Dennis Pitta is a bigger loss than Q (Anquan Boldin)

[ThePurpleWall]

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[JoeyFlex5]

all any ravens fans wanna talk about is "did you see boldin today? man we were stupid for trading him" godddd SHUTUP and get over it.. the guy was getting a ton of money for production that didnt match, idc what you say, his production didnt match his pay. pitta was a taller and faster version of boldin, his play style is carbon copy of boldins, just in a different position. he was younger, and the contract wouldnt have been nearly as hefty as boldins. we won a super bowl, and said we gotta reload, were dealing with the growing pains right now, so be patient, and stop expecting a 19-0 repeat, and get over the boldin trade, hes long gone, and ive accepted it. and if we dont have a great season, oh well we won a ring last year in incredible fashion, just keep that in ur short term memory and know that we got a bright future with our franchise qb, and a strong foundation in guys like pitta(when he returns) rice, and torrey. if pitta was out there instead of clark, i think the ravens walk away with a easy win, because pitta doesnt drop the td catch before the 2n half, and we woulda had alot more converted 3rd downs.

if things dont go great this year, just calm down guys. i think we'll be fine this year, but if not, mark my words we'll be back with a vengeance in 2014

[Hardbaugh]

This. I can count 5 "rub" routes that SF ran to get Boldin open in space, where he is, ahem, most effective

 

True, but Kaepernick was able to get him the ball when he was free , Flacco would have recognized it late and threw the ball as the D B was closing or not see Boldin open at all. 

 

Flacco is too slow pulling the trigger which results in contested catches and lacks the vision to see the whole field like the greats do. Flacco missed on several wide open receivers Monday night where the guy making less than him AAV hit on them all night.

 

I LMAO watching that game thinking in what world is Boldin not worth 7.5 AAV but Flacco is worth 20 million plus AAV?

 

 

Boldin is elite , Flacco is not.

[lowro11er]

Dallas Clark  7 for 87 yards 0 TD

Stokley 4 for 34 yards 0 TD

 

Boldin 13 for 217 1 TD

[Worthy]

Boldin was open because Green Bay played zone defense because of the running game SF threatened after GB after embrassed last year during the playoffs by Calpernick.

 

When teams match up against the Ravens, we rarely see as much zone as GB played against SF!  Teams do the smart thing against us, by bracketing Torrey -- and playing hard man to man since Boldin or Pitta wasn't a threat to go the distance because of their speed.

 

Last year, we started seeing Boldin and Pitta come alive during the playoffs because we had a different Offensive Coordinator who knows how to exploit the middle of the field!

[runamuk]

This week I look forward to the 9ers seahawks  game I doubt Boldin puts up those kinds of numbers against that defense .and if he does then I will be eating my words

[PurpleCityLights]

for all the people who are saying Q was on the down side look up his stats before he came here, his stats here, & what he is doing with the 49ers. You will then understand how Cam damn near killed his career.

[Sami84]

he was wearing his purple raven pads yesterday. i want him back next year.

[krrock10]

I think our front office was so worried about last year's defensive performance that they felt compelled to use the Boldin money to make it better . It's still too early really to see if this was the correct decision but Manning throwing 7td's is not exactly encouraging .

I agree with this completely.  Ozzie was terrified (justifiably) by our horrid defensive play last year.  Just not sure I have ever been sold on Doom 100%.  Like the guy, just not sold he is going to be anything more than a 10 sack specialist like Kruger.

 

On the Boldin front:

1. Yeah he was good

2. Yeah we criminally misused him

3. Yeah his 7.5 cap hit was too much

4. Yeah the unexpected loss of Pitta and Jacoby hurts

5. Boldin is no longer on this team so I am not worrying about him anymore.  We need TE's who can catch badly.  End of story. Dickson is terrible and always has been.  Not sure why anyone thought he could do anything.

[rafahash]

5. Boldin is no longer on this team so I am not worrying about him anymore.  

 

THIS!! You guys really need to let go of Boldin. He's gone, we have to worry about ourselves.

[JoeCool#5]

True, but Kaepernick was able to get him the ball when he was free , Flacco would have recognized it late and threw the ball as the D B was closing or not see Boldin open at all. 

 

Flacco is too slow pulling the trigger which results in contested catches and lacks the vision to see the whole field like the greats do. Flacco missed on several wide open receivers Monday night where the guy making less than him AAV hit on them all night.

