Dean Pees

[RavensFanMvp]

Our defense absolutely sucks!

And even though football is the ultimate team sport, there is one guy and one guy only, who deserves the blame for this, and the one person I'm talking about is... Deen Peas.

This guy Deen Peas has single handily DESTROYED what Ravens football means. He's the Ben and Jerry of defenses. His schemes is so vanilla it should come with a cone and sprinkles. Even after some of the pathetic performances the defense had last year, I tried to give Peas the benefit of the doubt. Not just because we won a super bowl and he should deserve a pass but because I thought it was unfair to judge Peas because of all the injuries we suffered last year.

But after Thursdays performance, I'm going to stick to my intuition and say that Peas is not worthy of being the Ravens defensive coordinator anymore. I didn't know how bad he was, until I did some research, and what I've found will shock you. He's without a doubt the WORST defensive coordinator in Ravens history! And that's saying something, seeing as though he's only been with the team for only a year.  

If you don't believe me, check out the numbers yourself...
 
30, 43, 31, 34, 35, 31, 49

No these aren't the numbers for next weeks Poweball lottery. These are our opponents total points when the Ravens have given up 30 points or more under Peas. That's seven times we've given up 30 points or more under this guy. We've also gave up 300 yards or more 17 times under Ben... I mean Deen. We've given up 400 yds or more 7 times so far under him yet he only been our coordinator for 21 games.

These are frighten numbers compare to what all the other D coordinators has done in the history of this proud franchise....


Defensive coordinator      Year        30 pts or more      40 pts or more     300 yds or more     400 yds or more  
 

Deen Peas                   2012/13           7                           2                        17                          7


Chuck Pagano                2011             1                           0                         6                           2


Greg Mattison                 2010             2                           0                         6                           2

                          
Greg Mattison                 2009             1                           0                         8                           3


Rex Ryan                       2008              2                          0                         7                            0


Rex Ryan                       2007              2                          1                        10                           0


Rex Ryan                       2006              0                          0                         3                            2


Rex Ryan                       2005              2                          1                         5                            1


Mike Nolan                     2004              0                          0                         8                            1


Mike Nolan                     2003              4                          1                         7                            1
     

Mike Nolan                     2002              3                          0                        10                            3


Marvin Lewis                  2001               1                          0                         7                             1


Marvin Lewis                  2000               1                          0                         5                              2


Marvin Lewis                  1999               3                          0                         5                              0


Marvin Lewis                  1998               3                          1                         8                              3  


Marvin Lewis                  1997               2                          1                         9                              4


Marvin Lewis                  1996               6                           2                       13                             4


As you can see, these numbers are staggering. Now keep in mind that Peas has two more games (the Super Bowl and Thursday's game against the Broncos) added to his total, than any other coordinator in any given season. But even if you take those two games out of the equation, his numbers is by far worse than ANY other D coordinator stats for one season and in some cases two seasons combined!

The defense under Deen has been so bad, that it's even worse than the 1996 defense, which most will say was the worse in franchise history. Let that sink in for a minute... The defense under Peas has been worse than the 1996 defense... WORSE!

Peas defense may have better overall stats than the 96 team in other areas (less points pg, less yards pg) but the talent that's on this years team (and last years team) should easily make us a top 10 defense. Ngata, Suggs, Dummervil, Webb, Canty, D. Smith, are all pro bowl level guys. Then you throw in the rookies and the second tier players, A.Brown, M. Elam, B. Williams, and Upshaw, J.Smith, Huff, and our defense should be stout.

But no... We have a guy who is the equivalent of Cam Cameron coaching the defense. Where do Harbaugh find these guys? Oh yeah... they are his buddies. It took him 5 years to fire Cam, which was 3 years over do. How long will it take for John (or even Ozzie or Steve Bisciotti for that matter), to fire this clown.

