Dennis Pitta is a bigger loss than Q (Anquan Boldin)

[SecretAgentMan]

Allow me to make a negative thread since all this Q crap is going on.

 

The offense would be fine if we had Pitta. Losing him is the real blow.

 

800 + yards and 4 TDs isn't hard to replace. Losing Q sucks, but trust me, we would NOT be complaining if we had Pitta.

 

Pitta is the real loss regardless of how good Q was today. Pitta can make the tough catches and move the chains on 3rd down. Exactly what Q did for us, except younger.

 

 

Q isn't Megatron, he's a beast but stop acting like he's an all pro. And stop blaming Ozzie for being an idiot(the 6th rounder)

 

We all know DAMN WELL that if there was a better offer for Q on the table Ozzie would have taken it.

 

[VabchRavens]

Did you not see the Packers game?

[Purple Nurple]

Pitta is out. Boldin is balling out.

[PolishRifle]

And here come the damage conrol threads.

[BMORElegacy]

I think we all wanted to keep Boldin. But the reality remains that we couldn't afford him. He was being overpaid and we needed the cap space to rebuild the team...

[SecretAgentMan]

Did you not see the Packers game?

I did, and none of you know how that offense works.

 

That offense is designed for Kaep to lock on to a WR and throw it to him regardless of who it is. Generally, that would be the best WR on the team, and with Crabtree injured it is Q. Crabtree would've had similar stats/

 

Not to mention the GB secondary is so piss poor that It helped so much,

 

Kaep is literally going to FEED Q this year, making him a fantasy stud. He's not an all pro. BEAST yes,  but not all pro

 

Q is a big loss, but Pitta would've made this team so much better that it's not even funny

 

EDIT: Kaep would feed the first WR regardless of how good/bad he was.

[SecretAgentMan]

Pitta is out. Boldin is balling out.

Yeah, and none of us saw that coming(Pitta)

[Sami84]

maybe he is an all pro but flacco coulndt make the most of hs ability. look at it this way.without boldin today the 49 rs wouldnt have even put up 10 points.

 

 

id take boldin over dumervil.

[Grendelwulf21]

Im done reading these forums for awhile, im sick of people thinking they know what our team shouldve done after ONE week of the games

[redravenfan]

Allow me to make a negative thread since all this Q crap is going on.

 

The offense would be fine if we had Pitta. Losing him is the real blow.

 

800 + yards and 4 TDs isn't hard to replace. Losing Q sucks, but trust me, we would NOT be complaining if we had Pitta.

 

Pitta is the real loss regardless of how good Q was today. Pitta can make the tough catches and move the chains on 3rd down. Exactly what Q did for us, except younger.

 

 

Q isn't Megatron, he's a beast but stop acting like he's an all pro. And stop blaming Ozzie for being an idiot(the 6th rounder)

 

We all know DAMN WELL that if there was a better offer for Q on the table Ozzie would have taken it.

ha you were one of the ones ripping Boldin apart and belittling people who said we would regret the trade . 200  yards in one game it has nothing to do with anything other then Boldin is a good player and everyone makes a mistake and this was a huge one for the ravens  . and someone other then you has just as much intelligence in football as you do .

[Purple Nurple]

This subject is ridiculous. How could you ever quantify which loss is bigger?

Today I miss Q. Bad. Thursday night I missed Pitta. There's no way to know which loss hurts more after one game.

[SecretAgentMan]

ha you were one of the ones ripping Boldin apart and belittling people who said we would regret the trade . 200  yards in one game it has nothing to do with anything other then Boldin is a good player and everyone makes a mistake and this was a huge one for the ravens  . and someone other then you has just as much intelligence in football as you do .

There's a difference, I never said Q was a bad WR. He's no all pro, but he's by no means bad.

 

He's old, and not worth $6million if he's got 1-2 years left. Plain and simple.

 

Boldin is a good player,  but that offense without Crabtree will be designed to FEED HIM. Again, this is before the Crabtree injury, where he'd prob produce like a #2 WR.

 

 

Letting him go was a mistake IF Pitta was gone at the time, none of us saw that injury coming. I'm pretty sure that if Ozzie knew Pitta was going down, Q would've never been traded.

 

Now, it looks like a huge mistake, even I admit that, but we could've never seen that injury coming.

