getting almost a thousand yards and 11 TD's. He also could pass block with the best of them.

 

What exactly does Rainey do better than Richardson?

[BrownsFan]

Apparently, the Browns also demoted Little and of course are starting their 3rd string QB over Jason Campbell this weekend.

 

The Greg Little news is about the only great news that came out of Cleveland yesterday.  That move was WELL overdue and honestly as much as I hate to say it I wish he'd just get busted for some drugs or something so he could be suspended.  He has tremendous potential upside but he absolutely cannot catch a football.

 

As far as my two cents on this whole Trent Richardson thing I'm about 5-7% impressed by the trade and the rest is just confusion and frustration:

 

 

--  This trade being made now means that they've entertained the idea of offloading him for some time and were just waiting for the right situation; the Colts didn't just all of a sudden call Cleveland and Banner/Haslem said "Yeah sure why not!"  They obviously reached out to Indianapolis seeing their glaring need to fill a hole.

 

--  I'll say it time and time again but I think it's absolutely messed up when a player finds out this kind of a news from a radio or tv station and not directly from the team.  There really is no excuse for that at all and shame on Cleveland for allowing that to happen to someone who has really tried to do everything in his power to be the next best RB for Cleveland.

 

--  The slight impression on my part is for them making this trade.  It takes a lot to do something like this and stand up telling fans that this is not the direction we want to go.  I disagree with their stupid lame comments about Trent not "fitting their offense" because how in the hell would they know that when they never USED him in their offense?  When you pass 50-60 times a game then OF COURSE he won't fit in.  I'd rather they just be honest and say he's not our guy and we don't want him.  Don't make up lame excuses.

 

--  Brian Hoyer:  Ok, maybe he does well.  Who knows?  But at the same time.. another lie by our coaching staff and front office.  If he gives you a better chance to win over Campbell then why is he your 3rd stringer?  You absolutely never see this happen with a team unless they're 1-10 or 0 for the world; yet we're 0-2 and "not giving up on the season."  Yet.. we start the 3rd stringer over the backup.  Just lies, be honest and just say you're giving up on the season and seeing what Hoyer can do.  I'd rather hear that.

 

--  Weeden?  Gone.  I feel bad for the guy, say what you want about his 29 year old age but the guy has never had a chance.  He was sacked ELEVEN times in the first two games this year.  You couldn't put any QB behind our O-Line and have them succeed.  You know that Weeden is gone, he knows he's gone so just do it now and save us the stupid drama.

 

 

Decisions like this that were made are extremely difficult to justify to the fans and usually end up hurting you more than helping you.  All I know is that I heard Bill Polian say this yesterday and he's 100% correct; Cleveland had better not miss on these two picks next year.  They absolutely have to draft two outstanding players with those two picks or if you trade one you had better get your franchise QB (or enter any other position).

[beanfigger]

I'm very surprised at the move, but not at the price. Darrelle Revis was traded for a single mid-1st rounder. Frankly, I'm surprised that any RB outside of Adrian Peterson was able to net a 1st round selection. Sadly, this move can't be judged until next year. I do wonder what kind of shape Willis McGahee is in and how much impact he'll have if he passes his physical.

 

Revis was traded for the 13th pick this year, and a conditional pick next year.  It will be a 4th if he's no longer on the Bucs, but a 3rd if he's still on the team by the third day of the 2014 season.  I do agree that's a big price for a team to pay for a RB, but considering he went #3 just last year, it's still a big net loss for Cleveland.

[BMORElegacy]

The Greg Little news is about the only great news that came out of Cleveland yesterday.  That move was WELL overdue and honestly as much as I hate to say it I wish he'd just get busted for some drugs or something so he could be suspended.  He has tremendous potential upside but he absolutely cannot catch a football.

 

As far as my two cents on this whole Trent Richardson thing I'm about 5-7% impressed by the trade and the rest is just confusion and frustration:

 

 

--  This trade being made now means that they've entertained the idea of offloading him for some time and were just waiting for the right situation; the Colts didn't just all of a sudden call Cleveland and Banner/Haslem said "Yeah sure why not!"  They obviously reached out to Indianapolis seeing their glaring need to fill a hole.

 

--  I'll say it time and time again but I think it's absolutely messed up when a player finds out this kind of a news from a radio or tv station and not directly from the team.  There really is no excuse for that at all and shame on Cleveland for allowing that to happen to someone who has really tried to do everything in his power to be the next best RB for Cleveland.