One thing that stands out when I watch the D under Peas is, our defense is not aggressive anymore. I don't mean aggressive, as in, we aren't blitzing enough. I mean aggressive as in, our defense has to react to the other teams offense, instead of their offense reacting to our D, like in years past. Under Pagano, Rex, or even Mattison or any other D coordinator, offenses had to fight, scrap and struggle for every yard against us. Now teams march up and down the field on us as if they aren't intimidated by our D anymore. Instead of our players moving around before the snap, and confusing the opposing team QB; guys just stand still in a set position, waiting for the ball to be snapped, so they can play their predictable assignments. The only time you see our players move out of position is when the other team sends someone in motion or shift the offense.

What happen to disguising our blitzes? What happened to mixing up the coverage and forcing the QB to throw into tight windows? When was the last time you've seen Ngata drop back into coverage, while the safety come on a blitz, forcing the QB to make a mistake? Why does Suggs and Dummervil, stand still and line up in the same spot, over and over again? Where are the exotic blitzes? This guy Deen Peas is the worse! Instead of attacking offenses and having guys move around before the snap and disguise their assignments, they just stand there on cue waiting for the ball to be snapped. Why don't he try to get pressure from all angles? Why does he let EVERY QB sit in the pocket with lots of time, because the opposing team knows when and where the blitz is coming from. I mean Weeden passed for over 300 yards against us last year. Brandon freaking Weeden! The old Ravens D under any other coordinator would have eaten this bum alive. Don't be surprise if Weeden have another big game next week, against our now below average D. It makes me sick to my stomach watching the way we play.

Look at the Steelers... They had the number one ranked D the last two years, yards per game wise. No matter who they bring in, their D always play at a top 10 level. Why? Because they play an aggressive and attacking style, like the Ravens use to play. Peas has killed ravens football. It was evident last year, when he made Ray drop all that weight so he could try to cover tight ends better. Kind to think of it, Peas probably is the main reason Ray retired. Ray must have knew that, the physical Ravens defense as we know it is gone and he didn't want to stick around for the down years, with good old Ben and Jerry in charge. Looking at how the D played in 2011 (under Pagano) compared to 2012 is like night and day. Do you really think that the same players that played lights out in 2011, is all of a sudden bums? I don't think so. Ray Lewis in 2011 was a feared and intimidating force at 260 pounds in the middle for us. Last year under Peas and after losing so much weight, Ray looked like he should have retired 5 years ago.

The same for Ed Reed. He was one of the best cover safeties in the league in 2011. Last year, he couldn't cover a bed with a blanket. Under Deen, our D play on it's heels, when in years past, the offense that played against our D, was the ones playing on their heels. Peas is the root of the Ravens problems. Even though the offense had it's hiccups against Denver, they still did exactly what they did during last years playoff run, which was move the ball up and down the field (393 total yards), score enough points to win (27), while misfiring on a few plays. Look at how things played out... The main guys who struggled in the passing game, Clark, Dickson, and Stokley, were getting open all night, they just didn't hold on to the ball, or Joe over threw the ball. They executed well, in terms of everyone doing their job (receivers getting open, good protection, Joe making the right read, etc.), they just misfired once they ball was in the air. Once Joe and the WR's get in sink, this offense is going to be good. Yes, we probably could use another receiver, and we probably need to run the ball more, but that isn't the main problem for the Ravens. It's Deen Peas.

The numbers and what we see every week don't lie. Our D gave up over 500 yards and 7 td passes from Manning.

Deen Peas is the teams Achilles heel and as long as he is the defensive coordinator, our offense will have to score at least 30 points every game to have a chance to win. It's sad because we go from, "If we can hold a team to 20 points or less, we'll win", to, "I hope we can score 40 cause if we don't, we're in trouble". Face it guys, we won the super bowl last year, in spite of Peas. If we didn't have two of the best players in the history of the game at their respective positions on D (even if they were at the back end of their careers), our D would have been much worse.

