Update: WR Tandon Doss is back

[Tank 92]

You do need to be able to move and Stokley looked like he needed a mobility scooter.

 

Doss really couldn't perform worse than Stokley did against Denver. If he somehow does, then he's back out the door when Jones is back. If he performs better than Stokley, well then we've just upgraded arguably our worst player offensively that saw extensive snaps.

 

 

LOL! You're kinda' hard on Pops aren't you?

 

He was far from our "worst player" on offense. I'd give him a break as he's only 3 weeks off the street and got way more reps than expected. Maybe it takes a little longer to get those old legs moving!  Speed has never been one of his assets, but he can get open and catch which are 2 things Doss hasn't shown in his 4 years here. Tandon is a stop gap returning kicks, but I guess there is always hope that he has some sort of epiphany and pans out in the slot. We'll see.............

[gabefergy]

LOL! You're kinda' hard on Pops aren't you?

He was far from our "worst player" on offense. I'd give him a break as he's only 3 weeks off the street and got way more reps than expected. Maybe it takes a little longer to get those old legs moving! Speed has never been one of his assets, but he can get open and catch which are 2 things Doss hasn't shown in his 4 years here. Tandon is a stop gap returning kicks, but I guess there is always hope that he has some sort of epiphany and pans out in the slot. We'll see.............

Stokley is 37 years old. At the very least he is going to need to take some plays off. Doss is a different player, I didn't say better. You can go on blindly hating the guy all you want, but it helps the team if he can come in and be effective.

[Tank 92]

Stokley is 37 years old. At the very least he is going to need to take some plays off. Doss is a different player, I didn't say better. You can go on blindly hating the guy all you want, but it helps the team if he can come in and be effective.

 

 

 

Whoa back!  I don't hate Doss!   Never have, although I did lose patience and wasn't sad when he was released.  I sincerely hope he grabs this chance, succeeds and becomes The Man.  And you are absolutely correct. There's no way Brandon can be an every down player. But I do think Doss was resigned primarily for returns.

[jazz1988]

Nah, 12 catches for 207. He's a bum!

So was Brandon Stokley when he was here look how that turn out

[Tank 92]

So was Brandon Stokley when he was here look how that turn out

 

 

Stokley was far from being a bum when he first played here.  What gives you that idea?

[jazz1988]

Stokley was far from being a bum when he first played here.  What gives you that idea?

Stokley never really accomplish much as a raven if you look at his stats   and he had trouble stayiing healthy . I dont beleive he was a bum (honestly i didnt watch him play i was little kid not into football as much   then) but numbers dont lie he really wasnt  that good here as a raven . He produce average numbers  and for a fourth round pick i doubt he lived up to the expectatation of the ravens

[BMORElegacy]

I follow the team pretty closely and I have no idea who that is. I must've completely missed him during training camp and the preseason.

Same. I know every starter and most of the 53 and PS... I've never heard of him. 

[Tank 92]

Stokley never really accomplish much as a raven if you look at his stats   and he had trouble stayiing healthy . I dont beleive he was a bum (honestly i didnt watch him play i was little kid not into football as much   then) but numbers dont lie he really wasnt  that good here as a raven . He produce average numbers  and for a fourth round pick i doubt he lived up to the expectatation of the ravens

 

 

Did you look at his stats? His production was fine when he was called on to play. And it wasn't like he had Johnny U throwing to him when he was here. His ypc average was comparable to when he played with Peyton. He knew how to run a route and he could make the tough catch. That's why indy brought him in to complement Wayne and Harrison.

[BMORElegacy]

Stokley never really accomplish much as a raven if you look at his stats   and he had trouble stayiing healthy . I dont beleive he was a bum (honestly i didnt watch him play i was little kid not into football as much   then) but numbers dont lie he really wasnt  that good here as a raven . He produce average numbers  and for a fourth round pick i doubt he lived up to the expectatation of the ravens

Don't make a statement like he didn't accomplish much if you didn't watch him. Stats don't tell the whole story. Anybody that watches Joe could tell you that. 

