Is no one scared to death about our secondary?

[Purple_ICE 81]

I'm currently terrified about our secondary, and nobody will be able to make me feel good about them until they play better. Completely and utterly terrified.

Our secondary is not scary...the Denver receiving corps is. Damariyus Thomas, Erik Decker, and Wes Welker are all #1s. Usually teams only have to deal with 1 or 2 big guys...but 3 is just rediculous. Accompanied with a group of talented pass catching RBs and an emerging juggernaut TE Julius Thomas...Denver has the best receiving corps in the league. When you give those weapons to a future HOFer its not even fair haha

 

Secondly our secondary needs time to gel and work more as a team, as a unit. we have new pieces who just played their first game together against a tough foe, so you can not rule them out just yet. They were also extremely gassed due to the fact that our offense was 3&outing practically every series. Peyton pushed the tempo and that will tire even a pro bowl defense.

 

I think its safe to call Jimmy Smith the "B" word because he cant cover much at all and its now his 3rd season. But luckily Webby seems to be his scrappy self making plays out there so hopefully he can be the glue that holds together our secondary.

 

All in all I think our pass rush accompanied with a few young sleepers in our secondary will be enough to hold it together... we dont have the greatest CBs but I feel like in time we could have dangerous safety rotation once they gel a little better. But we are not going to be facing this tough an offense every game thank the lord.

[jimmypowder]

I'm terrified of everyone being terrified over ONE game against a for certain playoff team

[BillyCundiffTheGreat]

I think Cary Williams was the best corner we ever had. He wouldnt have given up 7 tds like Webb did. Ravens D will make Weeden look elite

[beanfigger]

I think Poes Croews has an alter ego. He's posting incognito now.

[GrimCoconut]

I think Cary Williams was the best corner we ever had. He wouldnt have given up 7 tds like Webb did. Ravens D will make Weeden look elite

Amazing words from Billy Cundiff the Great!

[K-Dog]

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[baltimoreravensfan4life]

Peyton Manning, before this game, had a 9-2 record against the Ravens with 3100 passing yards and 25 passing touchdowns to eight interceptions. Peyton Manning has always owned the Ravens. It's not even fair how he can just shred the Ravens like he does. 

So, Manning has always had good numbers against the Ravens. Now, we're going to add a twist. Now, we're going to give him a better running game than he ever had in Denver, two great outside receivers, the best slot receiver in the NFL, and a possible up and coming tight end. At what point do you think the Ravens were going to have success against that? 

Then, you add in the fact that the Ravens were consistently going three and out and it doesn't help, especially not in the high altitudes of Denver. The defense was visibly gassed during the entire game.

The Ravens were in a tough situation going into the game, and if anyone really expected the secondary to light it up, I want to know what's wrong with you.

I also laugh at the people who say Jimmy Smith played a bad game or was a bust after this game. Yeah, what a bust. He only allowed two receptions, one going for a touchdown. One was to Eric Decker on a crossing pattern, but Jimmy quickly chased him down and forced a fumble, which happened to bounce out of bounds. He also contained Demaryius Thomas and held him to no catches. He even handled all the double moves DT threw out there and did not bite. So, to summarize, Smith allowed two receptions, both coming when the defense as a whole began to struggle, and forced a fumble. If you watch the first half, he didn't allow a single reception and played extremely aggressive to shut down what ever player was lined up across from him.

Corey Graham, on the other hand, allows seven receptions and a touchdown. He struggled so badly with Wes Welker that he had to be switched to Demaryius Thomas, and then he allowed another touchdown. His struggles began early, but they weren't helped by the constant three and outs.

Also, for those who want to call Jimmy a bust, consider even Webb struggled at times. He allowed two receptions himself and was lucky to not allow three. If Welker hadn't slipped on that one play, he would have caught the ball and been gone for a touchdown.

Another fact that you all might want to consider is that Jimmy played the third most snaps of any player on the entire defense. Daryl Smith and James Ihedigbo were the ironman play 100% of the snaps. Jimmy came in third at 96% of the defensive snaps. Graham was at 92% of the snaps.

