How the Ravens lost at Denver

[ravensdfan]

Joe was out there by himself. Period.

 

Once the Broncos defense realized that only Torrey & Marlon could manage to catch a ball, it was a feast on our O line & Flacco. We've got nothing for the middle of the field. Keeping Clark over Furst was a huge mistake. He had already shown he was over the hill and his hands were gone during the preseason.

 

Dickson never had hands and it's now apparent, he never will.

 

Stokely, same old song. Old washed up vet that we seem to think we needed on this team.

 

I'm not saying we dump all three but Clark definitely needs to go. Bring up Furst and give him a fair shot. He certainly can't be any worse.

 

As for Dickson & Stokely, IDK. I'd like to see what Melette can offer over Stokely. Can't Juice play TE? Give him a try. For crying out loud, try something. Don't leave Flacco out there floundering with these three stooges who couldn't catch if their life depended on it.

[ravensdfan]

TE malfunction hurt us incredibly. It was actually a mix of things, but you are trusted to catch a ball and hold on to it. Dallas Clark TD that never happened hurt us bad. Dickson dropping every single thing thrown at him....I mean, what the hell, clearly he's not reliable at all. I think the TEs not being trusted is big. Clark was wide open in the back of the end zone and Flacco chose a much harder throw to make for the score. That told me how much he trusted the TEs. Flaccos deep ball looked terrible too. Too many overthrows.

 

To be fair, I only saw one true overthrow and it was when for some unknown reason we sent Stokely deep. I figured maybe Joe wasn't aware just how slow he was.

[jimmypowder]

Well it certainly looks to me that not signing Ed Reed back was a mistake . Even a one armed , old, neck injured Ed is much better then anything we currently have . Not having Boldin hurts even more then I thought it would ,especially with Pitta out .

[redlobster]

Well it certainly looks to me that not signing Ed Reed back was a mistake . Even a one armed , old, neck injured Ed is much better then anything we currently have . Not having Boldin hurts even more then I thought it would ,especially with Pitta out .

 

 

Eh, I truely don't think Reed would have been that big of a difference, Manning ran the defense ragged with the no huddle and Clark couldn't catch a cold, Still not sure why Juice wasn't brought in to play, he is a solid receiver.

[CARavensFan]

What does it say when Leach was a more reliable pass catcher than either of our TEs? smh

[Jocaugust]

People can talk about what Peyton did, and I'm not trying to downplay his performance, but we truly... truly... TRULY beat ourselves. I understand Flacco just got his contract, but you mean to tell me...... Flacco drops back 62 times?!?!? Not 20... Not 30... Not even 40, but 62!?!??!?! No... no.. no... no..... NO. Ray Rice, a pro bowl running back... Arguably the best utility back in the lg... A 25-30 a game guy.. Only gets 12 carries, and for a moment... Bernard Pierce was getting more snaps!?!??! NO. We won't win games like this. We won't make the playoffs like this. Imma channel into my inner Stephen A.... No way that Bernard Pierce should be drastically cutting into Rice's PT... I mean, Pierce is a good back. He is, but no way... Ray only had 12 carries... Bernard had 9... We won't win with a 21-62 Run-Pass play selection. We were gassed the whole game on defense because we couldn't move the chains. Not being able to catch passes... No running game... No offense. Harbs def missed that incomplete pass, but I'm not gonna say that's the reason we lost when our play was sloppy and our play calling was lopsided. Our defense will get better. We won't look like this on D again, but we gotta cut down on the penalties. We gotta catch passes. We gotta RUN THE BALL.

 

 

All and all... I think we'll bounce back, and I think we'll see the emergence of Marlon Brown this season, but I also think we need one more guy in our receiving core if you're gonna try to pull a 62 attempt Flacco again...

[MrPlankton]

Mellette will most likely be activated, right?

[gabefergy]

ST was awful.

Secondary was atrocious.

More drops than I could count.

No running game at all.