 

I LMAO watching that game thinking in what world is Boldin not worth 7.5 AAV but Flacco is worth 20 million plus AAV?

 

 

Boldin is elite , Flacco is not.

 

Haha, thanks for the morning laugh. You clearly have "no clue" what elite is. lol.

 

Boldin is a great player.  He is a stud, but to say he is elite?. Elite creates his own separation.

 

Even Tim Hasselbeck on Mike and Mike this morning, said "What they (49ers) did a very good job of doing, was creating stack releases for Boldin to get open. And this is not a knock on Boldin. Its "just a reality of the stage of his career" He doesn't run, the way he could once run. He doesn't run like Demarius Thomas or even a guy like Eric Decker, doesn't run that way. So they (49ers) create ways for him to get up the field without being impeded. And then at that point, you have Q running in space, who is trailing him or along side him. And then Q can still at this point, fight for the football like anyone in the NFL. They (49ers) did an excellent job for creating opportunities". <Thanks DVR>

 

Its a shame Ravens don't create rubs for their WRs more often. 

[Speed Kills]

Look at the plays that Jacoby made before he was injured, and that Marlon Brown made after that. Does anyone think Boldin could have done better? The real issues were the drops by Clark and Dickson.

 

End of. 

Wait wut? The man just put up 200 yards and a TD with a QB he has played one game with... Yes he would have done better than a kick return specialist and an undrafted rookie free agent

[TDubbs]

-No one here wanted to lose Boldin, that was my favourite WR ever. But it happened, we have to move on.

-Pitta was definitely the bigger loss cause he is currently on the team and it was not an anticipated loss. 

-I don't know whats wrong with Dickson .. He's had these problems all throughout his career, I don't understand how he keeps dropping balls. Gaining separation is not a problem for him either, just catch it!! 

[mgridda]

Wait wut? The man just put up 200 yards and a TD with a QB he has played one game with... Yes he would have done better than a kick return specialist and an undrafted rookie free agent

 

In our game, you think he would have run the routes better than Jacoby and Marlon did? Got more open? Gotten more yards after the catch? 

[The Raven]

The only thing Boldin impressed me with last night was his ability to get yards after contact. Green Bay just didn't even cover him. You can tell me all day he was getting separation and getting open, but no. All he really did was find little vacated zones, sit down, catch the ball, and run through arm tackles from DBs. Let's see how he does when he actually has to go against man coverage, especially against a guy like Sherman. Green Bay's defense practically gave him all those catches.

[GrimCoconut]

I saw the game. Almost all the catches Q caught were clutch plays in tough traffic in middle today. He was an absolute boss. Boldin didnt lose a step after playoffs. 208 yards, 1TD. Kap's completion rating went on to 70% and that is with over +35 throws.
And now, 9ers fans are talking about possibly extending boldin to a cheap 2-3 year deal instead of giving Crabtree a fat paycheck and groom Quinton Patton, Moore so they can pay Aldon.


I wanted us to extend boldin for cheap contract for 2 years. Now we have a late 6th round pick, 1.8m dead money from trade, and direly hurting @ receiving position. And for a #1 WR he was just 6m. Easily couldve been had b4 reg start.

Yep....This might come down to being the worst trade in Ravens history.

We're not missing Boldin as a WR. We're missing his ability to move the chains, and a big part of that was losing Dennis Pitta.

[ratedr]

Curious to see how Boldin does against guys like Sherman, Browner and Thomas.

[Ravenslifer]

Wait wut? The man just put up 200 yards and a TD with a QB he has played one game with... Yes he would have done better than a kick return specialist and an undrafted rookie free agent

 

Against one of the worst secondaries in the NFL - we faced one of the better secondaries and pass rushes.

[billick]

Letting Boldin go was a mistake. No doubt.

 

Pitta getting injured was not caused by the front office, letting Q go was.

 

I hope Boldin gets another ring. We have to pay out the cap with or without Q.

 

Not having the courage to admit this was a terrible trade does not mean you are a true fan.  Forget defending this mistake.We have no one of his ability. No AB, no Super Bowl.