Keep on doubting Jimmy, but he's better than Graham and gives the Ravens a large outside presence that they lack in Webb.

[flynismo]

 

Peyton Manning, before this game, had a 9-2 record against the Ravens with 3100 passing yards and 25 passing touchdowns to eight interceptions. Peyton Manning has always owned the Ravens. It's not even fair how he can just shred the Ravens like he does. 

So, Manning has always had good numbers against the Ravens. Now, we're going to add a twist. Now, we're going to give him a better running game than he ever had in Denver, two great outside receivers, the best slot receiver in the NFL, and a possible up and coming tight end. At what point do you think the Ravens were going to have success against that? 

Then, you add in the fact that the Ravens were consistently going three and out and it doesn't help, especially not in the high altitudes of Denver. The defense was visibly gassed during the entire game.

The Ravens were in a tough situation going into the game, and if anyone really expected the secondary to light it up, I want to know what's wrong with you.

I also laugh at the people who say Jimmy Smith played a bad game or was a bust after this game. Yeah, what a bust. He only allowed two receptions, one going for a touchdown. One was to Eric Decker on a crossing pattern, but Jimmy quickly chased him down and forced a fumble, which happened to bounce out of bounds. He also contained Demaryius Thomas and held him to no catches. He even handled all the double moves DT threw out there and did not bite. So, to summarize, Smith allowed two receptions, both coming when the defense as a whole began to struggle, and forced a fumble. If you watch the first half, he didn't allow a single reception and played extremely aggressive to shut down what ever player was lined up across from him.

Corey Graham, on the other hand, allows seven receptions and a touchdown. He struggled so badly with Wes Welker that he had to be switched to Demaryius Thomas, and then he allowed another touchdown. His struggles began early, but they weren't helped by the constant three and outs.

Also, for those who want to call Jimmy a bust, consider even Webb struggled at times. He allowed two receptions himself and was lucky to not allow three. If Welker hadn't slipped on that one play, he would have caught the ball and been gone for a touchdown.

Another fact that you all might want to consider is that Jimmy played the third most snaps of any player on the entire defense. Daryl Smith and James Ihedigbo were the ironman play 100% of the snaps. Jimmy came in third at 96% of the defensive snaps. Graham was at 92% of the snaps.

Keep on doubting Jimmy, but he's better than Graham and gives the Ravens a large outside presence that they lack in Webb.

 

 

These people just dont know what they are talking about when it comes to Jimmy. Let them hate, it really doesn't effect anything.

[reediddy]

I think Cary Williams was the best corner we ever had. He wouldnt have given up 7 tds like Webb did. Ravens D will make Weeden look elite

 

your username refers to Billy Cundiff as a "great"

 

[JEEPercreepermd]

One loss...to an excellent team...featuring the best WR corps in football AND one of the top 3 QB's OF ALL TIME..and the world is going to end. Typical Ravens fans. We come across as a bunch of jerks..just sayin.


Take away the td after the blocked punt and The TD after the incomplete 3rd down pass, you have an entirely different game. Our secondary was GASSED...chill

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Some 300 of Petyons yards came on 7 passes. The other 150 came on some 60 passes.

 

Those 7 passes are communication breakdowns, missed tackles, and missed assignments due to not knowing each other yet, not knowing the defense well enough yet, and not being in game shape yet.

 

All 3 will continue to improve. Take away those 7 plays and we dominate... just 7 plays. Or even take away 3-4 of those 7 plays and we dominate.

 

Give a QB like Manning and brand new defense that's never played together and OF COURSE he will dissect it. Anyone who expect our defense to be on point week 1 was overly optimistic. Give them 4-5 more weeks and we'll know what we really have. We were good early bc we're just that talented. But when you start to get tired you have to be mentally sharp and play flawlessly with technique and positioning. That only comes with time and familiarity.

