Matt Elam

[gabefergy]

Actually it's what they use to do to slaves to break their will.  See the letter of Willie lynch as a point of reference. 

Tar and feathering is not a racial thing at all. It was used to publicly ridicule people no matter their race.

[Moderator 3]

According to wiki: Tarring and feathering is a physical punishment and a form of torture, used to enforce unofficial justice or revenge. It was used in feudal Europe and its colonies in the early modern period, as well as the early American frontier, mostly as a type of mob vengeance (compare Lynch law).

Now can we please get back to football?

[blitzking33]

The whole reason why I (and I bunch of other people) were excited about Huff was that he wasn't supposed to miss any tackles, something that Reed did left and right.

If Huff keeps playing like this, I might regret letting Ed go.

So it was you who made the decision to not resign Ed... I blame you for everything bad that happened last night :p

[T3hRaven]

Matt Elam is a 

 

gamer

he's a baller

he's a play maker

and a shot caller

 

 

UNLEASH MATT ELAM

 

Don't ever quote that man SAM.  It's asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve.

[Guest RBates]

According to wiki: Tarring and feathering is a physical punishment and a form of torture, used to enforce unofficial justice or revenge. It was used in feudal Europe and its colonies in the early modern period, as well as the early American frontier, mostly as a type of mob vengeance (compare Lynch law).

Now can we please get back to football?

It was only two comments and it went over rather nicely. Not sure why mob vengeance wouldn't be considered insensitive.  

 

But back to football.  Huff is not the safety I would like to see on the back end.  Working on his speed in the offseason and not tackling was a huge mistake. 

[SecretAgentMan]

Don't ever quote that man SAM.  It's asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve.

Matt Elam is a stud tho :P

 

 

Give him credit for that lol

[T3hRaven]

So it was you who made the decision to not resign Ed... I blame you for everything bad that happened last night :P

 

In all likelihood, Reed won't even be on the field this week.  Assuming he would be as bad as he's been the past two years, what exactly did you expect him to do in this game?  He wouldn't have been able to tackle, he showed that last year, and the play of the entire secondary was an organizational failure that no one man could have fixed on his own.  He's not that player anymore, Reed isn't even a fraction of that player anymore.  And his on again off again retirement talk, injuries, and antics should have been removed the last time he was extended.

[T3hRaven]

Matt Elam is a stud tho :P

 

 

Give him credit for that lol

 

The man hasn't started a single game.  When I see it I'll be excited, but you guys aren't talking me into liking anyone ever again.  It's bad enough that happened with Jimmy Smith.

[flaccopoe]

I like Elam as a SS, as he can hit HARD.  Though, he's versatile enough to play FS too.

[SecretAgentMan]

I like Elam as a SS, as he can hit HARD.  Though, he's versatile enough to play FS too.

Safeties are interchangeable nowadays.

 

Not much of a difference between FS and SS

[T3hRaven]

Safeties are interchangeable nowadays.

 

Not much of a difference between FS and SS

 

That's not entirely true, it depends on your scheme and the players you have.  I wouldn't trust a guy like Bernard Pollard being the single high safety in coverage.

[SecretAgentMan]

That's not entirely true, it depends on your scheme and the players you have.  I wouldn't trust a guy like Bernard Pollard being the single high safety in coverage.

That's true... But for our purposes we have a safety that was supposedly talented enough coming out of college to play either position.

 

 

But Pollard was BAD in coverage lol

[flaccopoe]

Safeties are interchangeable nowadays.

 

Not much of a difference between FS and SS

 

Glad to see you're back.  How did you feel about Huff?

[SecretAgentMan]

Glad to see you're back.  How did you feel about Huff?

*insert amazing amounts of profanity here*

 

 

That's how I feel

[Ravensfanspls]

Haven't read most of the thread. But all i can say is you don't spend a first round pick on a special teams guy. Someone with talent like Elam should be starting no doubt about it.

[easternshore97]

Haven't read most of the thread. But all i can say is you don't spend a first round pick on a special teams guy. Someone with talent like Elam should be starting no doubt about it.

WOW. Very well articulated

[ratedr]

Haven't read most of the thread. But all i can say is you don't spend a first round pick on a special teams guy. Someone with talent like Elam should be starting no doubt about it.

We always do this nonsense to. I remember Jimmy Smith being injured in his first game ever as a rookie on a punt return, time he could've spent developing at CB.