Peas don't play to his players strengths, like our other coordinators did. Having guys like Cary Williams and J. Smith play 10 yards off of WR, when they are more the bump and run, physical type corners is one example. The team should get rid of this guy ASAP! I can almost guarantee you that the worse is yet to come. One thing is for sure... Dean Peas has to go! The city of Baltimore and all Ravens fans deserves better than this. What I've seen from the D since this guy took over isn't Ravens football. Let's hope someone in the front office quickly come to their senses and get rid of Ben before this season is lost.

 

 

[Purple Nurple]

I'm not reading all that. Thanks for playing though. ;)

[1/28/01]

Yay

[RavensPunkXVX]

Tell me about it. I can't believe Pees missed all of those tackles and they way he got beat on every passing down? Wow. Get Pees outta here. 

[GrimCoconut]

It's not on the defense when you have bad field position and when you can convert or move the chains. Eventually the best defenses get gassed.

[RavensFanMvp]

It's not on the defense when you have bad field position and when you can convert or move the chains. Eventually the best defenses get gassed.

How come our team could over come all these factors in years past and still not get torched defensively, but when Peas take over, we have to play without error?

[ravens_4life]

lengthy, but i read it all. i have to say you are right and nice stats to back it up. i am not fond on pees either but lets see how it plays out. remember football has changed since then to. its more of a passing leauge. the rules have impacted the game big time. granted we need to tighten things up i agree, and history shows we will. we have spags on the team now the old giants d-coord. you think hes there for no reason. caldwell was here last year when cam was offense coord. cam was getting booed and what happened cam got canned and caldwell took over. baltimore is not going to go through that again. if pees continues this he will be gone and spags will take over. i want that to happen. i am a big spags fan, that guy will bring purple chaos back to baltimore.

[GrimCoconut]

How come our team could over come all these factors in years past and still not get torched defensively, but when Peas take over, we have to play without error?

Pees had a skeleton crew last year and was missing many pieces. This is one game and it was plagued by an inept offense and a return game and ST play that was very poor. Last year we have a very good ST and the offense had great chemistry.

[SeaHawk]

Dang, that's much worse than even Mattison, and that's pretty pathetic. You think Pags would've had that bad of a D, even with an aging group of players?? Heck no.

[Bltravens]

Dang, that's much worse than even Mattison, and that's pretty pathetic. You think Pags would've had that bad of a D, even with an aging group of players?? Heck no.

Mattison was never as bad as people thought he was.

[GrimCoconut]

Anyway, after reading what you said I do want to say that I'm not fond of Pees so far but I can't just say fire the guy yet. If he doesn't improve with the talent he has then he should be gone but give him time.

[RavensFanMvp]

lengthy, but i read it all. i have to say you are right and nice stats to back it up. i am not fond on pees either but lets see how it plays out. remember football has changed since then to. its more of a passing leauge. the rules have impacted the game big time. granted we need to tighten things up i agree, and history shows we will. we have spags on the team now the old giants d-coord. you think hes there for no reason. caldwell was here last year when cam was offense coord. cam was getting booed and what happened cam got canned and caldwell took over. baltimore is not going to go through that again. if pees continues this he will be gone and spags will take over. i want that to happen. i am a big spags fan, that guy will bring purple chaos back to baltimore.

I took that into consideration before I posted, but then it hit me... We had an elite defense the year before Peas took over. So the question I ask is... have the league and rules changed that much from 2011 to 2012? 

 

I don't think so. Peas is the common denominator and he's going to destory the feared reputation we've built over the last 10 years on D.

[The Raven]

I love blaming coordinators for things like missed tackles, blown assignments, bad coverage, and overall piss-poor secondary play.

[RavensFanMvp]

I love blaming coordinators for things like missed tackles, blown assignments, bad coverage, and overall piss-poor secondary play.

Yeah I know right... just like I love blaming coordinators for dropped passes, receivers not getting open, bad blocking, *cough, Cam Cameron...