 

I'm not saying we absolutely pull it together, bc who knows. But im saying what we saw in the 1st half is most likely a more accurate representation of what our team is - not the 2nd half. And that's a team that can compete with anyone in the league.

[PeRK82]

Teams better be Scared of our Secondary.

 

Especially since we have Jimmy Smith.

 

They better think twice about throwing his way.

 

If we didnt have J.Smith, then i would seriously be worried.

 

 

Only person playing on our Secondary that makes me nervous and i think he gives up plays Every Single time if he is thrown to ,is Webb.

 

Dude just sucks, he is a bum. But i think J.Smith will pick up the slack for Webbs short comings.

[Bltravens]

Teams better be Scared of our Secondary.
 
Especially since we have Jimmy Smith.
 
They better think twice about throwing his way.
 
If we didnt have J.Smith, then i would seriously be worried.
 
 
Only person playing on our Secondary that makes me nervous and i think he gives up plays Every Single time if he is thrown to ,is Webb.
 
Dude just sucks, he is a bum. But i think J.Smith will pick up the slack for Webbs short comings.

Nice...

[ravenswarm52]

ravens fans need to calm down.First thing,it was GAME 1! theirs 15 more to play.Second thing,our offense after oher and jacoby got hurt couldnt keep our D off the field long enough to catch their breathand when your playing manning and his hurry up offense you need to get a breather otherwise you get tired and between huff and ihedigbo you could tell those missed tackles were exhaustion related,they didnt even try they were so freakin tired.quick stat-half of mannings 450 yds were after the catch,that shows you the exhaustion level.Third thing,ihedigbo shouldnt be starting,you draft a guy first round,let him play! hes gotta learn sometime,now if we play peyton again in the playoffs and hes our starting safety he hasnt really seen peyton at his best in live in game on the field action.that game was a perfect storm of things going wrong and it was on the road(i still believe it was a money thing for denver and elway because they had a concert at m&t bank stadium and it looked like they were shooting fireworks in the harbor so im sure their were just as many people downtown and at the stadium as their would have been if they had played that game here,B.S. no way we shoulda been in denver,just another show of disrespect to baltimore,their expecting denver to make the superbowl this year and manning is the face of the nfl again and their gm is a hall fame QB trying to prove his signing of manning was the right move,all this leads me to believe that we were screwed out of our home opener because the nfl doesnt like baltimore.now  that i think about it the power outage at the SB seems more and more like it was on purpose to screw us,our team was older and they knew sitting even longer would make our deffense stiff,its ironic that it happened after the KO return-not before).All that said,ravens fans calm down,step off the ledge.if you truly thought we were gonna go back to the superbowl i think you had extremely high expectations.we'll make the playoffs and give anybody a run for their money but dont expect to win the SB again,if it happens GREAT! but dont expect it

[edreedfromtheu]

Everyone is talking about our poor decision to cut Q and why Dickson and Clark are even running routes on offense...but has anyone been paying attention to our secondary? Beside Webby, they are horrid.

What is crazy is we are now starting back ups to Pollard, Williams, Reed last year. They are not improvements; they are the guys that came in when our starters were injured/winded.
And our defense was one of our worst ever last year.

I feel we will find a go to guy besides Smith and Stokley in the next game or two. But this season's secondary reminds me of the year that we had to accept Walker as a starter due to a lack of better candidates. Without a stifling pass rush, our secondary will allow huge passing yards. :(

SUPPOSEDLY Ed Reed was one of the worst players on the team and couldn't tackle to save his life, and gambles too much and can't do anything if he's not getting interceptions.  And when he does get an interception, he just gives the ball away on some stupid lateral.

No, I don't believe any of that.... but most people here do.  And I told everyone who insulted Reed, that if they thought he couldn't tackle... then they were going to LOVE Michael Huff.  (That was sarcasm.)  Michael Huff is one of the worst tacklers I've ever seen in the NFL.  Well... until I saw that Redskins game this past Monday Night.

