Opinion: List of Ravens FO/Coaching moves that have historically hurt the francise...

[PuRock]

But the mistakes ARE being repeated.

 

....Keeping coaches to long.

 

rinse, repeat.

 

Like John?  Should we have fired him before the SB win or after?

[BMORElegacy]

Like John?  Should we have fired him before the SB win or after?

 

;)

[Cville-Raven]

Like John? Should we have fired him before the SB win or after?

We should have fired the entire coaching staff and the entire front office......

[jimjim5]

I'd say elaborate, but I really don't care. 

 

A mistake would have been trying to hold the team from last year together for an attempt at a repeat this year. Ozzie attempted to do that following our last Championship and it just led to the team being in Cap Hell. He made it clear that he wasn't going to REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE and went in a direction that has led to fans like you questioning his ability to manage our football team. I support Ozzie and find all the negativity perpetuated on here to be exhausting and counterproductive. 

 

examples.

 

....Keeping coaches to long.

 

... Holding back the talents of players.

 

... WR decisions.

 

well, our beastly TB Lewis did get hurt that  following year. And, they dumped a QB servicable QB for a heartless one.

[jimjim5]

Like John?  Should we have fired him before the SB win or after?

 

like Mattison and Billick and Cam.

 

Come on man...

[ratedr]

Dumervil is 5 years, Canty 3, Spears 2, Huff 2, Smith 1, Stokley 1, Clark 1, Leach back on a reduced 2 year. All moves that were able to happen because we let Q go. I just cannot believe we couldn't get more than a 6th round pick.

It's because it was known that we were gonna cut him anyway. Better a 6th than nothing.

[Cville-Raven]

examples.

....Keeping coaches to long.

... Holding back the talents of players.

... WR decisions.

well, our beastly TB Lewis did get hurt that following year. And, they dumped a QB servicable QB for a heartless one.

Give me some examples of "Holding players talents back"

[ravensdfan]

examples.

 

....Keeping coaches to long.

Which coaches have we kept too long?

 

... Holding back the talents of players.

What players are being held back now?

 

... WR decisions.

What bad decisions? Jacoby was doing well until he got hurt. His backup stepped in and also did well, even though he's a rookie.

 

well, our beastly TB Lewis did get hurt that  following year. And, they dumped a QB servicable QB for a heartless one.

I'm confused here...are you referring to them dumping Dilfer?

[PuRock]

like Mattison and Billick and Cam.

 

Come on man...

 

Billick, really?  

 

I don't know how you can fire him any earlier.  In 2006  he coached the team to a 13-3 record and a first round bye.  Unfortunately it was against Manning.  Then the next year we struggled and he lost control of the locker room and we fired him.  I think the timing of the move was pretty spot on.  

 

You don't want to be firing coaches whenever if they have one or two bad seasons.  That actually does more harm to the team.  We'd be the Redskins. Them holding onto Shanny is a record for them, and its working!

[jimjim5]

Give me some examples of "Holding players talents back"

 

 

Flacco and Boldin and Preist Holmes.

[jimjim5]

 

examples.

 

....Keeping coaches to long.

Which coaches have we kept too long?

 

... Holding back the talents of players.

What players are being held back now?

 

... WR decisions.

What bad decisions? Jacoby was doing well until he got hurt. His backup stepped in and also did well, even though he's a rookie.

 

well, our beastly TB Lewis did get hurt that  following year. And, they dumped a QB servicable QB for a heartless one.

I'm confused here...are you referring to them dumping Dilfer?

dilfer yes. I answered the other questions already.  Oh to answer the WR question... Boldin, Clayton, Heap

[Cville-Raven]

Flacco and Boldin and Preist Holmes.

LOL are seriously going to bring up Priest Holmes.

[jimjim5]

LOL are seriously going to bring up Priest Holmes.

 

Read the title of my thread.

[Ravens_fan]

because its so easy to stay positive after thursday

This

[ravensdfan]

 

 

examples.

 

....Keeping coaches to long.

Which coaches have we kept too long?

 

... Holding back the talents of players.

What players are being held back now?

 

... WR decisions.

What bad decisions? Jacoby was doing well until he got hurt. His backup stepped in and also did well, even though he's a rookie.

 

well, our beastly TB Lewis did get hurt that  following year. And, they dumped a QB servicable QB for a heartless one.

I'm confused here...are you referring to them dumping Dilfer?

dilfer yes. I answered the other questions already.  Oh to answer the WR question... Boldin, Clayton, Heap

 

Dilfer was a game manager. Period. There was no way you could sit back and rely on having an historic defense like we had in 2000 to carry him. It just doesn't happen like that.

[Cville-Raven]

Read the title of my thread.

We drafted a guy named Jamal Lewis. Ever heard of him?