[GrimCoconut]

I love blaming coordinators for things like missed tackles, blown assignments, bad coverage, and overall piss-poor secondary play.

Yeah. My biggest gripe right now with the defense is our redzone defense. It needs to improve

[SeaHawk]

Yeah I know right... just like I love blaming coordinators for dropped passes, receivers not getting open, bad blocking, *cough, Cam Cameron...

 

Hey, all I know is, we fired Cameron, and our offense immediately sprang to life last year in the playoffs and we went on a Super Bowl run. I don't mind giving him most of the blame for holding the offense back.

[The Raven]

Yeah I know right... just like I love blaming coordinators for dropped passes, receivers not getting open, bad blocking, *cough, Cam Cameron...

 

I've never seen you around here before but I can already tell you're a character... 

 

Maybe if Huff played like he had a set and Corey Graham wasn't the human incarnation of King Softee ice cream, we wouldn't have missed so many tackles. 

[RavensFanMvp]

Hey, all I know is, we fired Cameron, and our offense immediately sprang to life last year in the playoffs and we went on a Super Bowl run. I don't mind giving him most of the blame for holding the offense back.

Well why can't Peas take the blame for the defense not playing up to par then? Look at the numbers. Outside of the 96 season, you can combine any two seasons and the numbers still won't be as bad, all across the board then Peas defensive numbers for one season!

[The Raven]

Well why can't Peas take the blame for the defense not playing up to par then? Look at the numbers. Outside of the 96 season, you can combine any two seasons and the numbers still won't be as bad, all across the board then Peas defensive numbers for one season!

 

Two reasons:

 

1. In the late 90's and early 2000's, it was far from common to see an offense score more than 30. Offenses score more these days. It's unfair and senseless to compare a defense today to a defense ten years ago.

 

2. Our secondary played like poo. That's not on Pees. 

[Puntit]

Mattison was never as bad as people thought he was.

Actually Mattison IMHO often wasn't impressive with even better players. He had a healthy Lewis, Reed, Ngata and Suggs a lot of the time and the result still wasn't always pretty. Fans were calling for his head far more than for Peas. I think Peas is far superior to Mattison due to the talent they have had on their respective teams. Peas is good, but he's no Rex or Pags, and the players we have now aren't Lewis or Reed (yet).

 

While I agree that the defense was a bit vanilla for my taste, bear in mind that Manning releases the ball so fast that its hard to hurry him. His speed at getting rid of the ball basically takes our front line (which is solid) largely out of the game. Denver wasn't running on us like some teams did last year, so that's an immediate noticable improvement. Jimmy Smith looked much improved (give or take the stupid penalty). Webb seemed to be back to form. So a lot of things actually went right on defense that weren't reflected in the final score.

 

What didn't work, and hopefully Peas will address this, that Graham isn't a good enough corner to be covering the better receivers like Welker without some better safety help, and our safeties (particularly Huff) don't seem to be able to lay down a real tackle. If Huff can't improve and fast, he needs to be used as a backup corner and get Elam out there, maybe bring Omar Brown up from the PS. If Graham doesn't step it up like last year, I'm not sure he has a job once Jackson comes off of suspension.

I think bad secondary execution (by Huff and Graham) and Mannings quick release made our defense look bad -- the play calling didn't really make much of a difference given those two hurdles. You aren't going to do much if the QB doesn't hang onto the ball and your secondary isn't doing its job, no matter what the call.

[RavensFanMvp]

I've never seen you around here before but I can already tell you're a character... 

 

Maybe if Huff played like he had a set and Corey Graham wasn't the human incarnation of King Softee ice cream, we wouldn't have missed so many tackles. 

I brought facts to the table with my arguement, yet you shoot it down because I don't post here much. lmao! Anytime a coordinator scheme can make Ray Lewis and Ed Reed look like they shouldn't belong in the league, you know something is wrong.