 

Stokley was a serviceable receiver in his first tenure with the Ravens and made an incredible TD grab in our first Super Bowl victory. He then went on to be one of Peyton's go-to targets on all of those pass oriented Colts teams. 

[billick]

Can Tandon Doss do it all.

 

Is that why he was cut ?  Maybe we were just stashing him.

 

We outsmarted everyone with our GFO, again.

[runamuk]

I think Doss is going to surprise us all . I watched his highlights from last year and he really did contribute he's not Torrey smith or jacoby jones even but he made some catches and even a good return.I hope he comes in and blows all of us away even if its just for returns .

[Ravenslifer]

Stokley never really accomplish much as a raven if you look at his stats   and he had trouble stayiing healthy . I dont beleive he was a bum (honestly i didnt watch him play i was little kid not into football as much   then) but numbers dont lie he really wasnt  that good here as a raven . He produce average numbers  and for a fourth round pick i doubt he lived up to the expectatation of the ravens

 

I don't need to look at his stats, I just look at his quarterbacks over the 4 years he was with us - Tony Banks, Stony Case, Scott Mitchell, Trent Dilfer, Elvis Grbac, Randall Cunningham, Jeff Blake, Chris Redman.

[Ravenslifer]

I think Doss is going to surprise us all . I watched his highlights from last year and he really did contribute he's not Torrey smith or jacoby jones even but he made some catches and even a good return.I hope he comes in and blows all of us away even if its just for returns .

 

I agree, he's not a bad player, he just had some serious mental/confidence issues, IMO.  Not to mention, if you go back and look at all the games he played last year in the regular season, he never got in the game unless Joe was really struggling.  It's hard for any WR to succeed if the QB isn't.

[runamuk]

I agree, he's not a bad player, he just had some serious mental/confidence issues, IMO.  Not to mention, if you go back and look at all the games he played last year in the regular season, he never got in the game unless Joe was really struggling.  It's hard for any WR to succeed if the QB isn't.

I agree I think after a couple catches string a couple of good plays together he can get that confidence back . he is big and fast I hope it works out for him

[Tank 92]

Don't make a statement like he didn't accomplish much if you didn't watch him. Stats don't tell the whole story. Anybody that watches Joe could tell you that. 

 

Stokley was a serviceable receiver in his first tenure with the Ravens and made an incredible TD grab in our first Super Bowl victory. He then went on to be one of Peyton's go-to targets on all of those pass oriented Colts teams. 

 

 

....and he caught the TD pass that broke the Great TD Drought of 2000   And he caught the first TD pass in SB 35!

[BMORElegacy]

....and he caught the TD pass that broke the Great TD Drought of 2000   And he caught the first TD pass in SB 35!

That was the reception I was referring to lol

[Tank 92]

That was the reception I was referring to lol

 

 

I know, my bad. I just went back and read your whole post. I got too stoked trying to defend Stokley. That was bad

[BMORElegacy]

I know, my bad. I just went back and read your whole post. I got too stoked trying to defend Stokley. That was bad

I feel like I'm on the defensive too. He will be great once we get his snap count down to a manageable number. That's why I'm optimistic about the Doss move. It will allow Stokley to stay fresher for when the game is on the line. 

[jazz1988]

Did you look at his stats? His production was fine when he was called on to play. And it wasn't like he had Johnny U throwing to him when he was here. His ypc average was comparable to when he played with Peyton. He knew how to run a route and he could make the tough catch. That's why indy brought him in to complement Wayne and Harrison.

 

I look at his stats they were average . His best  year as a ravens was  in 2002 when he had  300 + receving yards 2 touchdowns and 16 catches for a first down where he was targeted 52 times but only played in 8 games in most cases because he wasnt healthy enough to finish the rest of the season.

 

Stokley was serviceable but average at best for the ravens and i find it kinda strange that  a receiver needy team like the ravens didnt bring Stokley back  after 2002 which probably tells all.  Stokley  may had been reliable and etc but he had a injury prone career as raven which in most cases made him expendable or less needy to the ravens.

[jazz1988]

Don't make a statement like he didn't accomplish much if you didn't watch him. Stats don't tell the whole story. Anybody that watches Joe could tell you that. 