With all that said... am I that worried?  No.  The Ravens don't have to play against Peyton Manning unless both teams meet in the playoffs.  I don't anticipate many other teams having both the quarterback AND receivers to be able to move the ball like that.  A lot of those were on 3rd downs.  So it's not like the defense wasn't making the offense work for it.

Bottom line, the defense was holding their own.  You know, until the major problem on this team reared its head.  That's right... Joe Flacco back to his very inconsistent ways.  He turns the ball over on a bad pass... and the Broncos get their first touchdown.  After that, what happens in the 2nd half?  Offense can't even get a first down.  It's either a 3 and out, or a turnover.  The Ravens defense gets exhausted.  You think Redskins defense was tired from being on the field the whole game?  Well try the Ravens defense playing a better QB.... in thin air at Mile High.  The got gassed, and the Broncos got some quick scores.  It was still a game at halftime, but the offense couldn't hold up its part.  They didn't even have to score... just take care of the ball, protect field position, and give the defense some time!  Keep Peyton Manning off the field!

The defense will only get better with the secondary learning from eachother.  The pass rush looked good, and I imagine that will only get better too.

Now, if the team is getting beat by teams like the JAGUARS last year... or Brandon Weeden this week.... then I'll worry.  As evidenced by Week 1.... the division is weak.  Ravens SHOULD be able to win the division.  My question is once the playoffs get here, have they put it together by then to go on another run?

[EricH]

Great post Edreedfromtheu!

[K-Dog]

Its getting to the point I cant tell the difference between the sarcastic posts and the dooms dayers posts.

[Alexir]

Just one game. All phases kinda stunk, but if safeties start going on a downward spiral, Kerry Rhodes is out there and he rated out last season at 4th best safety by pro football focus.

I think our guys will bounce back but there is an option if they dont

[Sami84]

putting kerry rhodes at saftey and huff at cb with elam at SS is the way to go i feel.

[jimmypowder]

Yeah one look at Huff at Safety was plenty enough . Make him a nickel corner .

[izvoodoo]

SUPPOSEDLY Ed Reed was one of the worst players on the team and couldn't tackle to save his life, and gambles too much and can't do anything if he's not getting interceptions.  And when he does get an interception, he just gives the ball away on some stupid lateral.

No, I don't believe any of that.... but most people here do.  And I told everyone who insulted Reed, that if they thought he couldn't tackle... then they were going to LOVE Michael Huff.  (That was sarcasm.)  Michael Huff is one of the worst tacklers I've ever seen in the NFL.  Well... until I saw that Redskins game this past Monday Night.

With all that said... am I that worried?  No.  The Ravens don't have to play against Peyton Manning unless both teams meet in the playoffs.  I don't anticipate many other teams having both the quarterback AND receivers to be able to move the ball like that.  A lot of those were on 3rd downs.  So it's not like the defense wasn't making the offense work for it.

Bottom line, the defense was holding their own.  You know, until the major problem on this team reared its head.  That's right... Joe Flacco back to his very inconsistent ways.  He turns the ball over on a bad pass... and the Broncos get their first touchdown.  After that, what happens in the 2nd half?  Offense can't even get a first down.  It's either a 3 and out, or a turnover.  The Ravens defense gets exhausted.  You think Redskins defense was tired from being on the field the whole game?  Well try the Ravens defense playing a better QB.... in thin air at Mile High.  The got gassed, and the Broncos got some quick scores.  It was still a game at halftime, but the offense couldn't hold up its part.  They didn't even have to score... just take care of the ball, protect field position, and give the defense some time!  Keep Peyton Manning off the field!

The defense will only get better with the secondary learning from eachother.  The pass rush looked good, and I imagine that will only get better too.

Now, if the team is getting beat by teams like the JAGUARS last year... or Brandon Weeden this week.... then I'll worry.  As evidenced by Week 1.... the division is weak.  Ravens SHOULD be able to win the division.  My question is once the playoffs get here, have they put it together by then to go on another run?

I don't think the Bengals looks worse then we did necessarily.  They're certainly the team to watch.