[billick]

The only thing Boldin impressed me with last night was his ability to get yards after contact. Green Bay just didn't even cover him. You can tell me all day he was getting separation and getting open, but no. All he really did was find little vacated zones, sit down, catch the ball, and run through arm tackles from DBs. Let's see how he does when he actually has to go against man coverage, especially against a guy like Sherman. Green Bay's defense practically gave him all those catches.

 

What impressed you about our WR's vs Denver ?

[berad]

What impressed you about our WR's vs Denver ?

The WRs looked fine. The TEs? Ugh...

[Ravenseconbeast]

The WRs looked fine. The TEs? Ugh...

Marlon looked good. Stokley was bad. Clark kinda came along later. Dickson was awful....so its kind of a mixed bag.

[The Raven]

What impressed you about our WR's vs Denver ?

 

Honestly, our receivers beat man coverage, and they found holes in zones. Brown and Smith combined for 8 catches for 150 yards. Not ground breaking or dominant, but much better than anticipated. I'm not worried about our receivers, just our tight ends.

[StingerNLG]

There's a difference, I never said Q was a bad WR. He's no all pro, but he's by no means bad.

 

He's old, and not worth $6million if he's got 1-2 years left. Plain and simple.

 

Boldin is a good player,  but that offense without Crabtree will be designed to FEED HIM. Again, this is before the Crabtree injury, where he'd prob produce like a #2 WR.

 

 

Letting him go was a mistake IF Pitta was gone at the time, none of us saw that injury coming. I'm pretty sure that if Ozzie knew Pitta was going down, Q would've never been traded.

 

Now, it looks like a huge mistake, even I admit that, but we could've never seen that injury coming.

 

And what you aren't seeing is that if Pitta went down and we still had Boldin, we'd be in much better shape than we are now.   You said it yourself, Crabtree bring out means they feed Boldin.   Well, they can afford to have Crabtree out because they now HAVE a Boldin to make up the production.

 

We did not have a receiver on this roster to make up Q's production.   And Pitta isn't a receiver, he's a TE, so I am not sure how we continue to come to this "Pitta can replace his numbers" thing.   They were both on the field at the same time last year.   And once Cam Cameron was gone, and Boldin was being used properly, he went into beast mode.

 

The bottom line is that Boldin could have caught 4-5 of those dropped passes on Thursday.   Even with Pitta out, with Boldin on our team there is a better than average chance we win Thursday night.   And that is what is making some people angry about this trade.   

[1/28/01]

The bottom line is that Boldin could have caught 4-5 of those dropped passes on Thursday. Even with Pitta out, with Boldin on our team there is a better than average chance we win Thursday night. And that is what is making some people angry about this trade.

Im just as mad as the next guy that we traded Boldin. I wanted him to retire a Raven (the team he should have been drafted by). But he wouldnt have stopped Peyton from going into his own "beast mode" and torching our D for 7 TD's. COULD we have extended another drive or two? Sure...but it wouldnt have made a huge change in the outcome of that game.

[izvoodoo]

You also have to realize Boldin is a really great fit in the read option.  read option forces a lot of zone.  And no one is as good as boldin against Zone.

 

Also it's one week.  Chill.

[503_ravens_fan]

yes boldin balled out but ill reserve to say we messed up until I see him against seattle. those corners are some of the best in the NFL.

[waxytaxi]

You also have to realize Boldin is a really great fit in the read option.  read option forces a lot of zone.  And no one is as good as boldin against Zone.

 

Also it's one week.  Chill.

not to mention it was green bays defense. Either way im happy for Quan

[izvoodoo]

not to mention it was green bays defense. Either way im happy for Quan

Yeah, he's a warrior.  I want to see him do well either way.  I feel bad, his hall of fame chances were ruined by cam cameron.

[Speed Kills]

In our game, you think he would have run the routes better than Jacoby and Marlon did? Got more open? Gotten more yards after the catch? 

After seeing how good he looked, absolutely! How would you not think that? He does run better routes than those guys and he absolutely would have gotten more yards after the catch because thats what he does. The odds Q would have faired better than those two did against the Broncos without Champ Bailey is like betting on Secretariat to win a horse race featuring all donkeys or Joey Chesnut to eat more hot dogs in 10 minutes than a pre-schooler haha

Against one of the worst secondaries in the NFL - we faced one of the better secondaries and pass rushes.

.____. The Broncos were missing their best CB. It will be ok tho cause we are gonna wax Cleveland this week and get back on track.