Matt Elam

[The Oakland Cathedral]

Did you know you're measuring him with his cleats on.

Did you know you play with cleats on?

[hawkprey]

Dean Pees is dying for Jimmy to play press. He flat out said it in a presser to the media.
 
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Transcripts-Monday-Practice/f1d535fe-04bc-4fdb-8ecc-3ddf78d5b2cc

That was after the Atlanta game.

Yes, then he played press against Carolina and had a very good game. There's an outside chance that he's solved his problem just like that.

 

On one play vs Denver he was in off coverage and didn't fall for a double-move. That's a good sign too.

[berad]

Yes, then he played press against Carolina and had a very good game. There's an outside chance that he's solved his problem just like that.
 
On one play vs Denver he was in off coverage and didn't fall for a double-move. That's a good sign too.

I hope but we have said these things about Jimmy since he was drafted. My biggest issue with him is the inconsistency.

[Poes Crows]

Did you know you play with cleats on?

 

Yeah, that's certainly true, but the cleats sink into the Poly or Turf and you're back to your actual size and 5 foot 8 and 3/4 inches is too small for an effective Safety especially when he plays like Professor Smith in the Television Series, "Lost in Space".

 

Sergio Kindell

Courtney Upshaw

Matt Elam

 

Want to see a real prospect. Check out the game tape on Eric Reid over at San Francisco. That's a Safety with Potential.  The Niners are cleaning our clock when it comes to personnel.

 

I don't know what else to say on this topic

[Sami84]

yeah. i think ozzies best work was in the late 90's  . 

 

lets see post 2003

 

ngata elite

grubbs elite

yanda elite

rice v good

flacco good

webb elite

pitta  good

torrey good

 

the rest havent met expectations.

[Sami84]

Yeah, that's certainly true, but the cleats sink into the Poly or Turf and you're back to your actual size and 5 foot 8 and 3/4 inches is too small for an effective Safety especially when he plays like Professor Smith in the Television Series, "Lost in Space".

 

Sergio Kindell

Courtney Upshaw

Matt Elam

 

Want to see a real prospect. Check out the game tape on Eric Reid over at San Francisco. That's a Safety with Potential.  The Niners are cleaning our clock when it comes to personnel.

 

I don't know what else to say on this topic

i agree. elam looks smaler then troy whos listed at 5 10. 

[izvoodoo]

Yeah, that's certainly true, but the cleats sink into the Poly or Turf and you're back to your actual size and 5 foot 8 and 3/4 inches is too small for an effective Safety especially when he plays like Professor Smith in the Television Series, "Lost in Space".

 

Sergio Kindell

Courtney Upshaw

Matt Elam

 

Want to see a real prospect. Check out the game tape on Eric Reid over at San Francisco. That's a Safety with Potential.  The Niners are cleaning our clock when it comes to personnel.

 

I don't know what else to say on this topic

Oh yeah, Eric Reid is great.

 

He was also off the board...

 

Serious question, how old are you?

[Cville-Raven]

Did you know you play with cleats on?

LOL IKR and cleats dont equal 2"

[Poes Crows]

Oh yeah, Eric Reid is great.

 

He was also off the board...

 

Serious question, how old are you?

 

 

Off whose Board?

 

If Eric Reid wasn't the Top Safety on the Raven Board, that's consistent with my overall point that we've not evaluated talent accurately lately.  Either our in house talent or prospective talent through the draft.  And that may be a product of age or advancing age. How else can you explain these current lapses???

[Cville-Raven]

Off whose Board?

 

If Eric Reid wasn't the Top Safety on the Raven Board, that's consistent with my overall point that we've not evaluated talent accurately lately.  Either our in house talent or prospective talent through the draft.  And that may be a product of age or advancing age. How else can you explain these current lapses???

 

[ratedr]

Off whose Board?

If Eric Reid wasn't the Top Safety on the Raven Board, that's consistent with my overall point that we've not evaluated talent accurately lately. Either our in house talent or prospective talent through the draft. And that may be a product of age or advancing age. How else can you explain these current lapses???

Eric Reid wasn't the top safety on any board I saw.

[izvoodoo]

Off whose Board?

 

If Eric Reid wasn't the Top Safety on the Raven Board, that's consistent with my overall point that we've not evaluated talent accurately lately.  Either our in house talent or prospective talent through the draft.  And that may be a product of age or advancing age. How else can you explain these current lapses???

He was the 16th pick in the draft.

 

Off

The

Board

 

He had been picked before we drafted

 

You know who else is good?

 

Patrick Peterson

The fifth pick in that years draft.

[Cville-Raven]

Eric Reid wasn't the top safety on any board I saw.

You're absolutely right. I had him even below Shark thomas who pittsburgh drafted. Everyone is going to overeact to one game. 

[ratedr]

You're absolutely right. I had him even below Shark thomas who pittsburgh drafted. Everyone is going to overeact to one game.

Pretty sure the consensus top safety was Vaccaro who was drafted by New Orleans.

[izvoodoo]

You're absolutely right. I had him even below Shark thomas who pittsburgh drafted. Everyone is going to overeact to one game. 

That's a little bit unfair.  Reid has played very well all preseason and played well in Sundays game.  Looks like a good player.  Had a really good sophomore season at LSU.  But in his infinite wisdom he's mad we didn't take a player who got drafted 16 picks before us.