 

 

The AFC as a whole is just mediocore.

[callahan09]

 

...Then, you add in the fact that the Ravens were consistently going three and out and it doesn't help, especially not in the high altitudes of Denver. The defense was visibly gassed during the entire game...

 

 

I don't believe the defense being gassed is the reason the game got out of hand.  The game was basically lost about halfway through the 3rd quarter when the Broncos had already scored 21 points in the 2nd half at that time.

 

They came out of half-time and should have been fresh, and allowed an 80 yard touchdown in 2 minutes & 30 seconds.

 

Then the offense has a three and out but the punt is blocked, leading to a 10 yard touchdown in 40 seconds.  They had 1:22 to rest between the opening drive and when they had to come out for the goal-line stand.  After half-time's rest, that's 2:30 of work, then 1:22 of rest, and then back out... no reason to call them *gassed* at that particular time, they should have been capable of preventing a touchdown and forcing a field goal, but they didn't, they allowed another touchdown.  The catalyst of course was the blocked punt that created such a short field.

 

The offense comes out and produces another 3 and out in another 1:22 (same exact figures as the first offensive drive of the half).  The has really done very little over the course of the previous 3:24, due to two offensive drives totaling 2:44 and then that quick little 0:40 of goal line defense the just led to a touchdown on 2 plays, which shouldn't have exactly worn them out.  So they shouldn't be gassed at this point.  That's my opinion.  You come in from half-time and work for about 3 minutes, rest for about 3 minutes, and then you're in there to play defense with your opponent starting at their 37 yard line.

 

But the defense gave up another touchdown, for the third possession in a row.  This time they let them go 63 yards in 2 minutes & 29 seconds.

 

So we're about 8 minutes into the 3rd quarter, and the defense has given up touchdowns all 3 times the opponent had possession.  One of those is a more excusable short-field situation, but then that was bookended by two long drives for touchdowns, and they should have felt plenty rested for both of those drives, so I don't buy the "they were gassed" theory for why they gave up those two touchdowns.

 

Again, it was all a catalyst stemming from that blocked punt, yes.  But you give the defense too much credit besides that.  Giving up the short field touchdown isn't unacceptable in this league by any means, but to bookend it by allowing two long drives for touchdowns when you should have been plenty rested is just bad.  And it's at this point that you're staying at a 21 point swing within the span of half a quarter, and you know the game is out of hand and the momentum has totally flipped to the other guys.

 

If they were supposedly "gassed" at the beginning of the half when they should have been well rested for all of those drives... then how do you explain that following that sequence, the defense forced them to punt on their next two drives, with only 1:42 and 1:29 respectively between those drives for rest?  They mustn't have been gassed then... So what gives?  For the rest of the game after those 3 straight touchdowns to start the second half, the defense held them to 25 plays on 6 drives (vs 17 plays on 3 drives to start the half), for 168 yards (vs 153), and 2 TDs (vs 3).  That's a difference of 1.5 fewer plays per drive, 23 fewer yards per drive, 2.28 fewer yards per play, and allowing a score on one third of their possessions versus all of them.

 

So if it was a matter of the defense being gassed, why were they so much more effective at stopping them when they had been on the field for more and more time as the second half went on, versus being a sieve when they were well-rested just coming out of half-time?

 

They shouldn't have even been tired at half-time, considering the Broncos only had 10:50 time of possession in the first half, and ran only 33 plays on 7 drives.

 

The Ravens ran 52 plays on 8 drives for 19:10 time of possession in the first half.  If anyone should have been gassed at the start of the 2nd half, it should have been the Broncos.

 

In the second half, the Ravens ran 47 plays on 9 drives for 14:38 time of possession, versus the Broncos' 42 plays on 9 drives for 15:22 time of possession.  Looks pretty equal in terms of how much each defense had to play and how "gassed" each one should have been (if you exclude the fact that the first half should have taken a whole lot more out of Denver than it should have taken out of us).