 

--  The slight impression on my part is for them making this trade.  It takes a lot to do something like this and stand up telling fans that this is not the direction we want to go.  I disagree with their stupid lame comments about Trent not "fitting their offense" because how in the hell would they know that when they never USED him in their offense?  When you pass 50-60 times a game then OF COURSE he won't fit in.  I'd rather they just be honest and say he's not our guy and we don't want him.  Don't make up lame excuses.

 

--  Brian Hoyer:  Ok, maybe he does well.  Who knows?  But at the same time.. another lie by our coaching staff and front office.  If he gives you a better chance to win over Campbell then why is he your 3rd stringer?  You absolutely never see this happen with a team unless they're 1-10 or 0 for the world; yet we're 0-2 and "not giving up on the season."  Yet.. we start the 3rd stringer over the backup.  Just lies, be honest and just say you're giving up on the season and seeing what Hoyer can do.  I'd rather hear that.

 

--  Weeden?  Gone.  I feel bad for the guy, say what you want about his 29 year old age but the guy has never had a chance.  He was sacked ELEVEN times in the first two games this year.  You couldn't put any QB behind our O-Line and have them succeed.  You know that Weeden is gone, he knows he's gone so just do it now and save us the stupid drama.

 

 

Decisions like this that were made are extremely difficult to justify to the fans and usually end up hurting you more than helping you.  All I know is that I heard Bill Polian say this yesterday and he's 100% correct; Cleveland had better not miss on these two picks next year.  They absolutely have to draft two outstanding players with those two picks or if you trade one you had better get your franchise QB (or enter any other position).

I'm so sorry. I have the utmost respect for you and your fanbase. It takes real dedication to stand by an organization that does this to you year after year after year. 

[BrownsFan]

I'm so sorry. I have the utmost respect for you and your fanbase. It takes real dedication to stand by an organization that does this to you year after year after year. 

 

Hah, so true.  I'm not worried about it; I love the Browns and will root for them forever and ever and in a way maybe they're making the right move.  It's also in part because I have accepted they would suck this year and next well before the season began; this has just accelerated it.

[ravensdfan]

The Greg Little news is about the only great news that came out of Cleveland yesterday.  That move was WELL overdue and honestly as much as I hate to say it I wish he'd just get busted for some drugs or something so he could be suspended.  He has tremendous potential upside but he absolutely cannot catch a football.

 

As far as my two cents on this whole Trent Richardson thing I'm about 5-7% impressed by the trade and the rest is just confusion and frustration:

 

 

--  This trade being made now means that they've entertained the idea of offloading him for some time and were just waiting for the right situation; the Colts didn't just all of a sudden call Cleveland and Banner/Haslem said "Yeah sure why not!"  They obviously reached out to Indianapolis seeing their glaring need to fill a hole.

 

--  I'll say it time and time again but I think it's absolutely messed up when a player finds out this kind of a news from a radio or tv station and not directly from the team.  There really is no excuse for that at all and shame on Cleveland for allowing that to happen to someone who has really tried to do everything in his power to be the next best RB for Cleveland.

 

--  The slight impression on my part is for them making this trade.  It takes a lot to do something like this and stand up telling fans that this is not the direction we want to go.  I disagree with their stupid lame comments about Trent not "fitting their offense" because how in the hell would they know that when they never USED him in their offense?  When you pass 50-60 times a game then OF COURSE he won't fit in.  I'd rather they just be honest and say he's not our guy and we don't want him.  Don't make up lame excuses.

 

--  Brian Hoyer:  Ok, maybe he does well.  Who knows?  But at the same time.. another lie by our coaching staff and front office.  If he gives you a better chance to win over Campbell then why is he your 3rd stringer?  You absolutely never see this happen with a team unless they're 1-10 or 0 for the world; yet we're 0-2 and "not giving up on the season."  Yet.. we start the 3rd stringer over the backup.  Just lies, be honest and just say you're giving up on the season and seeing what Hoyer can do.  I'd rather hear that.

 

--  Weeden?  Gone.  I feel bad for the guy, say what you want about his 29 year old age but the guy has never had a chance.  He was sacked ELEVEN times in the first two games this year.  You couldn't put any QB behind our O-Line and have them succeed.  You know that Weeden is gone, he knows he's gone so just do it now and save us the stupid drama.