[PurpleCityLights]

We lost because we dont have Lewis & Reed but hear me out.......We dont have that guy on this team on the D side of the ball who knows how to game plan against elite QB's anymore. Ray was slow but he knew how to put other LBers & MLBers in positions to make plays. Reed was Reed but at the Free Safety position he knew how to hunt the QB, THEY knew how to hunt the QB. so with oit them or people like them on this team elite QBs are going to have a field day with us.

[shiri2]

Communication is really the only thing that would've been different. I don't think it would've made a huge difference because we couldn't do anything on offense and Peyton wasn't human tonight. He's also alway owned us in the regular season.

 

 

On the defensive side of the ball, there were no "miscommunications," according to Sizzle.  Although I think something was going on back there, cause there were too many Denver receivers wide open on too many plays, and they were getting a lot of YAC.  After they catch it, you'd see one of our guys chasing him down the field before finally mis-tackling him (Ihedigbo, Huff, Smith)!

[Gordo52]

On the defensive side of the ball, there were no "miscommunications," according to Sizzle. Although I think something was going on back there, cause there were too many Denver receivers wide open on too many plays, and they were getting a lot of YAC. After they catch it, you'd see one of our guys chasing him down the field before finally mis-tackling him (Ihedigbo, Huff, Smith)!

Or Welker's 2nd TD where Webb and I think Graham totally didn't cover him

[shiri2]

Mellette will most likely be activated, right?

...when Jacoby went down we should've ran a 3-receiver set featuring Torrey, Aaron Mellette, and Marlon Brown.  All 3 of those dudes are fast and have good hands.  They wouldnt've been able to keep all of them covered...at least not for long.  Or I don't understand why Joe didn't go more to Marlon Brown (14) once he saw they were connecting.  They seem to already have the chemistry, same is true for Mellette.

 

Dickson needs to be canned!  I'm tired of seeing him drop balls.  when the ball is thrown to him, it's like a crap shoot...you don't know whether he's gonna hold on to it or not.  this is his 3rd year with us and he's still dropping passes just like when he first arrived.  he's not a reliable receiver, and he's by no stretch of the imagination,  "clutch." 

[PeRK82]

Love how people say we should run it more. Yes because running on 1st and 2nd with neg yards and then an obvious pass was really helping us when we needed it the most.  So we are working for 1 down on a few drives.

 

I was wondering why we were trying to run it when we were killing them with passing it in the end of the first and beginning of the second, their Defense was gassed and we let them off the hook.  Manning saw the samething with our D from just throwing, so whats he do, he continues to throw it. And we all know the outcome from that.

[wayne]

TE's to me was why we lost the game. Yea, they were taking some shots but we need them to hold on to the ball to get first downs to continue the drive. TE's

[ratedr]

TE's to me was why we lost the game. Yea, they were taking some shots but we need them to hold on to the ball to get first downs to continue the drive. TE's

Agreed completely.

[FlackAttack]

What I saw last night was Post Season Joe 100%. It was a 120 million dollar man lodging balls left and right to recievers he knew could make plays.. but unfortunately that wasn't the case. What I observed was a giant dollar sign flinging an object to a bunch of coins shattering amongst the field, much like old school NES video games. We spent all of this $$ on our man, but supply him with incompetent weapons. Our season will continue this trend unless our amateur recievers step up with the big dollar signs.

[gsam]

What I saw last night was Post Season Joe 100%. It was a 120 million dollar man lodging balls left and right to recievers he knew could make plays.. but unfortunately that wasn't the case. What I observed was a giant dollar sign flinging an object to a bunch of coins shattering amongst the field, much like old school NES video games. We spent all of this $$ on our man, but supply him with incompetent weapons. Our season will continue this trend unless our amateur recievers step up with the big dollar signs.

 

This was actually my thought as well.

 

You traded one of your reliable weapons and lost the next most reliable. Torrey Smith IMHO is not the guy you go to when you need a 1st down. That should have been AB (traded), DP (hurt), or ED (cant catch), DC (cant catch).