 

Stokley was a serviceable receiver in his first tenure with the Ravens and made an incredible TD grab in our first Super Bowl victory. He then went on to be one of Peyton's go-to targets on all of those pass oriented Colts teams. 

 

Quarterbacks are much different than a widereceiver when it comes to stats. Stokley was a average injury prone wideout when he was with the ravens;  He may had accomplish some cool things as raven like catching a important pass in the super bowl but at the end of the day he still was average  a wideout whom made spectacular catches here and there.  He had that one great year with the colts in 2004 then after that his receiving numbers went down as well as his touchdown.

[Tank 92]

I look at his stats they were average . His best  year as a ravens was  in 2002 when he had  300 + receving yards 2 touchdowns and 16 catches for a first down where he was targeted 52 times but only played in 8 games in most cases because he wasnt healthy enough to finish the rest of the season.

 

Stokley was serviceable but average at best for the ravens and i find it kinda strange that  a receiver needy team like the ravens didnt bring Stokley back  after 2002 which probably tells all.  Stokley  may had been reliable and etc but he had a injury prone career as raven which in most cases made him expendable or less needy to the ravens.

 

He was better than "serviceable" when here. He made some tough catches, and he made important clutch catches while taking some big hits. He's a small guy with a lot of heart, so yeah, he has been oft injured.

[Rav'n Maniac]

Doss is Boss!

[Rav'n Maniac]

Doss is Boss!

[Alexir]

12 more pages of Doss? This dude gets way more attention then he deserves. He's a 5th stringer who will return punts and kicks.

[PeRK82]

I am sooooooooooooooo Freaking happy that Doss is a RAVEN again.

 

All of our Problems are over now because now we have yet another Wr that is thrown to between the numbers and drops sure catches. ( Circa - 2013 COLTS play off game, three back to back to back throws that were dropped in the endzone )

 

Cant Wait.

 

 

If im proven Wrong, then Thank you Blue Eyed, Blond curly lock hair , white loin cloth baby Jesus.

 

If your not First then your Last.

[BMORElegacy]

Quarterbacks are much different than a widereceiver when it comes to stats. Stokley was a average injury prone wideout when he was with the ravens;  He may had accomplish some cool things as raven like catching a important pass in the super bowl but at the end of the day he still was average  a wideout whom made spectacular catches here and there.  He had that one great year with the colts in 2004 then after that his receiving numbers went down as well as his touchdown.

This sums up Boldin's tenure here in a nutshell. Boldin had average stats, so would you classify him as being an average wideout? I don't think so. 

[jazz1988]

This sums up Boldin's tenure here in a nutshell. Boldin had average stats, so would you classify him as being an average wideout? I don't think so. 

 

I dont think it sums up Boldin tenue here at all how can you compare Stokely stats as a raven  to Boldin stats as raven theres no comparison at all.  Im not saying Stokley is  a bum wideout or isnt good but he's  a average wideout/ solid  slot receiver is there something im missing here because i know darn  well he  isnt elite  or ever was in the past. When it  comes to rating receivers in my opinion  theres four levels which is below average, average, slightly higher than average and elite .

 

I believe Boldin was between Slightly higher than average and elite because he wasn't placed in  a offense that fit his strength at alll until Jim Caldwell came around but Stokley whom  is solid slot receiver  is my opinion is  average atleast as a ravens he was. Being  a average receiver doesnt mean you can't make clutch plays or  great plays in the super bowl ( Giants wideout David Tyree did it in the super bowl )

[ghost1986]

I know I said it before in the pre-season, but I hope Doss can do well. The guy has had some amazing catches. He just needs a little more confidence and consistency. He has ups which Stokley definitely doesn't, but he needs to prove his worth and as I've said earlier with other people, he takes pressure off of Webb and Pierce in the return game. That's really where I think he'll contribute.

[TonyTone1192]

why so much hate with tandon doss? i dont get it..

Because the #2 WR position was his to lose and not only did he lose it but he didn't even end up making the roster. The talent is there but he's lacking something

[Sami84]

green bay were not impressed by him. none of this is ideal but hey..desperate times