[RavensFan34950]

It seems like Huff forgot how to play safety because he's probably still use to playing corner. So my suggestion? Play Huff at corner over Graham ( can't do much worse than him), and start Elam at safety.  I could see success with that line up.

[Bltravens]

That's not entirely true, it depends on your scheme and the players you have.  I wouldn't trust a guy like Bernard Pollard being the single high safety in coverage.

But Pollard would annihilate someone no matter their size.  I miss that.  If we're going to get torched in the secondary anyways we may as well start Elam and Ihedigbo and start knocking receivers out, 15 yard penalties be damned.  Eventually those guys wont want to go over the middle anymore.

[msufan]

I want our coaches to really put emphasis on building him up to speed asap. Guranteed another team w/ elam wouldve been starting.

yeah but it seems with our coaches that rookies have to show that they can start, and are not just handed the job.

[The Raven]

yeah but it seems with our coaches that rookies have to show that they can start, and are not just handed the job.

 

Yeah, that's how good football teams operate. Rookies and young players play special teams until they develop into starters. That's just how it works. I hate when people complain about it because it's senseless. Gotta earn your stripes.

[T3hRaven]

But Pollard would annihilate someone no matter their size.  I miss that.  If we're going to get torched in the secondary anyways we may as well start Elam and Ihedigbo and start knocking receivers out, 15 yard penalties be damned.  Eventually those guys wont want to go over the middle anymore.

 

I don't.  It's nice not giving someone another 15 yards because someone can't control themselves on the field.  The league is moving away from that, as illustrated by that ridiculous Bostic fine, so it's time for people to get over the big hit.

[blitzking33]

If I remember correctly, Upshaw didn't see major playing time until week 2 last year against Philly..

 

I expect to see Elam a lot more next week.

 

[Ravenseconbeast]

Yeah, that's how good football teams operate. Rookies and young players play special teams until they develop into starters. That's just how it works. I hate when people complain about it because it's senseless. Gotta earn your stripes.

I understand what you are saying...but thats not really the case here. Most of these 'vets' arent veterans of our team at all. They are just as inexperienced and susceptible to making mistakes as much as the young guys in our organization. They just simply have more mileage on them, but havent proved anything to our organization.

Just look @ the list:

Stokley, Clark, Dickson, Huff, Diggs, Josh Bynes vs.

Matt Furst, Mellette, Elam, Marlon Brown, Arthur Brown

Have those 'vets' earned their stripes to take the starter reps over our young players? Doubt it.

[The Raven]

I understand what you are saying...but thats not really the case here. Most of these 'vets' arent veterans of our team at all. They are just as inexperienced and susceptible to making mistakes as much as the young guys in our organization. They just simply have more mileage on them, but havent proved anything to our organization.

Just look @ the list:

Stokley, Clark, Dickson, Huff, Diggs, Josh Bynes vs.

Matt Furst, Mellette, Elam, Marlon Brown, Arthur Brown

Have those 'vets' earned their stripes to take the starter reps over our young players? Doubt it.

 

Lol, yeah, they have. They've been in the league longer, so they have more experience. Therefore, they should be starters until the young'uns prove that they are capable. That's how football works. the only two positions there that I question are Bynes over Brown and Diggs over Elam. However, I understand both. 

[Ravenseconbeast]

Lol, yeah, they have. They've been in the league longer, so they have more experience. Therefore, they should be starters until the young'uns prove that they are capable. That's how football works. the only two positions there that I question are Bynes over Brown and Diggs over Elam. However, I understand both.

Not with us.

[GrimCoconut]

Not with us.

So you're saying team tenure overrides league experiences? That's pretty myopic. So you're saying that when we traded for Boldin that Mark Clayton should've started above him due to team tenure?

[Sami84]

urrr dude boldin was a proven pro bowl wr. one of the best. elam and brown are unproven rookies. having said that i think we need them to start.

[Ravenseconbeast]

So you're saying team tenure overrides league experiences? That's pretty myopic. So you're saying that when we traded for Boldin that Mark Clayton should've started above him due to team tenure?

Maybe you misunderstood.

What im saying is.. if you have young guys that looks promising -- you should give those guys the opportunity instead old, medicore vets that has to learn the new system. To me, i'd rather take a chance on them instead of giving the old 'new vets' all these reps. There is no fruition if they are not playing well.

[Cville-Raven]

Let him loose, he shatters the mold