Matt Elam

[ratedr]

You mean to tell me that Peyton Manning made a safety look bad? Katy bar the door!

Peyton had a perfect passer rating against him.

I know he's Peyton but that's unacceptable.

[Ravenseconbeast]

You mean to tell me that Peyton Manning made a safety look bad? Katy bar the door!

7 TD -0 int 480 yards 'history making record' bad

[TheSim]

Peyton had a perfect passer rating against him.

I know he's Peyton but that's unacceptable.

Without knowing what plays were called, there's no way to accurately know that. You can look at who's chasing the receiver but that doesn't mean that was his responsibility. And again, it's one game against the best regular-season QB in the league. Maybe Elam deserves a shot, maybe he doesn't, I'm just going to wait and see what the coaches decide after they've watched the tape. Sitting here demanding that certain players are cut or benched or whatever is just ridiculous. We're fans. We can criticize people's play, for instance, I can say "Michael Huff got confused on several plays and didn't seem to know where to go in zone coverage" without then demanding that he be tarred and feathered.

[Corvus]

My issue with Huff is that he failed to do the one thing that was always promoted about him: tackle. I didn't expect the coverage and instincts of Reed, I just wanted a balanced FS. Yes, Julius and Demaryius are big guys but come the [profanity deleted] on, man. Getting dragged around like a little girl is ridiculous.

Actually I think word on him from Raiders' camp was he was a solid coverage guy but always trying to arm tackle and whiffing as we saw last night.

[TheSim]

7 TD -0 int 480 yards 'history making record' bad

Well then by that measure I guess we have to bench the entire defense. We all know it was bad. There's no sense in acting like this is the first time the defense has been torn apart by a Hall of Fame QB. The defensive line played well. The offense couldn't get first downs in the 3rd quarter and the defense was clearly gassed (mile-high stadium, anybody?), and Peyton took advantage. His WRs also made a ridiculously high number of difficult catches. The kind that Flacco's receivers didn't make. That was the difference in this game.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Well then by that measure I guess we have to bench the entire defense. We all know it was bad. There's no sense in acting like this is the first time the defense has been torn apart by a Hall of Fame QB. The defensive line played well. The offense couldn't get first downs in the 3rd quarter and the defense was clearly gassed (mile-high stadium, anybody?), and Peyton took advantage. His WRs also made a ridiculously high number of difficult catches. The kind that Flacco's receivers didn't make. That was the difference in this game.

Yep, plenty of blame to go around. I have faith we'll get it done. Just need to clean out the trash. Cant leave the dump on open field and expect championships...

[ravensdan]

Our secondary had huge communication issues thd entire night. Throwing a rookie in against manning at his sharpest would have done nothing but shake his confidence. He will be eased in slowly. I don't know why anyone thought he was going to or should start? This secondary needs to get in sync. The poor browns team should be a good remedy. Although I don't expect it to be smoothed out completely for a few weeks.

[SeaHawk]

Manning was fired up for revenge. When you have one of the greatest QB's ever fired up for revenge, what usually happens?? Big game from them. I mean, come on, I don't think any D could've fully held in check what we witnessed last night. I mean think about it. Manning, the best regular season QB period, out for revenge against pretty much a whole new D. Manning, fired up, has 3 pro bowl receivers to throw to, along with a darned good TE that will be a future star. Manning, fired up, with all of his toys, along with a stout O-Line keeping pressure off him. Who the heck stops that?? It may be controversial, but I don't even think our 2000 D would've had much of a shot at stopping that from going off.

[Bravens292]

I was going into the game hoping Elam and Brown would start this game but I get the decision to start the vets against peyton and that game is over now. Clearly those 2 need to be playing from here on. Bynes and Huff did nothing to change my mind.

[Guest RBates]

Without knowing what plays were called, there's no way to accurately know that. You can look at who's chasing the receiver but that doesn't mean that was his responsibility. And again, it's one game against the best regular-season QB in the league. Maybe Elam deserves a shot, maybe he doesn't, I'm just going to wait and see what the coaches decide after they've watched the tape. Sitting here demanding that certain players are cut or benched or whatever is just ridiculous. We're fans. We can criticize people's play, for instance, I can say "Michael Huff got confused on several plays and didn't seem to know where to go in zone coverage" without then demanding that he be tarred and feathered.

Can we stop using this ?  It's a little insensitive. 

[T3hRaven]

Ihedigbo, like this week.

I thought Ihedigbo played fine.

 

Cosell says he's not a starting player, and I tend to believe the film guru.  Ihedigbo was partly responsible on at least two of those TDs last night, but that being said he was serviceable last night.  Huff was the real problem, and I'm guessing we'll see more rotation and different looks back there in the coming weeks.  I thought more snaps and rotation was part of the plan anyway, so it was odd to see Elam basically get shelved until garbage time.

 

I think linebacker is a bigger problem.  Daryl Smith got beat a bit in coverage, and Bynes was horrible.  We brought in Arthur Brown because he was a better coverage linebacker that what we had, but we didn't utilize our players skillsets and that's what's most frustrating.

 

Part of me wants to believe John tanked this game to get our players focused.

[jimjim5]

Can we stop using this ?  It's a little insensitive. 

 

OT - How so? it's a well-known expression. A cliche, if you will.

[gabefergy]

Cosell says he's not a starting player, and I tend to believe the film guru.  Ihedigbo was partly responsible on at least two of those TDs last night, but that being said he was serviceable last night.  Huff was the real problem, and I'm guessing we'll see more rotation and different looks back there in the coming weeks.  I thought more snaps and rotation was part of the plan anyway, so it was odd to see Elam basically get shelved until garbage time.