[Cville-Raven]

Pretty sure the consensus top safety was Vaccaro who was drafted by New Orleans.

yeah he was

[Cville-Raven]

That's a little bit unfair.  Reid has played very well all preseason and played well in Sundays game.  Looks like a good player.  Had a really good sophomore season at LSU.  But in his infinite wisdom he's mad we didn't take a player who got drafted 16 picks before us.

Yeah but is his play enough to just completely make the player we took in the first round a bust; hell freaking no. Seems he doesnt know how the draft works. 

[Ravenslifer]

Off whose Board?

 

If Eric Reid wasn't the Top Safety on the Raven Board, that's consistent with my overall point that we've not evaluated talent accurately lately.  Either our in house talent or prospective talent through the draft.  And that may be a product of age or advancing age. How else can you explain these current lapses???

 

We drafted at pick 32.  Eric Reid was taken at pick 18.  And to do it San Fran gave up their 3rd rounder - so you're advocating giving up both Elam and Brandon Williams for Eric Reid.  For all we know we could have had Eric Reid rated higher than Elam.  I'm pretty sure we had Luke Joekel ranked higher than Elam also.

[Poes Crows]

He was the 16th pick in the draft.

 

Off

The

Board

 

He had been picked before we drafted

 

You know who else is good?

 

Patrick Peterson

The fifth pick in that years draft.

 

Yes, he was rated as low as the 4th best safety and the Niners moved up to snag him and he's playing very well.  They are making all the right moves.

 

We selected Matt Elam and he can't break into the starting group.

 

Its not just Matt Elam though. Our First Round picks have not dazzled for a number of years.

[rmw10]

Yes, he was rated as low as the 4th best safety and the Niners moved up to snag him and he's playing very well.  They are making all the right moves.

 

We selected Matt Elam and he can't break into the starting group.

 

Its not just Matt Elam though. Our First Round picks have not dazzled for a number of years.

 

Seriously?  There's no way you're a fan of this team.  It's all doom and gloom with you.  You seem to forget that we've been a perennial playoff contender.  But hey, one bad game must mean that the FO is losing grip and a change must be made, right?

[izvoodoo]

Yes, he was rated as low as the 4th best safety and the Niners moved up to snag him and he's playing very well.  They are making all the right moves.

 

We selected Matt Elam and he can't break into the starting group.

 

Its not just Matt Elam though. Our First Round picks have not dazzled for a number of years.

Dude,

it's a game.

 

but agreed, the drafting has been subpar.  But it's hard to fault Ozzie for Sergio.  Dude broke his skull, it's just a freak accident. But his first OTA before the accident he could really get after it, looked like a good pick.

 

EDIT: really the only bad pick is Jimmy Smith.

But it's not as bad as AJ jenkins.

Drafted by the 49ers.

 

Who are just the best thing since sliced bread.

[Ravenslifer]

Yes, he was rated as low as the 4th best safety and the Niners moved up to snag him and he's playing very well.  They are making all the right moves.

 

We selected Matt Elam and he can't break into the starting group.

 

Its not just Matt Elam though. Our First Round picks have not dazzled for a number of years.

 

 

You're also forgetting the Niners had a bounty of extra draft picks they got to play with - I think they had 13 picks, so of course they could afford to burn several to target players they wanted.  We had only 11 picks, and 4 of them were non-tradeable comps.

[Cville-Raven]

Seriously?  There's no way you're a fan of this team.  It's all doom and gloom with you.  You seem to forget that we've been a perennial playoff contender.  But hey, one bad game must mean that the FO is losing grip and a change must be made, right?

Debbie Downers all in this thread

[rmw10]

Debbie Downers all in this thread

 

For Matt Elam of all people.  The guy has had 1 career game.  Is he a bust now or something?

[Cville-Raven]

For Matt Elam of all people.  The guy has had 1 career game.  Is he a bust now or something?

I'll have to ask Tavon Austin what he thinks. Didnt you hear? If a Rook cant start by week one then they are a bust. Therefore Torrey Smith=Bust....... :eyes:

[Ravenslifer]

Actually I think word on him from Raiders' camp was he was a solid coverage guy but always trying to arm tackle and whiffing as we saw last night.

 

Really?  Because I remember when we signed him they did a comparison of how many missed tackles he had compared to Ed over the last few seasons, and Huff came out very favorably.  That was my impression.

[PuRock]

Seriously?  There's no way you're a fan of this team.  It's all doom and gloom with you.  You seem to forget that we've been a perennial playoff contender.  But hey, one bad game must mean that the FO is losing grip and a change must be made, right?

 

I'm pretty confident he's a 9ers fans, trolling because his team lost the SB to us.  

[Cville-Raven]

I'm pretty confident he's a 9ers fans, trolling because his team lost the SB to us.  

:th_327321_Spy_23x22:

[izvoodoo]

I'm pretty confident he's a 9ers fans, trolling because his team lost the SB to us.  

I'm like 90% sure of that too.  But in his defense Eric Reid looks like a really impactful player for them.  He had almost no negative elements in that game.

[Cville-Raven]

I'm like 90% sure of that too.  But in his defense Eric Reid looks like a really impactful player for them.  He had almost no negative elements in that game.

Key word is them