[dhstandard]

If Thompson and Jones didn't get hurt I think we would be singing a different tune about Boldin.  Jones was playing great Thursday but our slot position suffered.  Thompson and Pitta both fill that role nicely.  If Pitta is in the game, we are up 17-10 before the Welker drop.

[Crabcakes&Football]

Allow me to make a negative thread since all this Q crap is going on.

 

The offense would be fine if we had Pitta. Losing him is the real blow.

 

800 + yards and 4 TDs isn't hard to replace. Losing Q sucks, but trust me, we would NOT be complaining if we had Pitta.

 

Pitta is the real loss regardless of how good Q was today. Pitta can make the tough catches and move the chains on 3rd down. Exactly what Q did for us, except younger.

 

 

Q isn't Megatron, he's a beast but stop acting like he's an all pro. And stop blaming Ozzie for being an idiot(the 6th rounder)

 

We all know DAMN WELL that if there was a better offer for Q on the table Ozzie would have taken it.

 

You must be referring to the Cam Boldin.

[GrimCoconut]

Pitta is a greater loss than Boldin. This is a fact. Losing both hurt Joe. People don't realize losing Pitta, Birk, Boldin & now Jacoby is a tough thing to surmount for Joe Flacco. It was hard enough when it was just Birk & Boldin. When Pitta went down it was a problem but I still wasn't worried. Losing Jacoby Jones is a tough one because it hurts field position and big play ability. 

 

I know it's easy to get emotional after Boldin just put up 200 yards. I get it and I don't fault anyone for it. I'm personally not worried because I feel like we'll go through these growing pains early on and then emerge from them. It's going to be tough for a month, though. 

[redravenfan]

There's a difference, I never said Q was a bad WR. He's no all pro, but he's by no means bad.

 

He's old, and not worth $6million if he's got 1-2 years left. Plain and simple.

 

Boldin is a good player,  but that offense without Crabtree will be designed to FEED HIM. Again, this is before the Crabtree injury, where he'd prob produce like a #2 WR.

 

 

Letting him go was a mistake IF Pitta was gone at the time, none of us saw that injury coming. I'm pretty sure that if Ozzie knew Pitta was going down, Q would've never been traded.

 

Now, it looks like a huge mistake, even I admit that, but we could've never seen that injury coming.

lol yeah ok sometimes its better to admit your wrong and move on  . and I see u changed your original  post good idea . we have ALLOT OF very intelligent football fans on this forum and bashing them because they disagree with you is not right .

[SecretAgentMan]

If Thompson and Jones didn't get hurt I think we would be singing a different tune about Boldin.  Jones was playing great Thursday but our slot position suffered.  Thompson and Pitta both fill that role nicely.  If Pitta is in the game, we are up 17-10 before the Welker drop.

That's what I think too.

 

Not to mention we lost one player and got a lot in return

 

Spears

Canty

Dumervil

Dayrl Smith

 

are all quality pieces we used the money we got from the Q trade to get.

[Bltravens]

Just a damn shame we couldn't get his cap hit down. People seemingly are quick to forget Boldin was a 7.5 cap hit.

Do we miss him? You're damn right we do and if you don't you're blind. But there was NO WAY to keep Boldin around. That is unless you wanted UDFAs as our second string players at half the positions on defence, then losing Pitta/Jones/Dickson the next year.

[Sami84]

jacoby jones resgining was a mistake. return men have their great season and seldom duplicate it. i think its a lot of luck and reliance on others.

[SecretAgentMan]

Just a damn shame we couldn't get his cap hit down. People seemingly are quick to forget Boldin was a 7.5 cap hit.

Do we miss him? You're damn right we do and if you don't you're blind. But there was NO WAY to keep Boldin around. That is unless you wanted UDFAs as our second string players at half the positions on defence, then losing Pitta/Jones/Dickson the next year.

Of course I miss Q.

 

He's a beast as I said earlier, but I understood letting him go.

 

I miss him more now bc of the Pitta injury lol, but I thought at the time that we got the better end of the deal

[frank21054]

Q was never utilized correctly in Baltimore plain and simple.