 

And don't say that both these guys were old, because just the season before, these "old guys", looked like pro bowlers.

[SeaHawk]

Well why can't Peas take the blame for the defense not playing up to par then? Look at the numbers. Outside of the 96 season, you can combine any two seasons and the numbers still won't be as bad, all across the board then Peas defensive numbers for one season!

 

I am giving Pees the blame, as are some others on here. Sure, there were missed tackles, but there was also a noticeable abundance of miscommunication, and we hardly played press coverage, if at all. That's coaching, bad coaching, but still coaching. Am I willing to give him a few more weeks before I completely throw him under the bus?? Sure. He did have a cast of castaways and old players last year, and he just went up against the best offense in the NFL in his first week dealing with pretty much a new D. So there are excuses for him right now, but they'll quickly run out if he keeps this crap up.

[SeaHawk]

For the love of everything holy and green... can we PLEASE stop calling him "Peas" and instead call him "Pees".. you know, his real name?? lol.

[RavensFanMvp]

Two reasons:

 

1. In the late 90's and early 2000's, it was far from common to see an offense score more than 30. Offenses score more these days. It's unfair and senseless to compare a defense today to a defense ten years ago.

 

2. Our secondary played like poo. That's not on Pees. 

Dude I understand that. You're just twisting things to favor your argument. Let's not go back that far... what about the 2011 season? We only gave up 30 points ONE time. Then the following year, we're giving up 30 as if it's the norm around here. Your argument is not valid.

[RavensFanMvp]

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[The Raven]

I brought facts to the table with my arguement, yet you shoot it down because I don't post here much. lmao! Anything a coordinator scheme can make Ray Lewis and Ed Reed look like they shouldn't belong in the league, you know something is wrong.

 

And don't say that both these guys were old, because just the season before, these "old guys", looked like pro bowlers.

 

I didn't shoot it down because you don't post here much. Can you read? Guess not, because that's not what I said. I just observed that you're an interesting character.

 

And sorry, a coordinator can not make a scheme to make Ray faster or Reed a better tackler. That's not scheme. That's, again, on the players.

[RavensFanMvp]

For the love of everything holy and green... can we PLEASE stop calling him "Peas" and instead call him "Pees".. you know, his real name?? lol.

Ok... Pees it is ;)

[The Raven]

Dude I understand that. You're just twisting things to favor your argument. Let's not go back that far... what about the 2011 season? We only gave up 30 points ONE time. Then the following year, we're giving up 30 as if it's the norm around here. Your arguement is not valid.

 

I'm not twisting things. I'm using facts to support my argument. You're just hurt it goes against yours.

 

We gave up 30 points ONE time in 2011 because we had the DPOY, a healthy and not yet washed up Ray Lewis, a healthy Reed, a healthy Ngata, and the best CB in the league in Webb. That year, we had depth, talent, and we were not injured. There's more evidence and logic for ya. 

 

In 2012, we were injured. We had no depth. We had little talent.

[SeaHawk]

I'm not twisting things. I'm using facts to support my argument. You're just hurt it goes against yours.

 

We gave up 30 points ONE time in 2011 because we had the DPOY, a healthy and not yet washed up Ray Lewis, a healthy Reed, a healthy Ngata, and the best CB in the league in Webb. That year, we had depth, talent, and we were not injured. There's more evidence and logic for ya. 

 

In 2012, we were injured. We had no depth. We had little talent.

 

Though he wasn't out nearly as much as he was last year, Lewis was injured in 2011. He ended up missing a few games, including the Thanksgiving game versus the 49ers. Just wanted to point that out.

 

Carry on lol

[The Raven]

Though he wasn't out nearly as much as he was last year, Lewis was injured in 2011. He ended up missing a few games, including the Thanksgiving game versus the 49ers. Just wanted to point that out.

 

Carry on lol

 

He missed four games and was otherwise healthy.

 

Carrying on lol