[PuRock]

We drafted a guy named Jamal Lewis. Ever heard of him?

 

Technicality.  

[jimjim5]

It's exhausting coming on here and sifting through all the sky is falling threads started by members with less than 50 posts. 

 

 Just because I dont post HERE doesnt make my posts invalid. I have been active/inactive on Ravens boards for 8 years.

[jimjim5]

I guess it is to painful for folks to see what the Ravens have squandered over the years. Geez I hope this Boldin move pays off and I and wrong.

[ravensdfan]

because its so easy to stay positive after thursday

 

I am and it is easy.

 

The entire AFCN just lost today.

 

We're all tied up in our division.

 

We have the Browns. Browns looked worse than us today.

 

Steelers & Bengals get to slug it out with each other. Steelers looked bad today but the Bengals are still being the Bengals. Messing up a good thing if they can.

 

We are not behind anyone in our division today. Our playoff aspirations are as good as they were before the Denver debacle. And we got a heads up on some weak players and discovered a gem in Marlon Brown.

 

We know where we need work and Harbaugh will get that done. We won't look perfect next week, but we'll look better. It will be enough to beat the Browns.

 

What's not to be positive about?

[BMORElegacy]

 Just because I dont post HERE doesnt make my posts invalid. I have been active/inactive on Ravens boards for 8 years.

When you come on here with so few posts and start such an absurd thread it makes it look like you're some bandwagoner who doesn't know how to stick with your team following a rough outing like Thursday. We see it all the time and it gets old... fast. 

[Cville-Raven]

Technicality.

But I'm right though. Who knows if priest would have worked out with us in the long run.

[BMORElegacy]

I am and it is easy.

 

The entire AFCN just lost today.

 

We're all tied up in our division.

 

We have the Browns. Browns looked worse than us today.

 

Steelers & Bengals get to slug it out with each other. Steelers looked bad today but the Bengals are still being the Bengals. Messing up a good thing if they can.

 

We are not behind anyone in our division today. Our playoff aspirations are as good as they were before the Denver debacle. And we got a heads up on some weak players and discovered a gem in Marlon Brown.

 

We know where we need work and Harbaugh will get that done. We won't look perfect next week, but we'll look better. It will be enough to beat the Browns.

 

What's not to be positive about?

But we didn't fire Billick fast enough 6 years ago! And we squandered Priest Holmes' talent! Seriously, this is why this thread leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. The past is the past. Keep it there. 

[Poes Crows]

Candidly,

Flacco has been a slow learner when it comes to understanding the strengths of his receivers. He just learned the strengths of Boldin late in the championship season.  But what's even more tragic thanFlacco's slow learning curve, is that the Raven Front Office NEVER understood.

 

Never did

 

Still won't admit it.

 

What Frosts Real Raven Fans is "Releasing" key players under contract.  There is no excuse. There is no worthy explanation. Rah Rah Banner waiving in the face of such ignorance is transparent.

 

Stop it.

 

We better beat the Browns or the Calls for Heads to Roll will begin to grow. And we have to trade Matt Elam before his true value is known.

[blackbird29]

Trading Boldin away for some sixth round draft pick. That move is gonna come back to haunt us. Watched him play today and he picked up right where he left off making clutch plays. Good for him. Bad for the Ravens.

[PuRock]

I guess it is to painful for folks to see what the Ravens have squandered over the years. Geez I hope this Boldin move pays off and I and wrong.

 

Five playoff appearances in 5 years, SB champs.  I'd hate to see what the other teams are 'squandering' away.  No front office is perfect.  Hindsight is always 20/20 (this phrase has been used a lot the past couple days).  Its not like the team is reckless, their patient style is paying off more than the next team.  

 

But I'm right though. Who knows if priest would have worked out with us in the long run.

 

I know, I was agreeing with you.  

[jimjim5]

When you come on here with so few posts and start such an absurd thread it makes it look like you're some bandwagoner who doesn't know how to stick with your team following a rough outing like Thursday. We see it all the time and it gets old... fast. 

 

I stick with my team. Period. But the Billick, Boller, Cam, WR situation, and the kid glove development of Flacco is...... bad. Inexclusable, I dont know. But bad? Yes. This Boldin thing could be right up there.

[jimjim5]

We drafted a guy named Jamal Lewis. Ever heard of him?

 

 Then that would be posted in a different thread called, "FO/Coaching moves that paid off"

[PuRock]

Candidly,

 

What Frosts Real Raven Fans is "Releasing" key players under contract.  There is no excuse. There is no worthy explanation. Rah Rah Banner waiving in the face of such ignorance is transparent.

 

 

 

[ratedr]

Unless SF wins the SB though, honestly we can't say we lost yet. Because that's the goal.

 

Sure isn't looking good right now though.