 

There is really no excuse for the defense giving up 5 touchdowns in the second half.  They weren't on the field for an exorbitant amount of time.  And the majority of the problem started with the defense giving up the TD on their first two real possessions plus not having a goal line stand when the blocked punt occurred.  The blocked punt was disadvantageous to them, and the offense having 2 three and outs to start the second half was not helpful either... but to just let them march into the end zone 3 straight times is inexcusable.  

[baltimoreravensfan4life]

 

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I won't lie, I didn't read all of this, thoroughly, just kinda skimmed. I did get the gist, though, and I think you're failing to take into account the extremely important fact that the Ravens were playing in Denver. You can certainly analyze how long it took for all the plays to have happened and what not, but the fact remains that the Ravens were still in extremely thin air. The temperature is significantly warmer than it was in January, which means the air density is lower and that means that the air was thinner. There was not as much oxygen. When your body hasn't adjusted to that altitude, that's extremely tough. Add in the fact that due to the new CBA rules limiting practices and all that can be done, I'm not sure that the Ravens were conditioned enough to be playing in an altitude like that. That's just killer on them, especially if they're sprinting on every single play. 

[baltimoreravensfan4life]

I don't believe the defense being gassed is the reason the game got out of hand.  The game was basically lost about halfway through the 3rd quarter when the Broncos had already scored 21 points in the 2nd half at that time.

 

They came out of half-time and should have been fresh, and allowed an 80 yard touchdown in 2 minutes & 30 seconds.

 

Then the offense has a three and out but the punt is blocked, leading to a 10 yard touchdown in 40 seconds.  They had 1:22 to rest between the opening drive and when they had to come out for the goal-line stand.  After half-time's rest, that's 2:30 of work, then 1:22 of rest, and then back out... no reason to call them *gassed* at that particular time, they should have been capable of preventing a touchdown and forcing a field goal, but they didn't, they allowed another touchdown.  The catalyst of course was the blocked punt that created such a short field.

 

The offense comes out and produces another 3 and out in another 1:22 (same exact figures as the first offensive drive of the half).  The has really done very little over the course of the previous 3:24, due to two offensive drives totaling 2:44 and then that quick little 0:40 of goal line defense the just led to a touchdown on 2 plays, which shouldn't have exactly worn them out.  So they shouldn't be gassed at this point.  That's my opinion.  You come in from half-time and work for about 3 minutes, rest for about 3 minutes, and then you're in there to play defense with your opponent starting at their 37 yard line.

 

But the defense gave up another touchdown, for the third possession in a row.  This time they let them go 63 yards in 2 minutes & 29 seconds.

 

So we're about 8 minutes into the 3rd quarter, and the defense has given up touchdowns all 3 times the opponent had possession.  One of those is a more excusable short-field situation, but then that was bookended by two long drives for touchdowns, and they should have felt plenty rested for both of those drives, so I don't buy the "they were gassed" theory for why they gave up those two touchdowns.

 

Again, it was all a catalyst stemming from that blocked punt, yes.  But you give the defense too much credit besides that.  Giving up the short field touchdown isn't unacceptable in this league by any means, but to bookend it by allowing two long drives for touchdowns when you should have been plenty rested is just bad.  And it's at this point that you're staying at a 21 point swing within the span of half a quarter, and you know the game is out of hand and the momentum has totally flipped to the other guys.

 

If they were supposedly "gassed" at the beginning of the half when they should have been well rested for all of those drives... then how do you explain that following that sequence, the defense forced them to punt on their next two drives, with only 1:42 and 1:29 respectively between those drives for rest?  They mustn't have been gassed then... So what gives?  For the rest of the game after those 3 straight touchdowns to start the second half, the defense held them to 25 plays on 6 drives (vs 17 plays on 3 drives to start the half), for 168 yards (vs 153), and 2 TDs (vs 3).  That's a difference of 1.5 fewer plays per drive, 23 fewer yards per drive, 2.28 fewer yards per play, and allowing a score on one third of their possessions versus all of them.