 

 

Decisions like this that were made are extremely difficult to justify to the fans and usually end up hurting you more than helping you.  All I know is that I heard Bill Polian say this yesterday and he's 100% correct; Cleveland had better not miss on these two picks next year.  They absolutely have to draft two outstanding players with those two picks or if you trade one you had better get your franchise QB (or enter any other position).

 

Absolutely agree with your points here. It would be one thing if it was even halfway through and the Browns were 0-8. Then one can kind of see the point.

 

I feel for you. It certainly feels like they're giving up on this season to me and about 99% of the rest of the fans of the NFL. But I bet they still expect all you guys to show up for the home games.

 

I didn't understand the Weedon pick from the start to be honest and while I understand you're points about your OL I just didn't think Weedon would be successful there even with a good OL. Only my opinion though.

[BrownsFan]

Absolutely agree with your points here. It would be one thing if it was even halfway through and the Browns were 0-8. Then one can kind of see the point.

 

I feel for you. It certainly feels like they're giving up on this season to me and about 99% of the rest of the fans of the NFL. But I bet they still expect all you guys to show up for the home games.

 

I didn't understand the Weedon pick from the start to be honest and while I understand you're points about your OL I just didn't think Weedon would be successful there even with a good OL. Only my opinion though.

 

IMO Weeden has a great arm but he tends to get too amped up at times.  At this point though it's moot whether he will be a good fit or not because I can't see any scenario now at this point where he is still with the team after this season; the FO has basically come out and said we don't like the previous regime's picks and that's that.  If they don't like TR how in the world could they justify liking BW?

[Puntit]

IMO Weeden has a great arm but he tends to get too amped up at times.  At this point though it's moot whether he will be a good fit or not because I can't see any scenario now at this point where he is still with the team after this season; the FO has basically come out and said we don't like the previous regime's picks and that's that.  If they don't like TR how in the world could they justify liking BW?

Seems apparent to me that the injury to Weeden is worse than suggested and will cause him to miss multiple starts, and the Browns were not optimistic about winning behind Campbell or Hoyer, so they decided to just plan for next year. Unclear why they didn't shop Richardson more broadly, as they probably could have come away with multiple picks -- there are teams out there known for making more foolish deals than Indy.

 

I have to wonder though why you would ever demote Little and try to sign McGahee if your unspoken goal was to totally tank and end up with a high set of draft picks. Seems to me that Cleveland is even finding a way to screw up screwing up. I feel bad for you diehard Browns fans.

 

And what's the deal with stockpiling all the discarded Ravens -- Cousins, Kruger, Rainey, Cundiff, now McGahee? While I'm glad those guys have jobs, you are never going to compete with the current Ravens if you keep fielding a team of guys we already put mileage on or passed over.

[PuRock]

Seems apparent to me that the injury to Weeden is worse than suggested and will cause him to miss multiple starts, and the Browns were not optimistic about winning behind Campbell or Hoyer, so they decided to just plan for next year. Unclear why they didn't shop Richardson more broadly, as they probably could have come away with multiple picks -- there are teams out there known for making more foolish deals than Indy.

 

I have to wonder though why you would ever demote Little and try to sign McGahee if your unspoken goal was to totally tank and end up with a high set of draft picks. Seems to me that Cleveland is even finding a way to screw up screwing up. I feel bad for you diehard Browns fans.

 

And what's the deal with stockpiling all the discarded Ravens -- Cousins, Kruger, Rainey, Cundiff, now McGahee? While I'm glad those guys have jobs, you are never going to compete with the current Ravens if you keep fielding a team of guys we already put mileage on or passed over.

 

I think they weren't optimistic about Brandon Weeden either, injury or not.  This only helps them to shelve him and get their guy.  

[BloodRaven]

IMO Weeden has a great arm but he tends to get too amped up at times.  At this point though it's moot whether he will be a good fit or not because I can't see any scenario now at this point where he is still with the team after this season; the FO has basically come out and said we don't like the previous regime's picks and that's that.  If they don't like TR how in the world could they justify liking BW?

 

"And friends just can't be found, like a bridge over troubled water..."

[redravenfan]

how hilarious would it be for Hoyer to play out of his mind and take the browns to the playoffs . I know impossible but that would be fun to watch .