 

I think linebacker is a bigger problem.  Daryl Smith got beat a bit in coverage, and Bynes was horrible.  We brought in Arthur Brown because he was a better coverage linebacker that what we had, but we didn't utilize our players skillsets and that's what's most frustrating.

 

Part of me wants to believe John tanked this game to get our players focused.

I agree about Bynes. He didnt belong on the field. Put King Arthur out there and never look back.

[T3hRaven]

I agree about Bynes. He didnt belong on the field. Put King Arthur out there and never look back.

 

Was he getting nickel looks like they said he was supposed to?  There was so much crap going on that I didn't pay attention to such things.

[gabefergy]

Was he getting nickel looks like they said he was supposed to?  There was so much crap going on that I didn't pay attention to such things.

Nope Bynes stayed in there for pretty much the whole game, he was bad in coverage so I wonder why he was left out there so much. I hope it is just a 1 game thing and we know the rookies are probably a better option.

[GrimCoconut]

I barely saw Arthur Brown playing. I'm a but irritated we didn't use him more on defense. Not sure why. I'm guessing because he's a rookie going against Peyton.

[codizzle]

First game of the year.. Harbs always goes with the vets..

Nothing new here

[T3hRaven]

I barely saw Arthur Brown playing. I'm a but irritated we didn't use him more on defense. Not sure why. I'm guessing because he's a rookie going against Peyton.

 

Because we're scared to play rookies for some reason.  Most other teams expect rookies to come in and contribute, but not the Ravens.  I'm surprised we haven't tried to get Mason to come out of the nursing home so we can sit Marlon Brown.

[T3hRaven]

First game of the year.. Harbs always goes with the vets..

Nothing new here

 

He needs to do something new and get with the times.  I understand we're transitioning to an offensive football team, but sitting rookies when you need guys on those cheap 4 year deals to contribute in an large way to your team ain't gonna cut it.

[Guest RBates]

OT - How so? it's a well-known expression. A cliche, if you will.

Actually it's what they use to do to slaves to break their will.  See the letter of Willie lynch as a point of reference. 

[codizzle]

He needs to do something new and get with the times. I understand we're transitioning to an offensive football team, but sitting rookies when you need guys on those cheap 4 year deals to contribute in an large way to your team ain't gonna cut it.

Against Peyton.. I'm okay with it.. Obviously it didn't work out but I'd rather us ease Elam and brown into a starting role instead of forcing them to play every down from the start

Bynes is a good player.. Had a few rough plays last night

[jimjim5]

Actually it's what they use to do to slaves to break their will.  See the letter of Willie lynch as a point of reference. 

 

Right and wrong. Tar and feather dates before slavery back to the Middle Ages. Anyway, I don't see the correlation between Willie Lynch theory and a cliched phrase referring to trival stuff such as football. Oh, I am black by the way.

 

I respect your opinion though.

[Guest RBates]

Right and wrong. Tar and feather dates before slavery back to the Middle Ages. Anyway, I don't see the correlation between Willie Lynch theory and a cliched phrase referring to trival stuff such as football. Oh, I am black by the way.

 

I respect your opinion though.

Doesn't change a thing.  It's insensitive, but if you don't think so at least I asked.  

[SecretAgentMan]

Matt Elam is a 

 

gamer

he's a baller

he's a play maker

and a shot caller

 

 

UNLEASH MATT ELAM

[rmw10]

I barely saw Arthur Brown playing. I'm a but irritated we didn't use him more on defense. Not sure why. I'm guessing because he's a rookie going against Peyton.

 

I think I read that he got 5 (?) total defensive snaps last night.

[easternshore97]

Funny. I think I was the only one hoping we didn't sign Huff. And since we did, I expect him to pan out just fine. Everybody else who wanted us to sign Huff, now wants him to be next to the clipboard carrier.

 

I am all for Elam starting and if not starting, getting quality in-game reps. I just find it disconcerting that after week 1 people think we need to clean house. What would the backlash have been if Elam played and had a bad game I wonder

[easternshore97]

I barely saw Arthur Brown playing. I'm a but irritated we didn't use him more on defense. Not sure why. I'm guessing because he's a rookie going against Peyton.

I know it's not what you're saying, but the thought of fearing the idea of putting in a rookie because it's the Almighty Peyton Manning is just beyond absurd. Peyton Manning makes everybody look foolish. So if you're going to put anybody in, make sure your rookies get a chance to be baptized by the fire. Their trajectory is only going in one direction. They gotta learn how to play at some point and having them play 40 mins against 2nd and 3rd string St Louis Rams isn't going to get them to the level where they can make plays in and out.

 

That's the one thing I really dislike about our team. We don't put the young guys on the field enough. Marlon Brown getting a shot is totally uncharacteristic of this team. Patriots plug rookies in left and right and they do it consistently (i.e. Zach Sudfield)

[Militant X 1]

Elam got playing time in the 4th. Huff got benched if i'm not mistaken

keep him there!  lol!

 

~Mili

[display name]

Elam got playing time in the 4th. Huff got benched if i'm not mistaken

The whole reason why I (and I bunch of other people) were excited about Huff was that he wasn't supposed to miss any tackles, something that Reed did left and right.

If Huff keeps playing like this, I might regret letting Ed go.

[Brandon22]

ihedigbo better on ST we need our first draft pick to be getting all the reps he can