 

So if it was a matter of the defense being gassed, why were they so much more effective at stopping them when they had been on the field for more and more time as the second half went on, versus being a sieve when they were well-rested just coming out of half-time?

 

They shouldn't have even been tired at half-time, considering the Broncos only had 10:50 time of possession in the first half, and ran only 33 plays on 7 drives.

 

The Ravens ran 52 plays on 8 drives for 19:10 time of possession in the first half.  If anyone should have been gassed at the start of the 2nd half, it should have been the Broncos.

 

In the second half, the Ravens ran 47 plays on 9 drives for 14:38 time of possession, versus the Broncos' 42 plays on 9 drives for 15:22 time of possession.  Looks pretty equal in terms of how much each defense had to play and how "gassed" each one should have been (if you exclude the fact that the first half should have taken a whole lot more out of Denver than it should have taken out of us).

 

There is really no excuse for the defense giving up 5 touchdowns in the second half.  They weren't on the field for an exorbitant amount of time.  And the majority of the problem started with the defense giving up the TD on their first two real possessions plus not having a goal line stand when the blocked punt occurred.  The blocked punt was disadvantageous to them, and the offense having 2 three and outs to start the second half was not helpful either... but to just let them march into the end zone 3 straight times is inexcusable.  

 

I won't lie, I didn't read all of this, thoroughly, just kinda skimmed. I did get the gist, though, and I think you're failing to take into account the extremely important fact that the Ravens were playing in Denver. You can certainly analyze how long it took for all the plays to have happened and what not, but the fact remains that the Ravens were still in extremely thin air. The temperature is significantly warmer than it was in January, which means the air density is lower and that means that the air was thinner. There was not as much oxygen. When your body hasn't adjusted to that altitude, that's extremely tough. Add in the fact that due to the new CBA rules limiting practices and all that can be done, I'm not sure that the Ravens were conditioned enough to be playing in an altitude like that. That's just killer on them, especially if they're sprinting on every single play. 

[Militant X 1]

no!  they stunk up the joint in 1 game.  1 game!  now, if that type of play persists....then we have a serious problem in the secondary.  due to the media and talking heads and all of the negative feedback and criticism of their gameplay vs the broncos, I hope that they play with a HUGE chip on their shoulders from here on out!  my eyes will also be on Flacco and the offense....with their 3 & outs and can't move the chains with the running game selves!  ughhhh!

 

~Mili

[Alexir]

Brandon Weeden will be scared to death of our secondary.

[jar2260]

Don't mean to be repeditive, but the lack of aggresion by our front and line backers is giving the quarter back to much time! With more pressure on the quarter back the defensive backs job will be easier! When you give a good quarter back time they will pick you apart!!

[Alexir]

Don't mean to be repeditive, but the lack of aggresion by our front and line backers is giving the quarter back to much time! With more pressure on the quarter back the defensive backs job will be easier! When you give a good quarter back time they will pick you apart!!

 

We played one game. Against one of the best QBs in the league that doesnt hold on to the ball. We played without Art Jones and our defense was gassed from lack of success of the offense not staying on the field and scoring points.

 

Art Jones playing is a huge difference maker. I will say I was not impressed by Ngata versus Ramierez.

[GrimCoconut]

We played one game. Against one of the best QBs in the league that doesnt hold on to the ball. We played without Art Jones and our defense was gassed from lack of success of the offense not staying on the field and scoring points.

Art Jones playing is a huge difference maker. I will say I was not impressed by Ngata versus Ramierez.

I think Ngata did a great job against the run but he struggled to apply interior pressure. In that way I agree. Ngata was awesome against the run though while I watched the game.

[Alexir]

I think Ngata did a great job against the run but he struggled to apply interior pressure. In that way I agree. Ngata was awesome against the run though while I watched the game.

 

Yeah, if you go back and watch him on passing downs, he didn't even try going through Ramierez. He just jumped up and down trying to swat Peyton's pass. Looks like he ate too much Royal Farms :P