 

This may be a rough year offensively.  I would not let it get you down though.  The D got young overnight and you are going to get the young guys plenty of looks on O that could help you determine what you have in these guys for the long term.

[757RavensFan]

...when Jacoby went down we should've ran a 3-receiver set featuring Torrey, Aaron Mellette, and Marlon Brown. All 3 of those dudes are fast and have good hands. They wouldnt've been able to keep all of them covered...at least not for long. Or I don't understand why Joe didn't go more to Marlon Brown (14) once he saw they were connecting. They seem to already have the chemistry, same is true for Mellette.

Dickson needs to be canned! I'm tired of seeing him drop balls. when the ball is thrown to him, it's like a crap shoot...you don't know whether he's gonna hold on to it or not. this is his 3rd year with us and he's still dropping passes just like when he first arrived. he's not a reliable receiver, and he's by no stretch of the imagination, "clutch."

Mellette was inactive last night.

[MrPlankton]

Mellette was inactive last night.

 

Are they going to activate him any time soon because as far as I'm concerned Stokley cannot be playing every single down.

[Ravenglenn]

This from Twitter

 

https://twitter.com/Dixon_RC/status/375937830679498752

[Purple Punishment]

What I saw last night was Post Season Joe 100%. It was a 120 million dollar man lodging balls left and right to recievers he knew could make plays.. but unfortunately that wasn't the case. What I observed was a giant dollar sign flinging an object to a bunch of coins shattering amongst the field, much like old school NES video games. We spent all of this $$ on our man, but supply him with incompetent weapons. Our season will continue this trend unless our amateur recievers step up with the big dollar signs.

This is the most terrible first post I have ever read. Flacco costs 6M this year. Yea we could have put the farm on a more than capable receiver. I think we need a capable TE more though. Flacco looked good but he shouldn't have to drop back over 60 times EVER! Our run game was terrible. When the defense doesn't have to play honest, they will win every time.....unless you are Peyton Manning or Adrian Peterson.......or Bo Jackson on Tecmo Bowl lol

[Ravensfanspls]

It doesn't take a expert to know why we lost the game and all the people who say it was one thing or one play or player is just plain wrong. it wasn't one thing or two or three. We looked very rusty and most defiantly did not look like a veteran team. I really don't feel like typing 3 paragraphs so i will leave it at that.

[Worthy]

With the shortage of receivers, we better start looking at using both Rice and Pierce on the field together -- with Rice split out.  Also let's see if Juice can handle catching passes in the slot to move the chains.  With so few receivers activated after Jacoby went down -- we can't run a no huddle offense with Stokley and Clark.  You have to recognize they are still decent to a degree -- but you HAVE to limit their snaps!  They aren't 25 any more!

 

You have to rotate Mellette, Brown and Torrey on the outside (and Thompson when he's recovered). 

 

Realize that Stokley, Clark shouldn't be on the field at the same time but should alternate along with Juice in the slot.

 

Bring up Frustenburg.  Utilize Dickson as your blocking TE instead of Bajema. 

 

If we're going to play up tempo no huddle -- then it's dependent on moving the chains! 

 

In this game -- the first half we controlled the clock almost 2 to 1.  The second half -- the 3 and outs killed our defense against Manning's no huddle!

 

The TD's given up -- the 1st TD, Manning got was due to a Flacco pick and only drove 20 yards.

 

If we don't turn the ball over in the 1st half.  We very well may have been up 17-0 -- if not 21-0 due to a Clark drop!

 

The 2nd TD given up -- could have been prevented with a challenge flag.

 

The 3rd TD given up -- was due to a blocked punt.

 

We didn't have an answer for the Broncos Julias Thomas -- so we better figure out who in our secondary is going to match up against TE's -- especially Cincy since they have 2 solid ones!

 

Just some thoughts thrown out there...