[Puntit]

If they are getting McGahee anyway, why not try to recreate that Denver magic and sign Tebow. Worst case scenario, he's as bad a QB as advertizes, and lands them the #1 pick in the draft. Best case scenario, he gives people a reason to tune in and watch the browns this year. Just a thought.

[Puntit]

how hilarious would it be for Hoyer to play out of his mind and take the browns to the playoffs . I know impossible but that would be fun to watch .

Actually what would be hilarious will be when he plays adequately, gets them not enough wins to go anywhere but just enough wins to miss out on whoever they are eyeing in next years draft, and they end up without an impact player to replace Richardson or a QB better than Weeden. That is the m.o. of the browns I know. Turn a million dollar investment in real estate into $50 in CASH money.

[FerrariFan87]

I feel sorry for Browns fans, but they are absolutely loaded with high draft picks next year...

[runamuk]

I feel sorry for browns fans as well. My gut says even if they do get the number one pick they will go after the wrong qb and find themselves in the same boat.

[Puntit]

I feel sorry for Browns fans, but they are absolutely loaded with high draft picks next year...

High draft picks are only beneficial if you know what to do with them. There are gems and busts at every round, and the historically bad teams always seem to gravitate toward the wrong ones. Maybe the new staff will do better.

[beanfigger]

Everyone keeps saying that the Browns are in good position after this trade because of all their draft picks. Aren't they forgetting that they made two first round selections just last year? Who's to say the wont be back here trying to blow it all up again in less than two seasons?

[flaccopoe]

Wow... they didn't even call Richardson first. Richardson said the first he heard of it was listening to the radio.

 

Typical Browns classiness...

[flaccopoe]

Everyone keeps saying that the Browns are in good position after this trade because of all their draft picks. Aren't they forgetting that they made two first round selections just last year? Who's to say the wont be back here trying to blow it all up again in less than two seasons?

 

Exactly!  To get their mid-teens~low 20s pick, they had to trade last year's #3 pick!  Because pick 16-22>pick 3, apparently.

[FerrariFan87]

Typical Browns classiness...

Well, their owner is about to go to prison, so...

[AsianRice]

At least the Steelers and Bengals know they'll have 2 free games coming up...

[Puntit]

Exactly!  To get their mid-teens~low 20s pick, they had to trade last year's #3 pick!  Because pick 16-22>pick 3, apparently.

Nah, they just realized (correctly) that without a good QB having a marquis RB is pointless. So they are cashing in their RB for another shot at drafting a QB who is NFL ready and not already 35 years old. Problem is, while that all sounds good on paper, this isn't really going to be a year where there's a Andrew Luck/RG3 whos an obvious NFL-ready upgrade from the series of back-ups they have started the last few years. Next year's version of Geno Smith frankly won't be the kind of guy you can build around, and they would be better off keeping Richardson.

 

If they are serious about rebuilding, they probably should swap both their first rounds in for multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks. This isn't a team that is one or two players away from contending (unless those players are Manning and Megatron equiivalents). From what I can see they badly need a QB, offensive linemen, a #2 receiver, and now RB. They could stand a few defensive and special teams upgrades too, but those aren't the obvious sore spots.

 

If they are smart, they will capitalize on some team that badly wants Clowney, and cash in on their highest first rounder in a big way. But knowing the browns, they will draft Clowney for themselves, go with Hoyer or another bargain basement QB, and end up trading Clowney for a lower #1 in a future year. And the cycle of abuse for Browns fans will continue.

[FerrariFan87]

If I were a Browns season ticket holder, I'd demand a refund!

[redrum52]

With this trade, is anyone else interested in seeing how Rainey performs? I want to see him do well for the fact I thought he could be a big playmaker, but part of me wants to be wrong so I don't feel like we gave away someone special. Not for nothing, I'm still mad about giving away Antwan Barnes, who I think could still be producing on this team(he wasn't a cap casualty like others).

[cursona pirate]

[FerrariFan87]

^ That is really pathetic!

[redrum52]

I like the moves they're making. The have no chance of success so flop while evaluating. The only thing o would be mad at is not trading back last year for more picks instead of selecting Trent. Try to get the number one pick, use the other #1 for another offensive weapon and trade up for a back in the second or 3rd depending on who's coming out. Also, they have CRAZY cap room. Then there is the fact it's hard to get a first rounder back for any player let alone a rb who's had injury problems in his first 2 years. The coaching staff is on point I think. Just time to get players that will suit their scheme.