[runamuk]

Both are huge losses . I like boldin and thought we made a huge mistake even with the defensive additions. Now ravens cupboard is bare . still hate that we traded him but its all water under the bridge now

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

They both are huge losses

 

Boldin was necessary unfortunately 

[jimjim5]

There's a difference, I never said Q was a bad WR. He's no all pro, but he's by no means bad.

 

He's old, and not worth $6million if he's got 1-2 years left. Plain and simple.

 

Boldin is a good player,  but that offense without Crabtree will be designed to FEED HIM. Again, this is before the Crabtree injury, where he'd prob produce like a #2 WR.

 

 

Letting him go was a mistake IF Pitta was gone at the time, none of us saw that injury coming. I'm pretty sure that if Ozzie knew Pitta was going down, Q would've never been traded.

 

Now, it looks like a huge mistake, even I admit that, but we could've never seen that injury coming.

 1 or 2 years that could have gotten the Ravens another Lombardi. Q deserved the Lewis/Reed/Suggs/Ngata treatment. Boldin was the definition of a Raven. The ravens historically don't shed true Ravens like that.

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="jimjim5" post="1577312" timestamp="1378686751"] 1 or 2 years that could have gotten the Ravens another Lombardi. Q deserved the Lewis/Reed/Suggs/Ngata treatment. Boldin was the definition of a Raven. The ravens historically don't shed true Ravens like that.[/quote] I think our front office was so worried about last year's defensive performance that they felt compelled to use the Boldin money to make it better . It's still too early really to see if this was the correct decision but Manning throwing 7td's is not exactly encouraging .

[ratedr]

 1 or 2 years that could have gotten the Ravens another Lombardi. Q deserved the Lewis/Reed/Suggs/Ngata treatment. Boldin was the definition of a Raven. The ravens historically don't shed true Ravens like that.

Not quite. All four (minus Ray, who is a true Ravens legend and an obvious exception) got extensions in their prime. Q was never gonna be here after next year, especially with the cap situation as it is next year.

[GrimCoconut]

I think our front office was so worried about last year's defensive performance that they could use the Boldin money to make it much better . It's still too early really to see if this was the correct decision but Manning throwing 7td's is not exactly encouraging .

Manning got most of his TDs on one safety & one CB. Those two players accounted for a very large chunk of our yards & points allowed. I honestly hope we put Elam in at safety and I'd love for us to sign Kerry Rhodes and put him at SS, but if we didn't I'd be happy with Elam & Ihedigbo at safety. I'm not sure if Huff is ready. Perhaps he's still learning the communication or something. Graham hasn't looked good either. I'd almost rather put Huff at CB and Elam at safety and have Graham remain on ST or dime than keep Huff as a starting safety. 

[jimmypowder]

[quote name="GrimCoconut" post="1577354" timestamp="1378687374"] Manning got most of his TDs on one safety & one CB. Those two players accounted for a very large chunk of our yards & points allowed. I honestly hope we put Elam in at safety and I'd love for us to sign Kerry Rhodes and put him at SS, but if we didn't I'd be happy with Elam & Ihedigbo at safety. I'm not sure if Huff is ready. Perhaps he's still learning the communication or something. Graham hasn't looked good either. I'd almost rather put Huff at CB and Elam at safety and have Graham remain on ST or dime than keep Huff as a starting safety. [/quote] I agree . I'm not sure we can afford to keep Huff at FS . Using Elam at Safety and moving Huff to CB is a very good idea and I wouldn't be surprised if we see this against the Browns .

[jimjim5]

Q was never utilized correctly in Baltimore plain and simple.

 

 Bingo. A serious question is why? We fan could see this. The 9'ers see this... What is up with the Ravens and offensive sets/personnel moves?? Including this years roster shortcomings.

[GrimCoconut]

 Bingo. A serious question is why? We fan could see this. The 9'ers see this... What is up with the Ravens and offensive sets/personnel moves?? Including this years roster shortcomings.

Well, Anquan is a physical WR who enjoys contact with DBs. When you have a WR like that he is best working the middle of the field against LB and slot CBs that are typically smaller or not as fast as a WR (in the case of LB). Kaepernick is a good QB for Anquan because he can run, and as a result when you have a running QB you need to play zone coverage to allow a CB to come from their zone to where the QB will run. In this situation, Anquan is in an ideal scenario. Joe doesn't run like that.